Longtime fan Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, Longtime fan said: Everyone is complaining but not acknowledging injuries....then what is it! Same coaches , same schemes .....then what is it? 4,5,6,7 injuries yes.....but UND is decimated. Can anyone explain Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Just now, Longtime fan said: You add Connor, Elijah, Poole , Gordon to that list ....yeah not the reason apparently i know i know but if i asked u if we played 22 backups would we lose to cal davis 80-21? no. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, Longtime fan said: You add Connor, Elijah, Poole , Gordon to that list ....yeah not the reason apparently And I hate what I'm seeing here too, but lets get off the ledge here people. Calling for the whole staff to go is nuts. With the young OLine we are running all over these guys. DLine needs to get to the QB who hasn't been touched yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F'n Hawks Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 You can complain about the play calling all you want(I can understand why) but the offense looked good in the first half considering how beat up the o line is. That fumble really killed us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, shep said: But all these guys will have been with the program for a year and ostensibly bigger and smarter. BIG difference in a year. They should not even be dressing yet. The injury situation is unfortunate, but these 2nd and 3rd string players aren't all true freshmen. Also, UND was picked to win the conference; a bunch of injuries shouldnt turn UND into a doormat! Maybe they should be less competitive, but they shouldn't turn into the bottom feeder of the Big Sky Comference. Bubba and his staff have shown deficiencies, now, in recruiting quality depth and adjusting on the fly when unexpected changes hit. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: i know i know but if i asked u if we played 22 backups would we lose to cal davis 80-21? no. I've long thought that losing Randolph was huge too, but imagine Harris taking care of Doss. Who do they go to? We have Reyes back there too and Randolph but NOT Blubaugh, Rastas and the other RS's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: The injury situation is unfortunate, but these 2nd and 3rd string players aren't all true freshmen. Also, UND was picked to win the conference; a bunch of injuries shouldnt turn UND into a doormat! Maybe they should be less competitive, but they shouldn't turn into the bottom feeder of the Big Sky Comference. Bubba and his staff have shown deficiencies, now, in recruiting quality depth and adjusting on the fly when unexpected changes hit. But we are now 3 and 4 deep on the depth chart. How many coaches could foresee that? Plus Harris and Reyes are virtually irreplaceable, they thought they had good depth at LB before Connor went down and the others and frankly, the depth at OLine is looking good today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtime fan Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: So we're basically seeing a sneak peak of the 2018 UND defense. If not this season, we would've been very disappointed next season. The depth of this program is not good; Bubba and his staff have messed up. Barring injuries UNDs d next year will be bad ass mason- stud Donnell-stud deion-stud tank-stud tamss- almost stud cieslak- almost noah- stud- almost torrey- right there beng. a stud Andre- really like this guy/ could be a stud Jace- three year stater tanner- Sen- replaced by haas? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 2 minutes ago, shep said: But we are now 3 and 4 deep on the depth chart. How many coaches could foresee that? Plus Harris and Reyes are virtually irreplaceable, they thought they had good depth at LB before Connor went down and the others and frankly, the depth at OLine is looking good today. u have to remember....cal-davis is a bad bad team...i think we forget that sometimes when we beat up on crappy teams we pump our chests...cal-davis is a bad team that shouldn't be taking a banged up und team to the woodshed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Why can't we blitz with these young players? Serious question. Normally this regime blitzes 70% of the time. Tonight I've seen maybe two. Whether the talent or knowledge is there or not, stay true to the philosophy right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn flick Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 BTW I really appreciate the plays and stats popping up so quickly. Nice to see the Downs and Yardage. I feel the announcers are fair also. The only thing wrong is that they can't fudge the score. That's all we have left is fudge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtime fan Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 9 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: i know i know but if i asked u if we played 22 backups would we lose to cal davis 80-21? no. Nice. Explain why they are what they are then. Does a massive amount of injuries play into it? Let us know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 and there is still enough quality players on the offense to where we should be grinding out six or 7 or eight minute drives for GOD DAMN TD"s to give these youngs a break...and to top it off taubs kicks the kickoffs out of bounds and gives them a short field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 1 minute ago, shep said: But we are now 3 and 4 deep on the depth chart. How many coaches could foresee that? Plus Harris and Reyes are virtually irreplaceable, they thought they had good depth at LB before Connor went down and the others and frankly, the depth at OLine is looking good today. Your stance is that UND would've been fine in 2018 because Rastas, Blubaugh, etc. would've miraculously improved with another year of prep? Yeah, they would've been more physically prepared, but the intangibles are what they are. We are seeing a preview of what the future holds. UND needs to have a level of fight and determination that doesn't allow this kind of collapse to occur, especially just following a conference championship season. The culture of this team is not adequate. What happened from last season to this season goes beyond injuries. After four recruiting classes, UND and Bubba need to have some depth that prevents this level of embarrassment and implosion from happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Tom Miller on Twitter says we could rush for 500 yards and lose. Yes, but I will take the positive side of that. Freshman OLiners are holding their own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 this game aint over either...make some adjustments and damnit rudy let's do some stuff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 1 minute ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Your stance is that UND would've been fine in 2018 because Rastas, Blubaugh, etc. would've miraculously improved with another year of prep? Yeah, they would've been more physically prepared, but the intangibles are what they are. We are seeing a preview of what the future holds. UND needs to have a level of fight and determination that doesn't allow this kind of collapse to occur, especially just following a conference championship season. The culture of this team is not adequate. What happened from last season to this season goes beyond injuries. After four recruiting classes, UND and Bubba need to have some depth that prevents this level of embarrassment and implosion from happening. My stance is that maybe they wouldn't have been ready next year either. And maybe without injuries, they wouldn't need to be. My stance is they ARE NOT READY THIS YEAR, and the coaching staff recruited them knowing that. This is all hands on deck time now and at least they are smart enough NOT to pull Larson's RS so he can be a part of the Championship teams in the next few years. But I see hope here for next year. Today, for this season, I have no hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtime fan Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 I have not heard one reason why UND. Is what they are. I say injuries onD and a complete fool calling plays on offense. Can anyone tell me why that isn't the case ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 So if injuries really are the problem, is there a way to reduce that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fry Bread Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Other than the fumble I think the offense had a good first half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 3 minutes ago, Longtime fan said: I have not heard one reason why UND. Is what they are. I say injuries onD and a complete fool calling plays on offense. Can anyone tell me why that isn't the case ? Great call to pass to Adeoti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Longtime fan said: Barring injuries UNDs d next year will be bad ass mason- stud Donnell-stud deion-stud tank-stud tamss- almost stud cieslak- almost noah- stud- almost torrey- right there beng. a stud Andre- really like this guy/ could be a stud Jace- three year stater tanner- Sen- replaced by haas? Half of those players are on the field right now and this defense is no where near "stud". I sure hope everything works out, but injuries shouldn't turn a team from #1 in the conference to a doormat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtime fan Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 UNDs offense has gained 260 total yards once this year. Going against the likea of SD, mont st and now Davis i can see why they are having issues offensively??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 we run 99 percent of the time on second down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueSioux2000 Posted October 1, 2017 Share Posted October 1, 2017 Perhaps it's more than just one issue with UND? Key injuries, sometimes questionable play calling, and perhaps just a team that was over-hyped in the preseason. It's a shame. But being a fan of Syracuse for my entire life I've learned to just expect the worst when it comes to football. So oh well. Time to move on to Hockey, and basketball seasons! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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