UND1983 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 What are they seeking? If it's a money grab what can they say they lost out on...tuition? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, UND1983 said: What are they seeking? If it's a money grab what can they say they lost out on...tuition? re-instatement of the program. How they can do that by this idk... the OCR report should make this an open and shut case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Think their lawyer is confused. Keeps mentioning UND but he is suing the NDUS. I hope the NDUS drags it out and runs up the bill on them. Be interesting to hear who is footing the lawyer fees if they lose. Hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Sue the NDUS and I do believe their attorney is the right and honorable Attorney General of the great State of North Dakota. You're suin' the State kids. Not sure you'll enjoy what follows. Next, the OCR report and findings sure don't lend any help to the complainants. I wouldn't be surprised if the NDUS just appeared before a court and presented the findings of the body with jurisdiction on Title IX (OCR) and said this complaint is baseless and should be tossed on lack of merit. Mr. Seigel hopes for quick resolution; me-thinks he'll get his wish at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 PS - Anyone still wonder why that big-time Title IX firm was hired and brought in to oversee UND's moves during the dropping of baseball, M/W S&D and women's hockey? Their actions and groundwork made OCR disappear in minimal time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Can't believe Rice would be party to this. How many lawsuits can she handle at a single time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 How can they force a school who had to cut their budget thanks to the governor and former governor to reinstate a program that loses 2 million dollars a year? And why women’s hockey? Why isn’t wrestling, baseball, and swimming getting reinstated too? The program is gone and buried get over it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 19 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Think their lawyer is confused. Keeps mentioning UND but he is suing the NDUS. I hope the NDUS drags it out and runs up the bill on them. Be interesting to hear who is footing the lawyer fees if they lose. Hmmm. Rice is who I’d guess, she did sue her dad and the state of Minnesota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Can't believe Rice would be party to this. How many lawsuits can she handle at a single time? I’m really not surprised she’s part of the lawsuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 If their goal is to reinstate the program, they are suing the NDUS and their basis is failure to determine the athletic interests and abilities of women students and women athletes, then their lawyer needs to quit mentioning UND since that isn't the prong they use to remain compliant (which they are per the OCR report), it's the other D1 school in the state. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Just now, cberkas said: I’m really not surprised she’s part of the lawsuit. Haha not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 I hope they win. We're a hockey school. It should never have been cut. To me, that ends my argument. Bring it back. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, jdub27 said: If their goal is to reinstate the program, they are suing the NDUS and their basis is failure to determine the athletic interests and abilities of women students and women athletes, then their lawyer needs to quit mentioning UND since that isn't the prong they use to remain compliant (which they are per the OCR report), it's the other D1 school in the state. The updated article says they want the school to reinstate the program and then have the school pay the legal costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 NDSU can start a women’s program at the same cost as s Bemdiji St. UND could do but they’d have to use Gambucci or something smaller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Dont see any way this goes anywhere, I think UND should be fielding a womens Hockey team, this is not how it ever gets done again. They really want results, start fundraising to endow a program. This lawsuit has zero chance of winning or garnering public support. I see it more as a FU at the admin that cut the program. I see no positive at all in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, jdub27 said: If their goal is to reinstate the program, they are suing the NDUS and their basis is failure to determine the athletic interests and abilities of women students and women athletes, then their lawyer needs to quit mentioning UND since that isn't the prong they use to remain compliant (which they are per the OCR report), it's the other D1 school in the state. You have to wonder if that phasing and targeting the whole NDUS is making some around the state cringe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Schloss updated the article again... "That will not affect our suit at all,” Siegel said. “The OCR complaints were based on different facts and different legal theories. They didn’t pass on the particular claims that we’re making in our case.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 17 minutes ago, Hayduke said: I hope they win. We're a hockey school. It should never have been cut. To me, that ends my argument. Bring it back. And we weren’t a hockey school prior to 2002? 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 The article has also been updated to include the former Olympians. I wish I was making that up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Schloss updated the article again... "That will not affect our suit at all,” Siegel said. “The OCR complaints were based on different facts and different legal theories. They didn’t pass on the particular claims that we’re making in our case.” He should have waited to have all his information then wrote the article. Not update it every 5 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UNDBIZ Posted June 13, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, cberkas said: He should have waited to have all his information then wrote the article. Not update it every 5 minutes. He was too excited.... As jdub pointed out, he almost forgot to mention all the Olympians! No mention of program cost again though.... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Just now, UNDBIZ said: He was too excited.... As jdub pointed out, he almost forgot to mention all the Olympians! No mention of program cost again though.... "It was a spooky ghost" - Randy Marsh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Girls high school hockey is growing, it's not going away. Over 50% of UND students are female. http://www.dailyherald.com/news/20171202/girls-are-flocking-to-ice-hockey-across-illinois-and-the-nation We're a hockey school. Kennedy better step it up. Again, I hope they win. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 hour ago, UND1983 said: What are they seeking? If it's a money grab what can they say they lost out on...tuition? Lucrative professional womens hockey deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hayduke said: Girls high school hockey is growing, it's not going away. Over 50% of UND students are female. http://www.dailyherald.com/news/20171202/girls-are-flocking-to-ice-hockey-across-illinois-and-the-nation We're a hockey school. Kennedy better step it up. Again, I hope they win. But not growing enough for Central and Red River to field separate teams. So if they reinstate the program how many of the people on social media screaming to reinstate it are going to pay a ticket (provided it’s no longer free admission) and show up. Hopefully more than the 200 that found their way to a playoff game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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