Sioux>Bison Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 6 hours ago, stoneySIOUX said: I agree with all of this, especially the bolded part. UND is good at hockey, a niche sport, and NDSU is good at FCS football, a niche sport, but with broader appeal. Nothing to really get our knickers in a twist about. What happens then if NDSU moves to the FBS? We then are the only niche team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 38 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said: To be fair they will finally play a good opponent the next time as in EWU and will probably sell 40.000 to the game at US Bank Stadium. Most of their games are a yawn fest can we fill a hockey rink with 40k? don't put EASTERN Washington in the same sentence as Pennsylvania State or Arizona State..... don't compare non football attendance to football attendance...it doesn't work that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said: What happens then if NDSU moves to the FBS? We then are the only niche team? They become less niche, but I think they barely get recognized once they stop winning titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 10 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said: To be fair they will finally play a good opponent the next time as in EWU and will probably sell 40.000 to the game at US Bank Stadium. Most of their games are a yawn fest can we fill a hockey rink with 40k? NDSU/EWU novelty game (meaning unique site) will get 40k. (NDSU/UND would probably get more.) No traditional rink is built for 40k, but can a novelty college hockey game get 40k? Ah-yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 11 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said: To be fair they will finally play a good opponent the next time as in EWU and will probably sell 40.000 to the game at US Bank Stadium. Most of their games are a yawn fest can we fill a hockey rink with 40k? Absolutely, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 46 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: NDSU/EWU novelty game (meaning unique site) will get 40k. (NDSU/UND would probably get more.) No traditional rink is built for 40k, but can a novelty college hockey game get 40k? Ah-yup. Did we sell out MSG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: Absolutely, yes. Did we sell out Tampa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 11 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: don't put EASTERN Washington in the same sentence as Pennsylvania State or Arizona State..... don't compare non football attendance to football attendance...it doesn't work that way. I thought niche was niche….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said: Did we sell out MSG? You mean UND@BC? MSG was 2/3 full. BOS to NYC: 215 miles GFK to NYC: 1512 miles I'd put that open seating onto BC by about 1300 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said: Did we sell out Tampa? 19358 into Amelie. And you sound even more like an NDSU fan today. Maybe take a look at how Bison fans view enthusiasm for their program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said: Did we sell out Tampa? Did we sell out the national championship? What an odd question. What are you trying to achieve here? Could UND fill an outdoor arena with Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc.? I absolutely think so. If you don't, so be it. What a silly argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: Did we sell out the national championship? What an odd question. What are you trying to achieve here? Could UND fill an outdoor arena with Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc.? I absolutely think so. If you don't, so be it. What a silly argument. Did we fill the Stadium for our outdoor game? Or do we need a Michigan or Minnesota to help us? you guys just said we could sell 40k , I’m just doubting that without some proof….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: You mean UND@BC? MSG was 2/3 full. BOS to NYC: 215 miles GFK to NYC: 1512 miles I'd put that open seating onto BC by about 1300 miles. Oh so we could have sold it out if it was in MN? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 You're right. We can't. Moving on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: 19358 into Amelie. And you sound even more like an NDSU fan today. Maybe take a look at how Bison fans view enthusiasm for their program. No one I guess I’m the only one who doesn’t think we can put all of our into hockey and still fall behind the other school. We need to compete in football otherwise we will always be their lil brother. Hockey only fans are a disgrace to UND! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said: Hockey only fans are a disgrace to UND! Yeah, how DARE they like only hockey. What a strange hill to die on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: Yeah, how DARE they like only hockey. What a strange hill to die on. I’m a fan of UND first and foremost. That includes all teams. Hockey only mentality will leave UND athletics and the university as a whole in the dust! do you want to be the U Montana of Montana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Sioux>Bison said: I’m a fan of UND first and foremost. That includes all teams. Hockey only mentality will leave UND athletics and the university as a whole in the dust! do you want to be the U Montana of Montana? I just just know what to tell you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightingSU Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 9:02 AM, Sioux>Bison said: Went to the new Scheels store in Minot and the NDSU clothes outnumbered UND clothes 4-1. What the heck is going on at UND to let themselves become second fiddle to the ag school!?!?!? Is it the crappy logo that no one wants to buy? Is the state no longer a big fan of UND teams compare to NDSU? Either way this doesn’t look for UND! People do not buy clothes or accessories with the Hawk logo. They just don't. Some do. But it just isn't desirable among most fans. Sales are down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Just now, FightingSU said: People do not buy clothes or accessories with the Hawk logo. They just don't. Some do. But it just isn't desirable among most fans. Sales are down. Beat NDSU in FB or hang a hockey banner and it'll change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightingSU Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Beat NDSU in FB or hang a hockey banner and it'll change. One of these needs to happen. 2016 gets further and further in the rear view mirror here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, FightingSU said: People do not buy clothes or accessories with the Hawk logo. They just don't. Some do. But it just isn't desirable among most fans. Sales are down. Go to any other UND sporting event other than hockey and you will be proven wrong. I am a fan of UND. Have been for decades. I have Fighting Hawks sweatshirts, t shirts, quarterzips, hats, etc. Same applies for thousands of UND fans. "Most" is a pretty agressive (and vague) number. There is plenty of Fighting HAwks gear around. Attend a game outside the Ralph and you will see that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, FightingSU said: People do not buy clothes or accessories with the Hawk logo. It's been here since June 2016. A refresh, or another interpretation, would be good. Something that works more than a hockey shoulder patch, FB helmet, or flag, because as was said then, this logo feels more "secondary" than primary. But it works for now given how it came into the world and what it had to work with. I have no issues with the font and wordmarks. https://campus.und.edu/brand/_files/images/logos/logosystem-mascotposes-2022-600x400.jpg https://campus.und.edu/brand/_files/images/logos/logosystem-mascotclearzone-2022-600x400.jpg https://campus.und.edu/brand/_files/images/logos/logosystem-athleticmark-2022-600x300.jpg https://campus.und.edu/brand/_files/images/logos/logosystem-athleticwordmark-2022-600x150.jpg https://campus.und.edu/brand/_files/images/logos/logosystem-athleticlockup-2022-600x300.jpg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightingSU Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: It's been here since June 2016. A refresh, or another interpretation, would be good. Something that works more than a hockey shoulder patch, FB helmet, or flag, because as was said then, this logo feels more "secondary" than primary. But it works for now given how it came into the world and what it had to work with. I have no issues with the font and wordmarks. https://campus.und.edu/brand/_files/images/logos/logosystem-mascotposes-2022-600x400.jpg https://campus.und.edu/brand/_files/images/logos/logosystem-mascotclearzone-2022-600x400.jpg https://campus.und.edu/brand/_files/images/logos/logosystem-athleticmark-2022-600x300.jpg https://campus.und.edu/brand/_files/images/logos/logosystem-athleticwordmark-2022-600x150.jpg https://campus.und.edu/brand/_files/images/logos/logosystem-athleticlockup-2022-600x300.jpg Agree here 100%. Font is cool - its just a secondary logo and its ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightingSU Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: It's been here since June 2016. A refresh, or another interpretation, would be good. Something that works more than a hockey shoulder patch, FB helmet, or flag, because as was said then, this logo feels more "secondary" than primary. But it works for now given how it came into the world and what it had to work with. I have no issues with the font and wordmarks. https://campus.und.edu/brand/_files/images/logos/logosystem-mascotposes-2022-600x400.jpg https://campus.und.edu/brand/_files/images/logos/logosystem-mascotclearzone-2022-600x400.jpg https://campus.und.edu/brand/_files/images/logos/logosystem-athleticmark-2022-600x300.jpg https://campus.und.edu/brand/_files/images/logos/logosystem-athleticwordmark-2022-600x150.jpg https://campus.und.edu/brand/_files/images/logos/logosystem-athleticlockup-2022-600x300.jpg Its also just the fact we had to give up one of the best logos ever. Its like a slap in the face. We went from the best to worst literally, so the contrast is just huge and hard to stomach as a die hard haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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