The Sicatoka Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Messing with not one but two moderators. A little early to be that deep in the bottle, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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UNDBIZ Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 1 hour ago, moser53 said: Your the terminator not gong to mess with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moser53 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 News bulletin Building explosion at NDSU Grand Forks County Treasurer just sent bill. For 483.62 Pay to the order of NDSU Foundation is who to make out to. Please overnite. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cberkas Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 11 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: UND blew up a building for NDSU and charged them $483.62. That's what I got out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 5 minutes ago, cberkas said: UND blew up a building for NDSU and charged them $483.62. That's what I got out of it. Payable to the moo u foundation apparently. We'd double their endowment overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisUND1 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moser53 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 20 minutes ago, cberkas said: UND blew up a building for NDSU and charged them $483.62. That's what I got out of it. I get the feeling you would not trust the Democrates with all the Legacy Fund Cash. You would be asking where is all the $. But you trust these guys. if that's wrong sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 16 minutes ago, moser53 said: I get the feeling you would not trust the Democrates with all the Legacy Fund Cash. You would be asking where is all the $. But you trust these guys. if that's wrong sorry. I have no idea what you are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moser53 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Yes you do. I see things differently than most on this board and it frustrates me. I think we're getting downsized so others can supersize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Everyone's funding was cut. Kelley was a terrible president who put UND in a terrible position and now we're paying for it. We'll get through and come out stronger positioned in the long run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 2 hours ago, moser53 said: Building explosion at NDSU Well I think it was more of a structural issue due to poor engineering work done prior to excavation that an explosion. You must have it confused with Dunbar Hall, which supposedly could possibly explode at any time due to the huge amount of deferred maintance that was caused by funds being direct elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 2 hours ago, moser53 said: News bulletin Building explosion at NDSU Grand Forks County Treasurer just sent bill. For 483.62 Pay to the order of NDSU Foundation is who to make out to. Please overnite. Thanks 1 hour ago, moser53 said: I get the feeling you would not trust the Democrates with all the Legacy Fund Cash. You would be asking where is all the $. But you trust these guys. if that's wrong sorry. 1 hour ago, cberkas said: I have no idea what you are talking about. 20 minutes ago, moser53 said: Yes you do. I see things differently than most on this board and it frustrates me. I think we're getting downsized so others can supersize. Please try this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moser53 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 34 minutes ago, nodak651 said: Please try this: I'll keep trying untill you see the light. Should be great game at South Dakota . i was there last tine we played there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 46 minutes ago, moser53 said: I'll keep trying untill you see the light. Should be great game at South Dakota . i was there last tine we played there. Please explain what the light is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 2 hours ago, jdub27 said: Well I think it was more of a structural issue due to poor engineering work done prior to excavation that an explosion. You must have it confused with Dunbar Hall, which supposedly could possibly explode at any time due to the huge amount of deferred maintance that was caused by funds being direct elsewhere. Save Big Money at Minard!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moser53 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 7 hours ago, Siouxphan27 said: Save Big Money at Minard!!! All the things UND supporters have bragged about higher enrollment ,nicer -prettier campus , The Flagship U, have been heard in Fargo for decades. iIt's all changing. When are we going to see a new medical and law school in Fargo-Jamestown College. School of Science -Fargo. There is a well thought out plan in Fargo and you can see it taking shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 20 minutes ago, moser53 said: All the things UND supporters have bragged about higher enrollment ,nicer -prettier campus , The Flagship U, have been heard in Fargo for decades. iIt's all changing. When are we going to see a new medical and law school in Fargo-Jamestown College. School of Science -Fargo. There is a well thought out plan in Fargo and you can see it taking shape. Jamestown is a private school. Not state funded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 10 hours ago, nodak651 said: Please try this: I usually make hamburgers the other way--because, you know, gravity--but nice illustration nonetheless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 11 hours ago, UNDBIZ said: Everyone's funding was cut. Kelley was a terrible president who put UND in a terrible position and now we're paying for it. We'll get through and come out stronger positioned in the long run. How about this...either give specifics about why you think Kelley was "terrible," or take the high road and say that he was an honorable man whose tenure was marked by several years of unimaginable prosperity and largesse in the state followed by an abrupt--if entirely foreseeable--economic reversal, and that we all must concede there is no blueprint for success under those circumstances. If you're going to measure his legacy by finances alone (which seems unfortunate), I hope you'd be prepared to discuss specific expenditures and missed savings opportunities and their direct, causative effect on UND's current situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moser53 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 45 minutes ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said: How about this...either give specifics about why you think Kelley was "terrible," or take the high road and say that he was an honorable man whose tenure was marked by several years of unimaginable prosperity and largesse in the state followed by an abrupt--if entirely foreseeable--economic reversal, and that we all must concede there is no blueprint for success under those circumstances. If you're going to measure his legacy by finances alone (which seems unfortunate), I hope you'd be prepared to discuss specific expenditures and missed savings opportunities and their direct, causative effect on UND's current situation. I saw it. Bad intentions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bang Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 hour ago, NoiseInsideMyHead said: How about this...either give specifics about why you think Kelley was "terrible," or take the high road and say that he was an honorable man whose tenure was marked by several years of unimaginable prosperity and largesse in the state followed by an abrupt--if entirely foreseeable--economic reversal, and that we all must concede there is no blueprint for success under those circumstances. If you're going to measure his legacy by finances alone (which seems unfortunate), I hope you'd be prepared to discuss specific expenditures and missed savings opportunities and their direct, causative effect on UND's current situation. If I could interject here and put my two cents in. To me the financials aside his leadership was ONE of things I thought he lacked. Allowing departments to run amuck with no direction. Case in point would be the whole EERC debacle. He sudpends/fires a guy by email while having the cops escort him out after giving a positive review of the guy just months before. I'm not saying the guy shouldn't have been fired cause it looked like the guy had been a problem for awhile. Kelley put his head in the sand until the situation got out of hand and then still didn't take a hands on approach. He had other people do his dirty work while he hid in the background. The ability to deal with and manage difficult personalities is something great leaders possess. Kelley greatly lacked in this department. That's just one reason I didn't like Kelley. Not saying he's not a good person, just not a great leader. I'm sure UNDBIZ has some other specific reasons as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moser53 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 46 minutes ago, bang said: If I could interject here and put my two cents in. To me the financials aside his leadership was ONE of things I thought he lacked. Allowing departments to run amuck with no direction. Case in point would be the whole EERC debacle. He sudpends/fires a guy by email while having the cops escort him out after giving a positive review of the guy just months before. I'm not saying the guy shouldn't have been fired cause it looked like the guy had been a problem for awhile. Kelley put his head in the sand until the situation got out of hand and then still didn't take a hands on approach. He had other people do his dirty work while he hid in the background. The ability to deal with and manage difficult personalities is something great leaders possess. Kelley greatly lacked in this department. That's just one reason I didn't like Kelley. Not saying he's not a good person, just not a great leader. I'm sure UNDBIZ has some other specific reasons as well. Gerald Groenwald was politlely asked to take EERC to Bisnarck. He politlely declined. Fate sealed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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