CBS ranks UND 328th in preseason poll

[hoops44]

328. North Dakota: We can't in good conscience rank a team without a nickname highly. Especially in a league that looks relatively deep this year.  351  teams rated.

[darell1976]

Preseason polls basically go off of last year's record especially those that know nothing about schools that aren't a "major". After what this team did in Europe I think they will be better this year.

[UNDhoops]

too low, but i can't blame them for not really caring or trying

[Sioux Fanatic]

The team needs to win some games. Would be great to get a couple wins early so people will show up at the games and give some support. Otherwise it will be a tough year.

 

[sioux24/7]

I have mixed feelings about the year. I obviously want us to succeed but part of me wants us to struggle so we can get a new staff in here. Is that bad of me? I just feel it will be better for us in the long run. 

[bincitysioux]

I'm not surprised.  We were horrible last year.  The results of the EuroTrip were nice and I hear a lot of hype about some of the additions, but until I see them play a few games, I'm not overly optimistic.

[dakotadan]

The eternal optimistic fan in me wants the team to tear it up this season and go on a crazy run. BUT, the fan in me also feels like this \/  

I have mixed feelings about the year. I obviously want us to succeed but part of me wants us to struggle so we can get a new staff in here. Is that bad of me? I just feel it will be better for us in the long run. 

But I guess if the team does do great this year my view of the coaching staff will likely change (some). I just hope that even if the team does do well this season that Faison doesn't do his typical automatic contract extension. Hopefully he has learned his lesson after Mussman and holds off with the extensions. 

[CMSioux]

100% meaningless as we all know - I'm not expecting miracle on the hardwood but you have to like the talented youth on this team. That youth probably means we will be faced with another year where the primary focus for some will be playing AD and trashing the staff. 

Edited October 14, 2015 by CMSioux

[Oxbow6]

328 out of 351.........sounds about right to me.

[jdub27]

To be expected with what UND has returning for production but I'll take them finishing much better than that with zero hesitation. 

Q is a conference POY candidate. Baldwin and especially Bernstine seem ready to step in and fill the points that graduated/left. Shanks and Cashman have another year under their belt and will give UND a very solid inside presence. If Geno is anything near as advertised, this team could make some noise. Not sure who is or isn't redshirting but guessing Seales plays right away.  I don't think it can be stated enough how huge the overseas trip was for this team, giving them a huge advantage working in the new parts before the season started. Roles are defined and players have bought in. The team chemistry will be very much improved and noticeable. That alone will make a huge difference.

This team is going to be fun to watch. Duckies and bunnies until proven otherwise.

[sioux2013]

To be expected with what UND has returning for production but I'll take them finishing much better than that with zero hesitation. 

Q is a conference POY candidate. Baldwin and especially Bernstine seem ready to step in and fill the points that graduated/left. Shanks and Cashman have another year under their belt and will give UND a very solid inside presence. If Geno is anything near as advertised, this team could make some noise. Not sure who is or isn't redshirting but guessing Seales plays right away.  I don't think it can be stated enough how huge the overseas trip was for this team, giving them a huge advantage working in the new parts before the season started. Roles are defined and players have bought in. The team chemistry will be very much improved and noticeable. That alone will make a huge difference.

This team is going to be fun to watch. Duckies and bunnies until proven otherwise.

Have to agree.  I believe the national ranking and Big Sky ranking is off.  This team has some talent and enough experience to make it dangerous to anyone in the Big Sky.   However, as we have seen in the past you need chemistry as much as talent.  We had mega talent several years ago, but little chemistry and team play.   This team should do well above poll expectations.

[hoops44]

may have talent but very low on experience . 

[The Sicatoka]

Print it. Put it on the locker room door. You'll find out who's right. 

[Siouxper Slam 29]

The Europe trip gave a little bit of hope, but they still have a long ways to go.  As long as they don't lose to UM-Morris, Waldorf, or Valley City State, I'll be hopeful; a loss or very close game with any of those teams, and I'm done.

[niouxsiouxfan]

may have talent but very low on experience . 

Experience is subjective.  Many kids have played at high level with their school and AAU program.  With some competing and winning their state championships. Would take that experience over the last few years of players that have college playing time (minus couple exceptions).  Like these what these guys showed overseas.  The unselfishness the team showed overseas, with the ability to fight for a win, and finding the scorer in Hooker (which they needed), is something this team is now building on.  Most of the players roles are now defined.  They are now working on getting better together and proving the polls wrong. 

[hoops44]

Experience is subjective.  Many kids have played at high level with their school and AAU program.  With some competing and winning their state championships. Would take that experience over the last few years of players that have college playing time (minus couple exceptions).  Like these what these guys showed overseas.  The unselfishness the team showed overseas, with the ability to fight for a win, and finding the scorer in Hooker (which they needed), is something this team is now building on.  Most of the players roles are now defined.  They are now working on getting better together and proving the polls wrong. 

experience is quantifiable and therefore objective in terms of quantity.  The quality of experience is subjective.   UND returns one of the top 5 and 2 of top 8 scorers from last season and is projected to have zero seniors and one junior is starting 5 therefore   LOW on D1 basketball experience 

[hoops44]

so far jones UND Fighting HAWKS doing quite well in exceeding preseason ranking of 328 ....current RPI of 250  is 78 spots above preseason rating

 

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2015-16 RPI
RK (RPI)	TEAM	RPI	D1 W-L	SOS	NCRP	NCSS	CFRP	CFSS	1-25	26-50	51-100	L12	LRPI	OFFQ	DEFQ	ASM
1 (51)	Weber State	.5914	3-2	36	181	36	219	33	0-0	1-0	0-2	3-2	102	-7.0	4.3	-2.7
2 (128)	Sacramento State	.5282	4-2	229	80	229	206	186	0-0	0-0	1-0	4-2	120	-0.2	-3.0	-3.2
3 (129)	Montana State	.5271	3-3	147	166	148	252	245	0-0	0-0	0-2	3-3	170	-2.0	-8.1	-10.1
4 (190)	Idaho	.4890	4-3	241	157	241	261	215	0-0	0-0	0-0	4-3	262	-13.4	6.4	-7.1
5 (203)	Idaho State	.4789	0-3	10	345	11	217	323	0-0	0-1	0-0	0-3	224	-7.4	-17.2	-24.6
6 (218)	Portland State	.4716	1-3	135	254	135	228	106	0-0	0-0	0-1	1-3	217	-1.3	-3.5	-4.7
7 (250)	North Dakota	.4430

[UND-1]

Sit tight, bro.  They are going to plummet real quick in the next two months.  RPI is worthless until February.

[UNDBIZ]

so far jones UND Fighting HAWKS doing quite well in exceeding preseason ranking of 328 ....current RPI of 250  is 78 spots above preseason rating

 

[darell1976]

so far jones UND Fighting HAWKS doing quite well in exceeding preseason ranking of 328 ....current RPI of 250  is 78 spots above preseason rating

 

Conference:  AllAmerica EastAmericanAtlantic 10ACCAtlantic SunBig 12Big EastBig SkyBig SouthBig TenBig WestColonialConference USAHorizonIvyMAACMid-AmericanMEACMissouri ValleyMountain WestNortheastOhio ValleyPac-12Patriot LeagueSECSouthernSouthlandSWACSummit LeagueSun BeltWest CoastWAC
Season: 2015-162014-152013-142012-132011-122010-11

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2015-16 RPI
RK (RPI)	TEAM	RPI	D1 W-L	SOS	NCRP	NCSS	CFRP	CFSS	1-25	26-50	51-100	L12	LRPI	OFFQ	DEFQ	ASM
1 (51)	Weber State	.5914	3-2	36	181	36	219	33	0-0	1-0	0-2	3-2	102	-7.0	4.3	-2.7
2 (128)	Sacramento State	.5282	4-2	229	80	229	206	186	0-0	0-0	1-0	4-2	120	-0.2	-3.0	-3.2
3 (129)	Montana State	.5271	3-3	147	166	148	252	245	0-0	0-0	0-2	3-3	170	-2.0	-8.1	-10.1
4 (190)	Idaho	.4890	4-3	241	157	241	261	215	0-0	0-0	0-0	4-3	262	-13.4	6.4	-7.1
5 (203)	Idaho State	.4789	0-3	10	345	11	217	323	0-0	0-1	0-0	0-3	224	-7.4	-17.2	-24.6
6 (218)	Portland State	.4716	1-3	135	254	135	228	106	0-0	0-0	0-1	1-3	217	-1.3	-3.5	-4.7
7 (250)	North Dakota	.4430

Up 78 points, thanks to our SOS. Wisconsin and UNI and soon NDSU will up our spots even more.

[UNDBIZ]

http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-basketball/3895370-und-basketball-youth-not-excuse-und-continues-its-season

“(Bradley) is a team like us,” said Crandall. “It comes down to who’s going to play hard and who’s going to play smarter. If we come out hot and punch them in the mouth, we should have a pretty good chance.”

Who's telling these guys they're not good enough to play with good teams? They should believe they're going to beat Bradley. 

 

[Oxbow6]

Lots of "good" losses on the schedule so far to move up to 250 in the RPI.

 

Extend Jones..................

[jdub27]

Lots of "good" losses on the schedule so far to move up to 250 in the RPI.

Someone needs to tell them here is zero chance of an at large bid and quality losses aren't going to help them.

[UND92]

http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-basketball/3895370-und-basketball-youth-not-excuse-und-continues-its-season

Who's telling these guys they're not good enough to play with good teams? They should believe they're going to beat Bradley. 

 

I think what this quote tells us is that they know they have to show up each night and play hard.  If they do that they will have a chance to win any game.  If they just show up and not play hard, they won't win.  I saw some good things in the Wisconsin game and the second half of the Walford game showed that they can play good defense and that offense starts first with a good defense.  They better play Defense against NDSU or it could be like last year.

[hoops44]

Amazing work by Jones so far RPI  now 4th in Big Sky and almost 100 teams better than preseason prediction

RPI Rk		Big Sky	Conf	All	RPI	SOS Rk	SOS
	60	Weber St.	0-0	3-2	0.5850	104	0.5419
	131	Sacramento St.	0-0	4-2	0.5306	193	0.4852
	200	Idaho	0-0	4-4	0.4822	210	0.4763
	230	North Dakota	0-0	3-4	0.4525	255	0.4519
	255	Montana St.	0-0	3-4	0.4346	281	0.4396
	261	Eastern Wash.	0-0	3-3	0.4269	334	0.3769
	262	Portland St.	0-0	1-4	0.4261	229	0.4667
	267	Southern Utah	0-0	1-5	0.4221	194	0.4851
	268	Montana	0-0	2-3	0.4219	299	0.4292
	292	Idaho St.	0-0	0-4	0.4070	100	0.5427
	340	Northern Colorado	0-0	0-6	0.3530	222	0.4707
	347	Northern Arizona