Non-UND FCS Thread

[geaux_sioux]

25 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said:

While I too hope that eventually UND can get to where NDSU is competitively. I just don't understand why there is so much bashing on the team. The fans, sure ... The media love, sure, but the team, they have pretty much earned the spot they are in. Talking about a cupcake side of the bracket ... really? They have basically dominated everyone, not sure why we need chalk up that kind of performance to weak opponents, especially from our vantage point at UND. It just like people talking about NDSU slipping before the season started; and now they are in another championship game, with a ridiculous recruiting class coming in. I think folks on this board need to take a little step back in the smack talk of NDSUs team or performance, and focus on our own guys. Lets face it, it is exactly where we want our team to be.

I don't much care what NDSU is doing unless we play them next year, which I hope we do. It will mean we are in the playoffs and doing far better than this season.

!@#$ ndsu

[SIOUXFAN97]

26 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said:

While I too hope that eventually UND can get to where NDSU is competitively. I just don't understand why there is so much bashing on the team. The fans, sure ... The media love, sure, but the team, they have pretty much earned the spot they are in. Talking about a cupcake side of the bracket ... really? They have basically dominated THE LITTLE SISTERS OF THE POOR, not sure why we need chalk up that kind of performance to weak opponents, especially from our vantage point at UND. It just like people talking about NDSU slipping before the season started; and now they are in another championship game, with a ridiculous recruiting class coming in. I think folks on this board need to take a little step back in the smack talk of NDSUs team or performance, and focus on our own guys. Lets face it, it is exactly where we want our team to be.

I don't much care what NDSU is doing unless we play them next year, which I hope we do. It will mean we are in the playoffs and doing far better than this season.

 

[siouxfan512]

Hey, I don't like NDSU any more than the next guys I just think its funny that people on this forum were talking about their teams regressing and slipping back a bit, prior to them going back to the Nat'l Championship game, or talking about how they had a cupcake run to the championship, while we have moved on to basketball or hockey. Just sounds like a whole lot of jealous whining to me. If we were sitting where the Bison are, with the same path to the championship, nobody would be talking about a cupcake path.

Now I will be pulling for JMU, but to say that the team is where they are because of who they played is a little dumb. 

[fightingsioux4life]

1 hour ago, siouxfan512 said:

While I too hope that eventually UND can get to where NDSU is competitively. I just don't understand why there is so much bashing on the team. The fans, sure ... The media love, sure, but the team, they have pretty much earned the spot they are in. Talking about a cupcake side of the bracket ... really? They have basically dominated everyone, not sure why we need chalk up that kind of performance to weak opponents, especially from our vantage point at UND. It just like people talking about NDSU slipping before the season started; and now they are in another championship game, with a ridiculous recruiting class coming in. I think folks on this board need to take a little step back in the smack talk of NDSUs team or performance, and focus on our own guys. Lets face it, it is exactly where we want our team to be.

I don't much care what NDSU is doing unless we play them next year, which I hope we do. It will mean we are in the playoffs and doing far better than this season.

If we were in NDSU's position, I would not be making overconfident comments about how all my team has to do is not turn it over and they'll come home "smiling". That completely ignores the fact that JMU is the defending FCS champion and is on a 26 game winning streak AND beat the mighty Bison last year in the Not-So Fabulous Fargodome. You don't take games like that lightly. And I wouldn't if UND was facing JMU for all the marbles. Overconfidence has brought down many a dynasty in sports. It is the primary reason why they eventually crumble.

And we are under no obligation to kiss NDSU's collective backsides regarding their success. Just like they are under no obligation to slobber praise on our hockey team winning NCAA titles. It's a rivalry, not a mutual admiration society. That is how rivalries work. And this is Siouxsports.com, not Bisonville. We can and will take shots at NDSU. As long as their fans keep calling hockey a "fake sport", I will continue my smack talk.

[fightingsioux4life]

1 hour ago, siouxfan512 said:

I don't much care what NDSU is doing unless we play them next year, which I hope we do. It will mean we are in the playoffs and doing far better than this season.

And we need to care about what NDSU is doing because we are in the same region and in a couple of years will be in the same conference. What happens to them affects us, good or bad.

[iluvdebbies]

Sports are so unfair. A member of the media gives his "key to the game" .....and a dynasty crumbles.

[Fry Bread]

I understand most of the people on this board, including my self, are pro Und. In a few years the yearly Sioux/ Bison battle will return. The tougher the Bison are the Tougher the Sioux will be and it will take a very good and very tough team to bring home a National Championship. Having to go through a legitimate Bison team will only make it better. 

[siouxfan512]

1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

If we were in NDSU's position, I would not be making overconfident comments about how all my team has to do is not turn it over and they'll come home "smiling". That completely ignores the fact that JMU is the defending FCS champion and is on a 26 game winning streak AND beat the mighty Bison last year in the Not-So Fabulous Fargodome. You don't take games like that lightly. And I wouldn't if UND was facing JMU for all the marbles. Overconfidence has brought down many a dynasty in sports. It is the primary reason why they eventually crumble.

And we are under no obligation to kiss NDSU's collective backsides regarding their success. Just like they are under no obligation to slobber praise on our hockey team winning NCAA titles. It's a rivalry, not a mutual admiration society. That is how rivalries work. And this is Siouxsports.com, not Bisonville. We can and will take shots at NDSU. As long as their fans keep calling hockey a "fake sport", I will continue my smack talk.

I get what you're saying, but every fan base has people like that, including our own. Not looking to kiss NDSU's backside, I just think its a little humorous that folks on here like to talk about how they were going to slide this year, and they got the easy path to Frisco, like this year was some fluke. They've been doing this for years now. I guess i just find it a little petty and whiny.

[SIOUXFAN97]

30 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said:

I get what you're saying, but every fan base has people like that, including our own. Not looking to kiss NDSU's backside, I just think its a little humorous that folks on here like to talk about how they were going to slide this year, and they got the easy path to Frisco, like this year was some fluke. They've been doing this for years now. I guess i just find it a little petty and whiny.

most people that know anything about FCS football realize in the last ten years half of the good 20 teams have left for FBS leaving about 10 good teams...of those 10 a few don't make because of auto bids that go to the likes of san diego and drake and savannah state that have no business  being in the playoffs (yes san diego has won its last wo playoff games i know)...wich means that the path to their "national championship" aint what it used to be which still isn't saying much anyways to the average college football fan that only follows FBS...("FCS champ? wasn't it mount union or st johns?)

[UNDBIZ]

1 minute ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

most people that know anything about FCS football realize in the last ten years half of the good 20 teams have left for FBS leaving about 10 good teams...of those 10 a few don't make because of auto bids that go to the likes of san diego and drake and savannah state that have no business  being in the playoffs (yes san diego has won its last wo playoff games i know)..

And we were still terrible this year.  It makes no sense to rip the FCS competition when it's our competition.

[SIOUXFAN97]

Just now, UNDBIZ said:

And we were still terrible this year.  It makes no sense to rip the FCS competition when it's our competition.

take away half our injuries and we would be right there. the process of crowning a champ is flawed and in the last decade...watered down quite a bit.

[UNDBIZ]

Just now, SIOUXFAN97 said:

take away half our injuries and we would be right there. the process of crowning a champ is flawed and in the last decade...watered down quite a bit.

How is a 24 team playoff flawed?

[SIOUXFAN97]

Just now, UNDBIZ said:

How is a 24 team playoff flawed?

a few conferences abstain from even partaking in the playoffs and a few other non-deserving conferences get auto bids...take 16 teams...no auto bids, no byes,...and roll with it.

[SIOUXFAN97]

if 7 of the teams are from the mvfc so be it...

[UNDBIZ]

2 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

a few conferences abstain from even partaking in the playoffs

If your conference doesn't participate, you don't get to be the champion.  That's not the fault of the team that became the champion.

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and a few other non-deserving conferences get auto bids

So the hockey and basketball tournaments are also flawed?

[SIOUXFAN97]

1 minute ago, UNDBIZ said:

If your conference doesn't participate, you don't get to be the champion.  That's not the fault of the team that became the champion.

So the hockey and basketball tournaments are also flawed?

but if the best team all year is harvard 10-0 and the ivy league doesn't send a team doesn't that water down the fcs playoffs...if the second best team was alcorn state and the swac chose not to send them to the playoffs doesn't that water down the fcs playoffs....imagine if duke was 34-0 in bball and the acc doesn't send a team to the tourney and a team like butler wins it all with a record of 21-13...wouldn't that be a little odd?

[UNDBIZ]

2 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

but if the best team all year is harvard 10-0 and the ivy league doesn't send a team doesn't that water down the fcs playoffs...if the second best team was alcorn state and the swac chose not to send them to the playoffs doesn't that water down the fcs playoffs....imagine if duke was 34-0 in bball and the acc doesn't send a team to the tourney and a team like butler wins it all with a record of 21-13...wouldn't that be a little odd?

It Butler wins the tournament, then they are the champion.  If you choose not to participate in the tournament, you forfeit any claim to the championship (and should probably just drop the sport).

[SIOUXFAN97]

9 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

If your conference doesn't participate, you don't get to be the champion.  That's not the fault of the team that became the champion.

So the hockey and basketball tournaments are also flawed?

the hockey and basketball tourney's a re not flawed because teams are trying to get into the tourney...FCS playoffs not so much anymore.

[homer]

18 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

a few conferences abstain from even partaking in the playoffs and a few other non-deserving conferences get auto bids...take 16 teams...no auto bids, no byes,...and roll with it.

You can’t use injuries as a reason for us “not being right there” and than say you shouldn’t have at large bids IMO.  

Injuries happen in football, at large bids give a team a chance if they have some guys miss a game or two to injury.  

[UNDBIZ]

6 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

the hockey and basketball tourney's a re not flawed because teams are trying to get into the tourney...FCS playoffs not so much anymore.

[SIOUXFAN97]

3 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

that was the look on my face when i found out last year that a THIRD FCS conference decided that playing in the FCS PLAYOFFS wasn't "worth it" 

[Hawkster]

I feel the publicity that NDSU generates actually helps us in the long run.   People will notice us when they see NDSU.   It sure isn't hurting us when we play them in a few years.     Let them win this one, our day is coming.

[UNDColorado]

17 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

that was the look on my face when i found out last year that a THIRD FCS conference decided that playing in the FCS PLAYOFFS wasn't "worth it" 

Maybe that's because they realized that they will never have a chance? They have great marching bands but quality football no so much. 

[SIOUXFAN97]

5 minutes ago, UNDColorado said:

Maybe that's because they realized that they will never have a chance? They have great marching bands but quality football no so much. 

maybe for a schools like harvard or alcorn state...

losing in the first round of the ncaa bball tourney > winning an fcs championship

[UNDColorado]

4 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

maybe for a schools like harvard or alcorn state...

losing in the first round of the ncaa bball tourney > winning an fcs championship

I do not understand why the Ivy League does not participate in the playoffs. I was referring to the MEAC and SWAC.