Hayduke Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Sorry, but I have to be sold on either of these guys. Hope I am wrong... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxperDave Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I hope it's DeBoer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 D coordinator at two FBS teams, D coordinator for two Grey Cups Champions in Canada, now the Linebackers coach in the NFL. Sounds much better than a FCS D coordinator so yes. Sorta like Craig Bohl worked for NDSU then went FBS coordinator. Then got hired at NDSU. If UND was going to hire a D coordinator wouldn't it be more likely to get a FBS one than an FCS one? I'm just saying most people from the outside looking in without relation to where they went to school would probably pick DeBoer over Bubba. But he's a UND guy...you want fresh blood. Can't have it both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 we need the good ole boy network back! bring back bubba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 D coordinator at two FBS teams, D coordinator for two Grey Cups Champions in Canada, now the Linebackers coach in the NFL. Sounds much better than a FCS D coordinator so yes. Sorta like Craig Bohl worked for NDSU then went FBS coordinator. Then got hired at NDSU. If UND was going to hire a D coordinator wouldn't it be more likely to get a FBS one than an FCS one? I'm just saying most people from the outside looking in without relation to where they went to school would probably pick DeBoer over Bubba. Do you think Bohl comes back to FU if he wasn't unemployed at the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-1 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Do you think Bohl comes back to FU if he wasn't unemployed at the time? Great question and the answer is "no". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Ugh, can't wait until this thing is over.....back to ss.com hibernation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 But he's a UND guy...you want fresh blood. Can't have it both ways. But he's a UND guy...you want fresh blood. Can't have it both ways. Where did I say I wanted fresh blood? I want the most qualified person regardless of where they are from. If that's UND so be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 If bubba gets the job we know that in the future you will have to have previously coached at UND to get the head job. I can't remember the last time the head coach had not previously coached at UND....1950s? Would Bubba be Mussman 2.0? In hindsight UND could have just hired Bubba back in 2008. That great track record sees 1 national championship while our competition/rival has what like 10 now, Carry on... Where did I say I wanted fresh blood? I want the most qualified person regardless of where they are from. If that's UND so be it. Sorry, I guess made that up out of nowhere. It appeared you were down on "UND guys" to me.... except Tibesar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Just pointing out facts and asking questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I will say this this year bubbas defense was better than DeBoers offense at SIU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Another big plus I have for Bubba is he was at UND during the late 80s rebuild and led UMD through their transition to the NCC. DeBoer took over an already great (for the NAIA) USF team and was able to maintain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 UND's Defense in 2013: (out of 122 DI teams) http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs #90 in Total Defense: 426.5 YPG (#1 SC St. 238 YPG) #119t in Fumbles Recovered 4 (#1 EIU 23) #116t in Int's 5 (#1 Sacred Heart 23) #106 Sacks per game 1.36 (#1 SC St 4.77) # 102 Pass Efficiency Defense 145.75 (#1 SC St 92.35) # 53 Red Zone Defense .792 (#1 Missouri St .649) #78 Rushing Defense 186.7 (#1 NC A&T 90.3) #111 Tackles for loss 4.4 per game (#1 SC St 9.9) UND's Offense in 2013 out of 122 teams #66 Total Offense 365.1 (#1 EIU 589.5) #117 Rushing Offense 81.0 (#1 Cal Poly 309.1) #16 Passing Offense 284.1 (#1 SF Austin 389) #25 3rd down conv. .438 (#1 NDSU .560) #49 Completion % .596 (#1 Fordham .706) #78 Penalties per game 6.91 (#1 Citadel 2.92) #74 First Downs 220 (#1 EIU 395) #60t Fumbles lost 10 (#1 Ark PB 2) #108 Sacks allowed per game 3 (#1 Cent Conn St 0.42) #121 Int's thrown 19 (#1 Citadel 3) #14t Red Zone Offense .871 (#1 Mercer .918) #75 Scoring Offense 23.8 (#1 EIU 48.2) #102 T.O.P. 28:05 (#1 NDSU 34:16) # 111t Turnovers lost 29 (#1t Liberty 11) Whoever our new coach is...have fun fixing the embarrassment by Muss. (Bold is the only positive categories) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND92 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I think either of these two will do fine. My only problem with Deboar is that if he has some success he will leave ASAP. Bubba will have more allegiance to UND and not jump at the first opportunity to leave. If they can come here and win, with the new indoor practice facility next year, I think thaey can have success in GF, not only conference titles but compete nationally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I think either of these two will do fine. My only problem with Deboar is that if he has some success he will leave ASAP. Bubba will have more allegiance to UND and not jump at the first opportunity to leave. If they can come here and win, with the new indoor practice facility next year, I think thaey can have success in GF, not only conference titles but compete nationally. That could be a huge factor, what if the coach does a Dale Lennon and bolts leaving us with Muss 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Then we ate back to this process again. Bring back Bubba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Deciding factor for me is the staff I feel each of these guys could put together. Also, after seeing two years of a Big Sky schedule, I've wanted a head coach who is defensive minded. Coach Schweigert fits that description. If I was a defensive player on this team I would be excited if Bubba is the guy. I think Bubba can bring in a guy to coach the offense and continue improving there. Need to get back to a more balanced offense. Maybe Bubba even gets Lotyz back to help with the Oline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeAreNorthDakota Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Hasn't Bubba already bolted after having some success? Why would it be any different this time around? Regardless, that should not be a factor. If the guy we hire is so successful that he has a chance to move up to a bigger job then UND football will be in a much better place than it is today and that's all we can ask out of our head coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Bubba gets lotzy back guarenteed. We all seen what an offensive mind guru can do for us in the big sky... We need defense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Hasn't Bubba already bolted after having some success? Why would it be any different this time around? If he leaves again after 15 years as Head Coach at UND, then I'd say we did pretty well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 For the Caruso guys (and I think he would've been great here), he would have been a much bigger flight risk after a few years than either one of these guys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Bubba gets lotzy back guarenteed. We all seen what an offensive mind guru can do for us in the big sky... We need defense! After last season with our defense ranking towards the bottom in almost everything, this is priority #1!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeAreNorthDakota Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 If he leaves again after 15 years as Head Coach at UND, then I'd say we did pretty well. He was DC for 5 years before bolting to UMD. What am I missing here? Seems like loyalty shouldn't be a deciding factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAKRAT43 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Here's the deal. It really doesn't matter who gets the job as long as they can recruit some high level talent (the players play the game, not the coaches). Also, whoever secures the job isn't going to turn this mess around in one year but will probably need at least 3 years to get us back to a competitive level. P.S. Everybody have a nice Christmas and "GO FIGHTING SIOUX"! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Here's the deal. It really doesn't matter who gets the job as long as they can recruit some high level talent (the players play the game, not the coaches). Also, whoever secures the job isn't going to turn this mess around in one year but will probably need at least 3 years to get us back to a competitive level. P.S. Everybody have a nice Christmas and "GO FIGHTING SIOUX"! Well said!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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