Oxbow6 Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 This is a microcosm of what is wrong with our athletic department right now. All this "duckies and bunnies, sunshine and smiles" BS has to stop. We have struggled in FB and MBB since moving up our programs. But, according to MR. Faison, if everyone isn't perfectly positive all the time, there will be consequences. Standards are being lowered and those lower standards are being strictly enforced. And that is not a healthy dynamic going forward. Well said. 3 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Not real clear on how this could have been "Handled internally" as the next broadcast would have been without Ralston and questions would have been asked. Then it becomes "a coverup". I guess it goes back to the new age we live in - announcers are employees of the school they cover, they sign a contact, they know what is in the contract, they know the ramifications. Chat rooms and media can make this bigger than it is. If an employee gets suspended for something they said publicly about the company they work for it's not news in the newspaper or on the radio. Just curious...what did Ralston say that wasn't factual in his comments to Jones??? To suggest that this in any way, shape or form was handled appropriately by Faison is absurd. 1 Quote
dakotasports Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 All Paul had to say was "I think you let this one slip away" but you just simply can't use the phrase "choke job". I don't care who you announce for, this would not have flown ANYWHERE. It doesn't have to be "duckies and bunnies", but you also can't use a phrase like that with a coach, any coach, right after a tough loss. Bobby Knight probably would've ripped his throat out! 1 Quote
UND92,96 Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 All Paul had to say was "I think you let this one slip away" but you just simply can't use the phrase "choke job". I don't care who you announce for, this would not have flown ANYWHERE. It doesn't have to be "duckies and bunnies", but you also can't use a phrase like that with a coach, any coach, right after a tough loss. Bobby Knight probably would've ripped his throat out! It may have been an unfortunate choice of words, but did it warrant a two-game suspension, or a mere apology behind closed doors? Quote
jdub27 Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Was it the fact that he said it or was it the fact that he said it to Jones right after the game? I think there is a big difference between the two. Does anyone have the actual audio of what happened? I would guess most people haven't heard it (myself included) and are making judgements based on what was in the Herald and on here. Quote
dakotasports Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 I didn't expect a suspension at all. I just figured the next time he did an interview with Jones his face would be red and he would be a little sheepish. They must be trying to make an example out of him....only thing I can think of. Quote
PhillySioux Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 It may have been an unfortunate choice of words, but did it warrant a two-game suspension, or a mere apology behind closed doors? An on-air apology would have been enough. Not sure if Jones supports the suspension but it makes him look soft and think-skinned. What the suspension does do is remind a bunch of folks that don't normally do not pay attention to UND hoops (or did in the past) that UND did piss away a home game that was extremely important. 1 Quote
dakotasports Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 I was listening to it, but don't have any audio of it. Though my immediate reaction was "what did he just say?"!! I sort of felt bad for Paul, because he was reeling after he said it...... Quote
UND92,96 Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Unless it involves sex, violence or theft, I don't think athletic department employees should ever be suspended. 4 Quote
Eskimos Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 It was a terrible decision to suspend him. Are they (Faison) going to talk about this publicly or is the press release the only information we are going to get about it? Quote
bincitysioux Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Unless it involves sex, violence or theft, I don't think athletic department employees should ever be suspended. I see what you did there.............. Quote
bincitysioux Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 All Paul had to say was "I think you let this one slip away" but you just simply can't use the phrase "choke job". I don't care who you announce for, this would not have flown ANYWHERE. It doesn't have to be "duckies and bunnies", but you also can't use a phrase like that with a coach, any coach, right after a tough loss. Bobby Knight probably would've ripped his throat out! You are probably right. But, count me in the camp that a suspension for any amount of time is a bit of an over-reaction. I think at most, Ralston should have been made to privately address the coaches and team to apologize. 1 Quote
Bison Dan Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 You are probably right. But, count me in the camp that a suspension for any amount of time is a bit of an over-reaction. I think at most, Ralston should have been made to privately address the coaches and team to apologize. Really apologize to the team or coach? - If it bugged coach or Faison, Faison should have said something behind closed doors and that would have been it. Now it's a big deal. Thin skin by someone that's for sure. Quote
UND1983 Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Really apologize to the team or coach? - If it bugged coach or Faison, Faison should have said something behind closed doors and that would have been it. Now it's a big deal. Thin skin by someone that's for sure. Can't believe that UND didn't let the process play out and give Paul his day in court. Quote
iluvdebbies Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Really apologize to the team or coach? - If it bugged coach or Faison, Faison should have said something behind closed doors and that would have been it. Now it's a big deal. Thin skin by someone that's for sure. How would that apology go...."aahhhh sorry guys for using the phrase choke job the other night when you guys !@#$ the bed. I was out of line and it won't happen again." Quote
Oxbow6 Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 That fact that Ralston's comments and his suspension by our AD are getting more press than team's coached by Jones continually blowing games that they should win when leading down the stretch shows why this MBB program is such a mess! 3 Quote
BeazSioux Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 We should start a grass roots "Free Ralston" campaign................. I like it ; ) 1 Quote
Cratter Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 The word choke Job is now a dirty word? Get real dakotasports. Pussification of America continues! 1 Quote
Cratter Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Maybe he refused to apologize for calling things like they were. Maybe he has had previous warnings. Quote
dakotasports Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 The word choke Job is now a dirty word? Get real dakotasports. Pussification of America continues! Never said it was a dirty word (just not tactful)......but as a play by play announcer it won't get you very far. You can use it all you want on your own call in show, but it simply won't work as a play by play guy, especially when you are employed the by the group you're interviewing. Ever notice how Paul Allen will criticize certain sport teams, but will never cut down the Vikings too hard? How well do you think it would fly if Tim tried it with Hak? Quote
CMSioux Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 Those who want to hate will always find something to hate about. This is a typical chat room mountain out of a mole hill. Love the irony of the name of this thread and this incident being beat to death within in. Quote
Eskimos Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 ....another move along...don't ever complain or criticize comment....just eat what is spoon fed to you and be quiet. 2 Quote
jodcon Posted February 19, 2013 Posted February 19, 2013 I'm sure Ralston has already talked to Jones about this informally and hopefuly it won't affect their relationship down the road and they put it behind them. Probably not the best choice of words for Ralston, but it's obvious he cares about the success of the program and that's what you want from your people. As for the 2 games...seems a little harsh but whatever. Quote
CMSioux Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 ....another move along...don't ever complain or criticize comment....just eat what is spoon fed to you and be quiet. It's an employee/employer matter, I am sure there are legal confidentiality issues involved. What would you like to know that could be legally shared in this situation? Quote
Eskimos Posted February 20, 2013 Posted February 20, 2013 Those who want to hate will always find something to hate about. This is a typical chat room mountain out of a mole hill. Love the irony of the name of this thread and this incident being beat to death within in. I'm sorry for wanting some more information about the suspension. If that makes me a "hater" than so be it. Quote
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