jk Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 You never know with a guy like Vande...also, maybe a guy like Frats or Gregoire? You just never know when the money is in front of them. Other than those 3, I don't see much chance of anyone leaving at all...and the ones I mentioned are slim in my opinion. Seeing it written like that in January just confirms (for me) my suspicions that, while we not-in-the-know kick it around, sometimes agonizingly, from March to August, the coaches have a pretty good idea all along where people will be the next season. There may be some truly 50/50 situations, but usually the parent club, family advisor, player and coaches have maintained a dialog of some kind during the season. Just a guess, but the names I would worry about would be Vandy and Genoway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 You never know with a guy like Vande...also, maybe a guy like Frats or Gregoire? You just never know when the money is in front of them. Other than those 3, I don't see much chance of anyone leaving at all...and the ones I mentioned are slim in my opinion. Maybe Vandy but I would think all three are going to need to pick it up a bit if they are going to make the jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Seeing it written like that in January just confirms (for me) my suspicions that, while we not-in-the-know kick it around, sometimes agonizingly, from March to August, the coaches have a pretty good idea all along where people will be the next season. There may be some truly 50/50 situations, but usually the parent club, family advisor, player and coaches have maintained a dialog of some kind during the season. Just a guess, but the names I would worry about would be Vandy and Genoway. This kid is a forward so it would probably have to be a forward. It will be interesting to see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big A HG Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I don't see Genoway making the jump. I don't think he'll get an offer after this year that he won't get after next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux_Hab-it Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 In this article Corban Knight says he was told some players might turn pro this summer for the Sioux. Anyone know who? http://www.highrivertimes.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=1396455 Do you honestly think the coaches would tell a recruit that we don't think anyone is leaving early next season so you won't be coming in until 2010. If you want to land him you give him some hope and point out the track record of players jumping to the Pros early. The coaches obviously used the word might, and if your aunt had a beard she might be your uncle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big A HG Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Do you honestly think the coaches would tell a recruit that we don't think anyone is leaving early next season so you won't be coming in until 2010. If you want to land him you give him some hope and point out the track record of players jumping to the Pros early. The coaches obviously used the word might, and if your aunt had a beard she might be your uncle. I see where you are coming from and understand what you are saying...but didn't we have enough forwards for '09 already assuming everyone stayed...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxforce19 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 You never know with a guy like Vande...also, maybe a guy like Frats or Gregoire? You just never know when the money is in front of them. Other than those 3, I don't see much chance of anyone leaving at all...and the ones I mentioned are slim in my opinion. The only one who's a threat to leave early is Vandevelde. I believe we had room for one more forward prior to Knight committing, and there are a couple who could wait to come until 2010, but then with only 3 juniors this year the 2010 class would appear to be rather small. Frats and Gregoire are not going to leave after this year, unless they want to spend a few years in the AHL. They're not high enough of the teams that drafted them's lists... so Vandy's the only threat to leave early in my opinion, and I really don't think he will... but you really never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux_Hab-it Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I see where you are coming from and understand what you are saying...but didn't we have enough forwards for '09 already assuming everyone stayed...? They do have enough so the only hope the kid has for 09 is if there are any forwards who might leave early. I am sure the kid realizes that the odds are probably better that he plays another season in Grand Prairie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 The only one who's a threat to leave early is Vandevelde. I believe we had room for one more forward prior to Knight committing, and there are a couple who could wait to come until 2010, but then with only 3 juniors this year the 2010 class would appear to be rather small. Frats and Gregoire are not going to leave after this year, unless they want to spend a few years in the AHL. They're not high enough of the teams that drafted them's lists... so Vandy's the only threat to leave early in my opinion, and I really don't think he will... but you really never know. vv isnt going anywhere. not even a threat but like you say you neevr know but plan on having all underclass men coming back. plan on just replacing the seniours as posted a page back a buddy of mine and i see it like this with no early departures - just a ist of guys leaving and guys coming in - not a comparison list Miller-Cichy Duncan-Kristo Martens-Bruneteau Kozek-Mattson Watkins-Knight Finley-MacWilliams Jones-Gleason walski - whoever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patatoe Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 vv isnt going anywhere. not even a threat but like you say you neevr know but plan on having all underclass men coming back. plan on just replacing the seniours as posted a page back a buddy of mine and i see it like this with no early departures - just a ist of guys leaving and guys coming in - not a comparison list Miller-Cichy Duncan-Kristo Martens-Bruneteau Kozek-Mattson Watkins-Knight Finley-MacWilliams Jones-Gleason walski - whoever I would speculate that they are going to push one of the forwards (Knight) into 2010. A. that would help even out the classes a little better. B. It leaves two forwards and one defensemen as healthy scratches next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 vv isnt going anywhere. not even a threat but like you say you neevr know but plan on having all underclass men coming back. I would have put VV as a potential early departure prior to this season, but seeing how the season has played out, I would think his chances of leaving early have lessened a bit. He has still had a very good season, but I think another year of collegiate play could really push him to be a dominant power forward in the WCHA. The only other player that I could see being mentioned would be Genoway, but due to his size, I see him sticking around for his senior season as well. I agree with AZSIOUX that we could see very few (or no) early departures this upcoming offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I would have put VV as a potential early departure prior to this season, but seeing how the season has played out, I would think his chances of leaving early have lessened a bit. He has still had a very good season, but I think another year of collegiate play could really push him to be a dominant power forward in the WCHA. The only other player that I could see being mentioned would be Genoway, but due to his size, I see him sticking around for his senior season as well. I agree with AZSIOUX that we could see very few (or no) early departures this upcoming offseason. VV is heating up and I think he has a chance of going but I wouldn't be surprised if he stayed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 VV is heating up and I think he has a chance of going but I wouldn't be surprised if he stayed. i wouldnt call 1 goal and 1 assit in the sioux last 4 games heating up by any means but i hear ya as hes playing good hockey. the 3 goals and 1 assist vs bemidji that weekend was great though. this team wont have any departures and it could be like thepost above where they bring in 1 less forward to have 2 healthy scratches on forward and 1 on D every night. go sioux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 i wouldnt call 1 goal and 1 assit in the sioux last 4 games heating up by any means but i hear ya as hes playing good hockey. the 3 goals and 1 assist vs bemidji that weekend was great though. this team wont have any departures and it could be like thepost above where they bring in 1 less forward to have 2 healthy scratches on forward and 1 on D every night. go sioux I thought he has more points against Minny. oopps I guess my head cold is getting to my brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 I thought he has more points against Minny. oopps I guess my head cold is getting to my brain. hes played much better so i know what yo were referring to. i hate head colds!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejm Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 ...but I think another year of collegiate play could really push him to be a dominant power forward in the WCHA. I had hoped that Vandy would be dominant this year; he has all the skills and tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 hes played much better so i know what yo were referring to. i hate head colds!! I am hoping it isn't a Sinus infection. I am hoping to feel better by the weekend. Beer doesn't go well with cold/sinus medication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 DANNY MATTSON 2-2=4 last night in 13-1 win 15-28=43 points through 14 games tied for 7th in state as of today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 DANNY MATTSON 2-2=4 last night in 13-1 win 15-18=43 points through 14 games tied for 7th in state as of today Yeah that is impressive for High School IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Curious Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 DANNY MATTSON 2-2=4 last night in 13-1 win 15-18=43 points through 14 games tied for 7th in state as of today Its almost slightly ridiculous that 43 points in 14 games is only good for 7th place in state scoring. Some of these games must be extremely one-sided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 Its almost slightly ridiculous that 43 points in 14 games is only good for 7th place in state scoring. Some of these games must be extremely one-sided. yeah that leader in points found here below plays for a team that plays nobody i guess so he may break the state record if he continues it. go down a little to the right on this page and you can find scoring leaders http://www.followthepuck.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxhockeyfan11 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 DANNY MATTSON 2-2=4 last night in 13-1 win 15-18=43 points through 14 games tied for 7th in state as of today 15+18=33 sorry AZ had to point it out You were a number off on his assists. His stat line is actually 15 goals and 28 assists for 43 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted January 21, 2009 Author Share Posted January 21, 2009 15+18=33 sorry AZ had to point it out You were a number off on his assists. His stat line is actually 15 goals and 28 assists for 43 points. yeah i wrote it wrong, woops fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 ANDREW MACWILLIAM - D - Camrose - AJHL - 2008 Draft Pick of Toronto, 7th Rd, #188 NICK MATTSON - D - NTDP U18 DANNY MATTSON - F - Holy Angels - HS MIKE FINK - F - Waterloo - USHL JOE GLEASON - D - Des Moines - USHL - 2008 Draft Pick of Chicago, 7th Rd, #192 BRETT BRUNETEAU - F - Des Moines - USHL - 2007 Draft pick of Washington, 4th Rd, #108 MIKE CICHY - F - Indiana - USHL DANNY KRISTO - F - Omaha - USHL - 2008 Draft Pick of Montreal, 2nd Rd, #56 DEREK FORBORT - D - Duluth East - HS MATT WHITE - F - Des Moines - USHL MICHAEL PARKS - F - St. Louis Selects - Midget CORBAN KNIGHT - F - Okotoks Oilers - AJHL BRENDAN O'DONNELL - F - Winnipeg Wild - Midget CARTER ROWNEY - F - Grand Prairie Storm - AJHL USHL wed games WHITE - 1 goal in loss GLEASON - 1 shot in loss and was even BRUNETEAU - 2 PIM and -1 in loss FINK - 1 assist in loss AJHL UPDATE KNIGHT - last games - sat,1 goal and 4 pim in win, no stats and E in loss tuesday---tied for 12th in AJHL with 51 points,only rookie in top 17 leaders ROWNEY - last games - sat, 3 assists in win,tuesday no points and E in loss---5th in AJHL with 58 points (leader at 70) MACWILLIAM - last games - sat, no stats but even(+/-) in game, tuesday 1 goal and 1 assist in win---178 PIM is good for 7th most in AJHL (leader at 245 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted January 24, 2009 Author Share Posted January 24, 2009 cichy 2 more goals in a loss last night danny mattson 2-2=4 pts in 11-0 friday win http://www.followthepuck.com/ 17-30=47 pts in 15 games - tied for 5th in state scoring rowney 1 assist in 3-2 loss friday knight 1 assist in 5-3 loss to macwilliams oilers , macwilliam had 1 assist and 2 pim in the win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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