Siouxperfan7

Make no mistake. UND is NDSU's biggest rival. Which is saying something because we are in different conferences in all sports and haven't played in football in 12 years. Sure the NDSU brass are going to give the perception that UND is not a rival. But I bet if you asked Bison fans, over 90% would say playing UND is the biggest regular season game of the year next year.

Of course those are those that hate it when people bring up other coaches and compare their success to Hak. But it just furthers the point that everyone that that thinks Hak should be fired is literally our of their mind. Look at another NCHC counterpart. Enrico Blasi. Let's look at his career at Miami: Years at Miami - 16 Regular Season Championships - 3 Conference Tournament Championships - 2 Playoff appearences - 10 Frozen Four appearences - 2 Championship game appearences - 1 National Championships - 0 Also, 5 of the 10 seasons Miami made the NCAA tournament, they failed to win a game. Do you think they are screaming for Blasi's head in Oxford? Just trying to put things in perspective when you consider the success of other coaches in college hockey.

It''s probably been awhile. I swear Goehring was at least an assistant captain back in the day. Maybe there has been one since. Can't recall any.

Another argument that people put for ward concerning Florida State getting approval is they only had to get approval from one tribe, and UND had to get 2. Now sure you could say that's unfair, but really it is not. Florida State had to get all namesake tribes in the state of Florida to give approval. There is only one in Florida and they gave approval. Boom, name stays. All UND had to do is get approval from both manesake tribes in the state of North Dakota. Is that fair, well you can debate that, but it is the agreement that UND signed in the settlement. Have plenty of time to gain approval from Standing Rock. They chose not to give it. Name gone. It doesn't surprise me that details of this issue get forgotten. It has been almost 10 years since this story has been going on!! It does however surprise me that people think that we can go back to being the Fighting Sioux. It's not going to happen.It sucks, I agree. But people need to accept reality.

Wait wait wait.....you are throwing one of those straw man arguments out there!! You can't compare a college hockey coach career in relating to winning national championships to another college hockey coaches carrer in relating to national championships!!

Great campaign, unfortunately about 6 years too late!!

It's been 20 years since UND mens basketball won a regular season conference championship. You want to talk title droughts, it is much worse for other sports at UND. #hockeyproblems

Honest question. Is the style of play that much different out East then it is out here in the West?

National Championships do matter. Every team wants to win one at the end of the season. My point is that we are spoiled as UND fans. Sure we expect National Titles every year. But when we don't win one, some diminish the accomplishments of the season. I am not saying that I have accepted not winning National Championships and winning conference titles and making a trip to the Frozen Four is good enough. Just saying that we need to appreciate they type of program we have and appreciate that our program is at the level where we do expect national titles year in and year out. Not many programs are at that level.

Sure UND has not won a title in 15 years. But the people on this board who would trade in all the success we have had in the last decade for 1 National Championship are crazy. Look at a team like Michigan State. Yep, they got their Natty in 2007. Since then, they have averaged 16 wins a season, have ZERO conference Championships, ZERO Conference Tournament Championships, ZERO Frozen Four appearences, 4 losing seasons, and have made the playoffs only 2 of the last 8 seasons since winning it all in 2007. So I will ask you, would you rather have one great year and then 8 dismal years, or cheer for a team that wins conference tournament titles, regular season titles, and makes Frozen Four apearances!!!

So do you think Hac over played Zane? I mean, obviously we needed him to win games at the end of the season. Cam Johnson had his chance and he struggled so Hac went with Zane the rest of the year. But I am wondering if Zane maybe would have benefitted from some games off. I think that if Zane comes back next year, Tomek will be more that adequate as a backup where he could take the load off of Zane during the season so he can be more sharp come playoff time. Also, Tomec could learn a lot from Zane.

Not meaning to split hairs, but there is a banner with the years we have "participated" in the Frozen 4.

Let's put all the legal arguments behind. My question for you "no nickname" people is why do you want UND to have no nickname? Is it because you don't want UND to be known by anything other than the Fighting Sioux? Is it because no other name will even come close to being as good as Fighting Sioux? Is it because with no nickname, UND will still be unofficially the Fighting Sioux and you can yell "Go Sioux" at a game and it doensn't contradict with any other name? Is it because you want to wear your Fighting Sioux Jersey/hat/jacket/etc around town and to games still? That is what I want the "no namer" to please explain to me.

Right next to the plaque for the alternates!!!

The key phrase that you need to take note of: The University of North Dakota will be removed from any list of institutions not in compliance with the policy......provided the University remains in compliance with the terms of the Settlement Agreement and this Amendment." So in order to remain of the list of instituions not in compliance with the policy, and have the ability to host NCAA playoff games, it must be compliant with the terms of the settlement agreement which required UND to have a new nickname. I am not sure how people can think there is any grey area here. It is that simple. It is in black and white, in writing signed by Wayne Stenehjem representing the University of North Dakota.

Sitting in your mom's basement wearing your worn out Nomar t-shirt from 2001, watching Cheers, and drinking a warm boston lager does not count as being in Boston!!

#6 Paul Ladue exercises the .6 demons from last year and nets the game winner. 3-2 for the boys in green, sending the bean town faithful home crying in their Boston lager!!

They don't have to enact any new rules. That is why it won't be hard for the NCAA to enforce a agreed settlement agreement. Sure you can speculate that they will do nothing. But is it really worth the risk?

NoiseInsideMyHead, you need to start listening to the noise being made by people on this thread. It really is this simple. UND signed a settlement that said they will either gain approval from namesake tribes or select a new name if approval is not obtained. There does not have to be a standing rule in place for them to enforce this. This rule only applies to the parties listed on the settlement agreement. IF you think that the NCAA is too busy with other things to be concerend about a small school in podunk North Dakota, you are worng. They certainly cared enough to fight UND in court. Again, as stated before, if UND decides to go with no nickname, all the NCAA needs to do is point to the settlement agreement and inform UND they are in breach of contract. How much time would that take an NCAA lawyer, about 2 minutes in an email? I think they have time for that.

I am not sure what part of "If UND does not adopt a new nickname and logo......" that people don't seem to understand. And that includes Goehring, the commitee, and Kelley. The NCAA is not going to allow UND to have no nickname. They clearly state that UND needs a new name in the settlement. It is there in black and white. Why would they do this? I think it is fairly obvious that without a current nickname, many people still refer to UND as the "Fighting Sioux". this is exactly what the NCAA doesn't want and why they stipulate that a new name must be selected. In the absense of a name, people will use the old name. The NCAA has remained silent so far as we had the "cooling off perid" and are currently in the process of selecting a new name. I would bet that if the commitee recommends no name and Kelley signs off on it, the NCAA will have a problem with that. All they would need to do is wave the settlement agreement in Kelley's face and let him know that UND is in violation.

http://www.ag.nd.gov/ncaa/SettlementAgreement.pdf Section 2, part d (on page 6) "If UND does not adopt a new nickname and logo, or if the transition to a new nickname and logo is not completed prior to August 15, 2011, then UND will be returned to the list of institutions subject to the Policy." Obviously the state law that passed messed with the dates stated on the settlement. But the settlement agreement clearly states, as you can see, that UND must adopt a new nickname and logo. And I think that if UND has a breach of cotract, the NCAA would have an issue. I am not sure why Goehring and Kelley say that having no name is an option. Unless they had an agreement with the NCAA that nobody else knows about. I am just going off of the facts that are available to me.

The people that want no nickname are people that want to keep referring to UND as the Fighing Sioux. Having no name allows them to do so. While sure it is a way to get around the fact the name is retired, it is precisely why the NCAA stated in the settlement that a new name must be selected. Having no name allows UND to "unnofficially" still be the Fighting Sioux. And the NCAA knew this. If this is te path UND wants to go down, the NCAA will have issue with it.

I would hope that these concerns have been up to at least one person on the committee and that it would be brought up to Kelley when they submit the finalists. I would think that the committee would make a suggestion on how the finalist names would be voted on. But you know what they say, you can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fills first!!!

This game is earily similar to what we saw in 2011. We had the Pony Express line that dominated all year long. We played in an arena basically 90% filled with our fans. Michigan shut down our top line and had a hot goalie that shut us out. The story line in 2015 is very similar except roles reversed!!

I think we can all agree that only stakeholders, as mentioned above, should get the final vote.