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"The Sioux were Silenced" crowd is about 8 years late on their efforts. At this point, trying to convince UND and the NCAA that the Sioux people didn't get their voices heard is a lost cause. Having a rally with Standing Rock and Spirit Lake tribal memebers telling of the times they granted UND permission to use the name are going to do any good at the point. The "Move on" crwod is not saying that we need to move on because that is our opinion. It is because it is the only viable option right now.

I honeslty believe that fans will transition to a new name. You will see less and less Sioux gear out there and more (insert new nickname here) merchandise and apparel. Fans will yell out the new nickname at the Ralph, Betty, Alerus, etc when cheering on UND teams. It will happen. history has shown that. Now will it be everyone right away? Of course not. There will be those that will wear there Sioux apparel to games till the day they die. But as time goes by, new students will come thru the doors, and younger fans will grow up with a new name and want the new merchandise being sold. They are going to yell out and cheer for the nickname of the team. We have already seen it at UND sporting events even with no nickname. You are seeing less Sioux apparel being worn by fans at all venues, (yes even the Ralph). I am not here to say that I am glad this is happening. It is just a reality. Now while I hope that people will trasnition to the new name at different speeds, I truley hope that we can al be unified and support the teams that we all bleed green for every year and not have to deal with all these distractions that have been plagueing our fanbase for over a decade!

UND football has been wearing green jerseys with white pants at home for decades. This isn't something new, So if you are not a fan of it by now, you may never be!!

You can have your opinion. You are entitiled to it. You bring up a lot of points. But let's just break it down to the most simplistic way possible. Having no nickname is just dumb. If it was such a hip, cool, unique idea, others schools (especially ones that were in the same boat we were that had to change their native american nickname) would have considered and done the same thing. NONE of them did that. I could give you reason why like moving forward, marketing possibilities, branding, etc. But it is really this simple. Having no nickname is dumb idea.

What is wrong with Roughriders?!!

Nice. Glad they didn't go too crazy. The stripes on the shoulders are deffinitely a nice touch!

http://www.grandforksherald.com/opinion/letters/3819196-letter-petulance-some-und-fans-discredits-university Some great opinion pieces today in the Herald today. Another person who gets it!

Will the NCAA really allow UND to have no nickname? Will other schools complain that ?UND fans are still unofficially using Fighting Sioux as the unofficial nickname? Can the NCAA really sanction UND for not having a name? Does free speech apply here? How long do we have to worry about this being an issue? If only there were a solution to end all these questions?!!

THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The overwhelming majority of North Dakota/no nickname supporters are people that want to unoffiially still be the Fighting Sioux. You can all deny it, but it's true. And the NCAA knows this as well. They aren't stupid. If you think that we can slip one by them by doing this you are kidding yourself. There are 2 options; Pick a new nickname and be finally done with this issue or kick the can down the road and deal with this circus in the future.

What is also worth noting is that when this all went down 10 years ago, these kids were not even in Jr High. Not that I am calling todays UND students ignorant, but I highly doubt that they have been informed on ALL aspects of this issue over the past decade. Uniformed voters are a dangerous thing. Just look at the last 2 presidential elections!! (but I will leave that topic alone) I think a more telling survey would be to ask for a 1-2 sentence telling why they voted the way they did. Would be very telling and would give the truw motive of most voters.

"I strenuously object? Is that how it's done? Hmm? Objection, your Honor! Overruled. No, no. I STRENUOUSLY object. Oh! You strenuously object. Then I'll take some time and reconsider."

It's all about the risk that UND wants to take. Sure they could not pick a nickname and the NCAA would be OK with it......for now. But there is a chance that the NCAA could revisit the issue if they see that problems exist with retaining the old name exist (in their opinion). So why risk it? Why go through all this again in a couple years?

Deny it all you want, but the UND/NDSU game will be the biggest regular season game the Bison have played in since 2003. It will be an actual rivalry game. Sure games against UNI and SDSU have been intense this past decade, but not even close to a UND/NDSU game. Wheter the scores of both games are close or a blowout, the fans will be demanding this game to be played again and more frrequently.

Has anyone actually talked to someone who likes the name Sundogs? I mean, do these people actually exist? Seems to me they are about as common as abdominal snowmen!!

Which is why Sundog should suffer the same fate!!

The Chicken Queso Burrito at Qdoba is a burrito sent to us from heaven!! Chipolte doen't have anything even close!!

You anti-dentite bastard!!

Can you provide us with the attendance numbers for NDSU wrestiling compared to UND hockey from last year? Thanks!

So to avoid having to walk on eggshells wondering if and when the NCAA is going to act or not act if we move ahead with no nickname, the whole issue can be put to rest by selecting a NEW nickname. That is what most of us want to do. Get this all behind us and focus on more important things like winning games, conference titles, and national titles.

I'll take a stab. Kelley said he was going to consider it to take control of the situation. There were rally's and public outcry ehen it was removed. By saying he is going to "consider" putting North Dakota back on the list, he can control the lynch mob mentality of the situation without actually going back on the committees decision. North Dakota will not be on the Final ballot. But at least for now, the firestorm is a least under control.

NORTH DAKOTA IS NOT A NICKNAME!!!!!! It is pretty obvious the intent of the language in the settlement. An abritrator would most definitely agree that the intent of the settlemt was that UND would select a new nickname, replacing Fighing Sioux. Heck, Stenjehm knew this too when he signed it!! What the hell is is so damn hard for you people to figure this out!!

Read the damn settlemert agreement!! Seriously!! Do I have to make a picture book and read it to you on the magic carpet in the preschool room for you to understand? Come on man!!!

What part of "transitioning to a new nickname and logo" do people not understand?!! That language is in the settlement is pretty easy to understand. The absense of a nickname is not a new nickname. UND must transition to a new nickname. It really is that simple.

They don't have to have a policy. The have a signed settlement agreement. Just because a committee decides that it is an option, doen't mean that it actually can. Once again, The NCAA has not given an answer to this question because they are letting the process play out. Why would they wast their time interjecting themselves in the process and comment on hypotheticals?! If you think that Kelley is going to allow "North Dakota" back on the list, you are kidding yourself. Not gonna happen.

One problem with your argumnet. The NCAA does not have to prove that they have been harmed by UND not having a name. That was not part of the settlemet agreement. I really don't get how a couple paragraphs can be so twisted and skewed to mean so many things just to prove someones point!!