Siouxperfan7

Be unique, recognizable, inspiring, and distinctly UND’s; Promote a sense of pride, strength, fierceness, and passion; Be representative of the state and region in a way that honors the traditions and heritage of the past but also looks to the future; and Be a unifying and rallying symbol.

I am wondering how narrowed down the list will be before UND presents the options to the NCAA to see if the remaining names will meet the settlement agreement and get approval from the NCAA. I have yet to read anywhere that says that this is part of the process. A good question to ask Goehring. I would really hoope that they do that before "North Dakota" is overwhelming ly voted for and then we are told by the NCAA that is not an option and then we just fall back on he runner up as our new nickname.

I think that if Red River High School is not the "Roughriders" then we probably would not being having any of thise fiasco going on. Because it would be the obvious choice. It is a name that fits the criteria laid out by the committee. So should we really throw it out and setle for a name like Sundogs or Pride because a local high school already uses it? Pick your poison, but I would rather be the Roughriders and share the name with RRHS than be one of the other lame names.

Also, look at the list of the nicknames left and tell me which names fit into the criteria laid out by the commitee? . Be unique, recognizable, inspiring, and distinctly UND’s; Promote a sense of pride, strength, fierceness, and passion; Be representative of the state and region in a way that honors the traditions and heritage of the past but also looks to the future; and Be a unifying and rallying symbol. To me there are only 2 names that fit all the criteria laid out by the committee. Roughriders and Cavalry. The rest have no unique ties to the state AT ALL!! So choosing between those, the best option IMO is Roughriders. And from a marketing standpoint, there are some great options for a logo and mascot.

One thing that must be looked at now is figuring out a potential logo that will go with each name. I really hope that the committee is considering this, or at least the consultant they are paying thousands of dollars is considering this as well moving forward. So what the logo's be for these nicknames left? Blaze - a flame? our colors are green white and black. So a green flame? Cavalry - Teddy Roosevelt. Man on a horse with a sword... Explorers - Lewis and Clark? Fighting Green - ?? Fighting Hawks - some variation of a hawk. has many options Force - ? Green Hawks - some variationg of a hawk that is green, again many options Nodaks - current interlocking ND is really the only one that would work North Dakota - surrent interlocking ND I guess. or a current alternate logo we already have. Nothing to exciting. North Stars - Old Minnesota North star logo? (probably can't use) A star? Pride - only option is some sort of lion mascot Roughriders - Teddy Roosevelt, man on a horse (similar to options for Cavalry) Spirit - ???? Sundogs - a raibow around a piece of ice?!!!! Thunderhawks - what the hell is a thunderhawk

I thought I also read that only 3 timeouts will carry over to the second half for the men. That will deffinitely speed up games down the stretch.

Don't forget. "Oh yeah, and its the National Championship game and our fans have been hungry for a title for over a decade. And, if you lose, they will blame you and probably start a thread about you on Siouxsports.com to get rid of you"

I should have said "UND fans can stop riping him". Philly fans, have at it. Its in their blood to be pissed off at their sport teams and coaches!!

Do you not remember the Cam Johnson experiment in the Lake Superior State game? Not sure what would make any coach pull Zane at any time during the playoffs. So that is celarly not an option. While I agree that the coach has a lot to do with how a team plays, in the end it is the payers. So sick of hearing how Hak gets the blame for all these FF loses. How bout putting a little blame on the players? There the ones that are out there. Either way, I just hope all the Fire Hak (and now Fire Berry) nonsense can just go away. Coaches put teams in posistions to win and to win big games. And Hak has done that for 11 years hear at UND. Hak is gone. People can stop riping on him now.

Winning a Championship doesn't define your abilities as a player or coach. Sure it plays a big role in where you stand with your conterparts. But because Hak failed to win a National Title, it doesn't make him a bad coach. Hate to use the Dan Marino analogy here, but it applies. What Hak did during his time at UND is pretty impressive, and I am talking about more than just wins and loses.

I honestly believe that Studsrud will be the guy week 1. Obviously if things don't go well for him, we have a more than capable backup with Bartels and even Molberg. But from what I am hearing, the coaches are pretty high on Studsrud after spring ball.

House the opening kickoff, get 2 pick 6's, and return a fumble for a TD and we will be fine!!

NDSU v UNI is a much more intriguing matchup nationally!! If I had to predict for that week, I would say that the GameDay crew will be in Lincoln that week.

I get that it would be tough to do. Especially considering the demand for tailgating. I had mentioned before about having a local establishment near the dome host UND fans for tailgating and the game, similar to what places like the Pourhouse in Minneapolis does for the Frozen Faceoff. As much as Bison fans scoff at the idea, a local establishment would be wise to do something like that. There are plenty of UND fans in Fargo, and surrounding areas including GF) that don't have tickets to the game but would like to be down there to watch it with other UND football fans.

Getting back on topic...... I am wondering if NDSU and the Fargodome is even going to consider giving UND a designated area for their fans to tailgate. I know that The Alerus has done this for schools that play us. Not sure what they have done for other schools. But you would think for a game of this magnitude involving thier biggest rival (sorry Bison fans, it's true) that they would accomodate. I know that the Alerus more than accomodated Bison fans back in 2003. Probably wishful thinking.

Flames - can't be that, Native Americans used fire in their day to day life. Roughriders - can't be that, Native Americans used to "ride" horses on "rough" terrain. SunDogs - can't use that, the sun is a sacred symbol to Native Americans. Badlanders - can't use that, Native American tribes used to live in the part of the Dakota's known as the Badlands Etc, etc, etc........ Sadly enough, this is probably the reasoning that some of those Profs probably have!!

Totally worth it to get the new Big Sky logos on the court!!

All I can say is...it's about damn time!!!

UND is so irrelevant right now. Blah, blah, blah. SO TIRED of hearing this from Bison fans. Yes we realize that the program has ad some rough years. COmpared to the success down the road, it makes it look even worse. UND is so irrelevant that Bison fans can't stop trolling on this board and obsessing over talking about UND on that other board!! Bison fans hate to hear from other fans how "you are not going to be at the top forever". Well you know what, it goes both ways. UND fans are just as tired of hearing "YOu are going to suck and be irrelevant forever". We all can agree that both are simply not true.

You talke about truth....here is the TRUTH!! The Fighting Sioux name is retired. It is never coming back. UND will adopt a new name and logo. Now, questions for you and the "Sioux forever" crowd: What are you a fan of, the Fighting Sioux name and logo, or the University of North Dakota? Because if you are a fan of the University of North Dakota and it's athletic teams, you will cheer them on no mater what name they go buy. Does it suck that we had to retire the name? Of course!! But its time to accept reality. There will be a new name and a new identity for UND and its athletic teams. You can either choose to be stubborn and refuse to accept change, or embrace it support the teams that you love and have cheered for. So what's it gonna be? You ready to be a big boy? Or are you going to throw a temper tantrum in the concourse at the Ralph because your team has a new name?

My 3 year old son many times throws a tantrum when he does not want to eat his diner. He says "no, no, no" and sits there pushing his plate away. But I tell him that he has to eat his food, even though he doesn't want to. In many many ways, you and the other "sioux forever" crowd members remind me alot of him. Stubborn and set in your ways so much that nothing anyone says to you will ever change your mind. And you just sit their with your arms cross and a frown on your face saying "no, no, no." All Sioux fans agree with you in that the Fighting Sioux name should have never been retired. We all agree that the NCAA overstepped their bounds in creating such rediculous new rule. We all agree that the Fighting Sioux was a great name. A name that was more than just a logo. It actually stood for something. We are all proud of the Fighting Sioux name and the rich heritage it has for the Sioux people and for the school. What people don't agree on is what is best for UND. ?We had to retire a great nickname. It sucks. But that is reality. Do I wish it never happened, of course!! We all do. But welcome to the real world. Things happen that you may not lke and agree with. I am not asking you and the rest of the "Sioux forever" crowd to forget completely about the past and what the Sioux name has meant to this University. I am not asking you to fall head over heals in love with the new nickname. All I am asking is for those people that can't let go of the old name and refuse to recognize any new name the University selects to just think of what is best fo the University and its athletic teams and student atheletes. We can't let sefish pride and anger get in the way of doing what needs to be done and what is going to be done. Funny thing about my 3 year old, once he realized that the food on his plate was good, and by eating it he would be hungry anymore, he was happy!

IF "North Dakota" makes the final cut for a public vote, it will win in a landslide. (I still don't think that UND can legally go by that, but that's a whole other discussion). If "North Dakota" is not on the list and "Roughriders" is, I think that we will be called the University of North Dakota Roughriders. There aren't many other names that have as much name recognition and public support than Roughriders.

Nokota was the name I submitted, so obviously I am a big fan of it. So whether it's Nokota, Charging Nokota, or whatever. Any variation of it I am a fan of. Someone on here doesn't want animals as our new nickname. Well I would take an animal over Force, Blizzard, Flame, etc any day. Nokota fits what I think is the most importaant criteria the commitee laid out. It's unique. I want UND to be the only one with the nickname it chooses. We had that with Fighting Sioux. We can have that with Nokota. Compared to all the other ones out there so far, this one has to be one of the best options. Like I said, I am a little biased!

Charging Nokotas made it, but not just the name "Nokota". I think it is smart to throw in an adjective before the name to break up a potential North Dakota Nokota name. We were once "fighting" so why not "Charging". Even then the Charging Nokota could be shortened to just Nokota, or just Nokes. So when you really think about it, from a marketing standpoint, This option actually gives you potentiall 3 names to market. Might play a factor.

Now that Ermines is out of the running, can we please stop hearing about ermines?!!