Siouxperfan7

The GOBC has been in lockdown in meetings since last Tuesday night. "My source" says they are planning a protest in the Chester Fritz lawn to try to get Fighting Sioux back on the names under consideration list!!

YOu guys must not watch too many games then. On the National broadcasts, it always comes up!

OK, how bout this for an option. Kelley reduces the choices to Roughriders and North Dakota. Put those up for a vote and see what comes out on top. If it is Roughriders, then that is the name and the supporters of "North Dakota" can't complain because their choice made it to the final vote. If "North Dakota" wins out the popular vote, Kelly can then inform the NCAA that UND has chosen to not have a nickname and just go with "North Dakota". If the NCAA is OK with it, then fine. If they say that is not an option and can't do that and that UND must select a new nickname, then default back to Roughriders.

Gotta love the conspiracy theorist out there!! They make rationale topics so much more interesting!!

But we are still under their juriistiction. They are the governing body that our Stletic teams compete under. And we must folllow their rules. Whether you are USC, UND or Alcorn St. They all under the unbrealla of the NCAA and must adhere to their rules. YOu say we are not that high on their totem pole, but we were high enough to have them care about our nickname. And we deffinitely got their attention when UND had a lawsuit against them. TO think that the NCAA doen't really care about what UND does is just naive. You want to test the waters and see is they care or not? That's fine. But I doubt UND wants to go down that road.

Imagine this scenario. UND does not pick a new name and remains North Dakota. NCAA can't punish them, sure if you want to believe that. Let's say UND puts a bid in to host the NCAA Regionals in hockey at Scheels arena in Fargo. Hmm, I wonder who decides the sites to host? You think that sticking it to the NCAA is a good idea? Well they could stick it to UND and never let UND host a regional ever again. Scare tactics you say? Well why give them a chance to do something like that!! Don't bite the hands that feeds you!

SO you are telling me we are dealing with yet another vocal minority?!!

http://www.grandforksherald.com/opinion/letters/3802734-letter-if-und-nickname-committee-isnt-interested-me-im-not-interested-und Apparently for this guy, the answer to the question is never!!

Wht is trademarking such a big concern? I am no expert, but seems that there are many colleges/universities using Billdogs, Eagles, Cougars, and Wildcats that don't seem to have any issues. Name can be the same, as long as the logo is different. SOmone have and tradmark expertise that can explaion this to all of us?

Yeah, becuase a bunch of students on a hockey team get to decide what jersey they will wear when competing for the school that pays them their scholrship to play there. Sorry bud, that's not the way it works. Sorry to burst your bubble, but just because the hockey team produces the most revenue for the athletic department, doesn't mean that they can do whatever they want.

It is curious that it seems that the Sioux Forever crowd seems to be younger fans/college students, and the fans that want UND to select a new name are older. Sure it's not the case all around, but I have noticed that seems to be about the demographic for each group. What is intriguing is these college students were barely out of grade school when all this went down 10 years ago. Many of them may be unaware of the process that has transpired this past 10 years. Which may be why many of the younger Sioux forever/no nickname supporters are willing to go all in on their beliefs. They simply do not know all the facts. Dom I blame them, no. But they should at least get educated on the entire 10 year process and all that has taken place before making a stance on an issue. College kids thinking and rationalizing their decisions.......Might be too much to ask!!

Well, I am not sure many people would put too much stock in your "I would say it is about" poll that you have taken either!!

Not here to rip on the Siou name. I loved it. Was sad to see it go. But nost reconizable and lauded in the NCAA?!!! This is one thing that is affecting many people who are nt willing to change. Yes the Sioux name and the Brien logo were great. But UND is more than a logo and a name. Sure it was our identity for 80 years. But they were the University of North Dakota before, and they are after the Sioux name. People are attatched to a name and logo. If UND never changed their name from the flickertails, I would be a die hard UND Flickertail fan today!! When the NHL announced that a team was returning to Minnesota, did people wait to see what the name was going to be before they decided if they were going to cheer for them? NO!! Because they are a fan of the team first, not the name. So for all the people that love the Sioux name, I was deffinitely there with you. UND will always be my favorite college sports team in every sport. I am a fan of UND not my Sioux hockey jersey.

It boggles my mind that the question has not been answered or even asked.....What does the NCAA think about UND choosing no nickname as an option and just being "North Dakota". Did Kelley ever inquire about it? Did Goehring or anyone on the committee ever bring it up? Did the consultants ever wonder if it was an issue? Seems like kind of big elephant in the room that still hasn't been answered!! If Kelley wants to end all these protests and public outcry, he can simply ask the NCAA what their thoughts on having no nickname are. Granted, it's probably about 8 moths late, but it would clear up a lot of questions and calm things down a lot more if the NCAA says that having no nickname is unacceptable.

North Dakota North Stars. Say that out loud a couple times. Then get back to us!!

Jim nailed it with his blog post today. Do we really want to go from an original, regional name that we were all proud of to a generic name that is the trend for schools changing their contrversial native american nickname?

Great!! So now when a new nickname is implemented, the fanbase will be divided into "Fighting Sioux Forever" fans, "Just North Dakota" fans, and (insert new nickname here) fans!!

I think it was reported that KG had said that when the motion to send Kelley the remaing 5 names was passed. Would seem odd that he would add any at this point.

I don't think the commitees job is done. Still have things to figure out like if the names need to be narrowd down at Kelley's request, when the vote will be, who will get to vote, etc. Unless Kelley and his office are going to determine all that.

So shouldn't they change the group to "The no namers were silenced"

There job is to pick a new nickname. If they suggest an option where they don't do that, what is their purpose?

Never thought I would ever agree with so many liberals!!

If Sundog's is selected, you may see a similar response!!!

Look at the criteria that the committee laid out for a new nickname. Then look at the 5 names left. It is fairly obvious that only one of the names best fits that criteria.

Let the campaign begin!! UND Roughriders!! Jump on the bandwagon!!