Sioux>Bison Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 3 hours ago, Cratter said: Not even a new field, just some small upgrades: A small concrete building with a bathrooms, some GameDay lockers, with a cool lighted sign on the side "home of UND Soccer" other outside, small bleacher for fans, and maybe some of those curved wind protections "dugouts." Athletic trainer at the games. Small cheap stuff. Go find a donor, non revenue sports should be thankful for what they have. Doctor is a head scratcher but I’m sure the rest will come with time. University’s mission is academics, not athletics. There is not unlimited funds just being withheld from soccer on purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 On 10/18/2024 at 1:05 PM, FSSD said: So, the complaints are: 1) Need bathroom facilities at Bronson Field 2) Need a trainer available during games. 3) Cut the grass shorter. Recent Improvements: 1) Resodding Bronson Field 2) Laying infrastructure (fiber) for game broadcasts. 3) Fencing around Bronson Field Here is a link to the soccer facilities: https://fightinghawks.com/watch/?Archive=7672&type=Archive It seems like a nice setup. Cut the grass, schedule a trainer for games and work on potential small set of stands with bathrooms. How much do ports potties cost? The nice ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 18 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said: Go find a donor, non revenue sports should be thankful for what they have. Doctor is a head scratcher but I’m sure the rest will come with time. University’s mission is academics, not athletics. There is not unlimited funds just being withheld from soccer on purpose. Asking for bathrooms and a person to treat their in game injuries is just too much to ask! The university hasn't had to pay for any athletic facility: Hockey Tennis Football Golf Basketball Swimming Softball Volleyball Where does all their money go they are saving?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 10 minutes ago, Cratter said: Asking for bathrooms and a person to treat their in game injuries is just too much to ask! The university hasn't had to pay for any athletic facility: Hockey Football Golf Basketball Swimming Softball Volleyball Where does all their money go they are saving?! the million dollar question people keep asking but no one has any idea.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyHawk Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 If soccer moved into the women's hockey space after the program was cut it would make sense to think they are the title 9 equivalent of the men's hockey team. I don't think it would take a lawyer to realize that the field doesn't exactly scream equity if you compare it to where hockey plays. That could be a major problem for UND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 57 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said: Soccer players don’t like playing on artificial turf. In this geographical area with the variable weather your statement is categorically false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 Regardless of title 9, all of sioux sports fans should help the girls and other athletic programs reach high levels. Including supporting the glaring obvious deficiencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted October 19 Share Posted October 19 So they got a new field and the women’s hockey locker room And they want bathrooms on the field? How many girls go to bathroom during game? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 1 hour ago, HockeyHawk said: If soccer moved into the women's hockey space after the program was cut it would make sense to think they are the title 9 equivalent of the men's hockey team. I don't think it would take a lawyer to realize that the field doesn't exactly scream equity if you compare it to where hockey plays. That could be a major problem for UND. UND is more than in compliance with Title IX. NDSU on the other hand….not sure why their women are so scared to file complaints 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said: In this geographical area with the variable weather your statement is categorically false. UND Soccer wanted grass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 6 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: So use a simply analogy you both can understand on grass fields.... Bronson Field = late 70s porn star Premier League/World Cup = Top 1% OnlyFans I think Bronson may have actually been upgraded to a fifa level pitch. Have they kept it to that level? Doesn’t sound like it. But I know they invested in it so it’s very disappointing if they wasted that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 1 hour ago, gfhockey said: So they got a new field and the women’s hockey locker room And they want bathrooms on the field? How many girls go to bathroom during game? Or put another way.... They got grass and a locker room. Now they want bathrooms too?! And someone to help their injuries?! How selfish of UND athletes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 3 minutes ago, Cratter said: Or put another way.... They got grass and a locker room. Now they want bathrooms too?! And someone to help their injuries?! How selfish of UND athletes! Fifa certified not enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 2 hours ago, HockeyHawk said: If soccer moved into the women's hockey space after the program was cut it would make sense to think they are the title 9 equivalent of the men's hockey team. I don't think it would take a lawyer to realize that the field doesn't exactly scream equity if you compare it to where hockey plays. That could be a major problem for UND. What women’s team at NDSU has the same level facilities as football??? Explain to me in title 9 law that men’s and women’s sports need to have equal facilities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 18 minutes ago, Cratter said: Or put another way.... They got grass and a locker room. Now they want bathrooms too?! And someone to help their injuries?! How selfish of UND athletes! Just put an email in to Chaves to donate some porta potties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 2 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: In this geographical area with the variable weather your statement is categorically false. UND soccer wanted grass, answer that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 13 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said: UND soccer wanted grass, answer that ! Wanting grass vs what players prefer to play on are two different things. It's not complicated. UND doesn't have the resources to properly maintain a quality grass field. The least desired field to play on in the Summit is at UND. Least desired in the NSIC is MSUM. Both....grass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 37 minutes ago, gfhockey said: Fifa certified not enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 44 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said: Just put an email in to Chaves to donate some porta potties That doesn't even make sense. They want running water for bathrooms like from 70+ years ago. Ask yourself why your defending, a university you support, not even giving their student athletes the bare minimum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 11 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Wanting grass vs what players prefer to play on are two different things. It's not complicated. UND doesn't have the resources to properly maintain a quality grass field. The least desired field to play on in the Summit is at UND. Least desired in the NSIC is MSUM. Both....grass. Absolutely. Grass can be best but takes a lot of constant care....aka golf putting greens. UNDs turf look anything like a putting green? They ain't even mowing the grass on their turf now for f's sake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 So if they want grass we got them grass nownthey don’t want grass and now they want porta potties give them porta potties. The ones that have lights my god Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 Hell Doug munksi is a Dr give them him too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 44 minutes ago, gfhockey said: we got them grass Now they want porta potties They also want like the grass cut too! No. They don't want porta potties. Let's work on our 8th grade English skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 8 minutes ago, Cratter said: They also want like the grass cut too! No. They don't want porta potties. Let's work on our 8th grade English skills. I’ve seen mowers cutting the grass they wanna smoke it too? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfan Posted October 20 Share Posted October 20 13 hours ago, Cratter said: Not even a new field, just some small upgrades: A small concrete building with a bathrooms, some GameDay lockers, with a cool lighted sign on the side "home of UND Soccer" other outside, small bleacher for fans, and maybe some of those curved wind protections "dugouts." Athletic trainer at the games. Small cheap stuff. I am fairly certain the soccer program has a FT Athletic Trainer that is with them at all home and away games as well as practices. Their request is a team physician who I believe only Football and Hockey have on site for all games home and away. Not sure how the Sanford deal plays into this. Altru used to provide a physician for all home events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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