planet2county Posted Sunday at 09:10 PM Posted Sunday at 09:10 PM About half the team this year will be Hutter recruits. Will the 8 person rotation feature mostly Hutter recruits? For those that bring up Jory Collins, his team was in the SL Semifinals the first two years and his team took third his second year in regular season play. Fourth year, his team took second in regular season play. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted Sunday at 09:15 PM Posted Sunday at 09:15 PM 4 minutes ago, planet2county said: About half the team this year will be Hutter recruits. Will the 8 person rotation feature mostly Hutter recruits? For those that bring up Jory Collins, his team was in the SL Semifinals the first two years and his team took third his second year in regular season play. Fourth year, his team took second in regular season play. long story short...ndac has never ever been to the ncaa's in the their d1 era. Quote
CMSioux Posted Sunday at 09:16 PM Posted Sunday at 09:16 PM 5 minutes ago, planet2county said: About half the team this year will be Hutter recruits. Will the 8 person rotation feature mostly Hutter recruits? For those that bring up Jory Collins, his team was in the SL Semifinals the first two years and his team took third his second year in regular season play. Fourth year, his team took seco ond in regular season play. I'm no expert but I have to believe that Collins inherited a little more than Hutter. Quote
planet2county Posted Sunday at 10:19 PM Posted Sunday at 10:19 PM People forget about jesting the Bison WBB teams prior to Collins on this board. The Walseth years. They were 4-12 in conference the year prior. 2-12 in conference the year prior to that. Quote
planet2county Posted Sunday at 10:28 PM Posted Sunday at 10:28 PM 1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: long story short...ndac has never ever been to the ncaa's in the their d1 era. Chill out dude. I am not that the one that initiated the talk about how long it took Jory to turn around the Bison progam. I am aware that UND went to the big dance winning the Big Sky Conference tournament. I was around when UND won 3 natties in a row and a runner-up in D2. Quote
ND-fan Posted Monday at 02:42 AM Author Posted Monday at 02:42 AM NDSU made commitment after Jory Collins was hired in basketball and they improved facilities and money for women’s basketball. Second when he started we didn’t have portal and NIl money involved. He inherited two players in beginning with above average center and very good point guard to start building team around but he even struggled in the beginning having trouble getting team chemistry but continued to find players out of twin cities and Iowa to build this team. Then this past year when Schiller transferred he finally found point guard he needed. Now it appears this team will stay together for another year to reach NCAA tournament. Also there are not many job openings right now for him to move on that are better than NDSU in Midwest. The bottom line for UND in this coming year our goal will be find couple more players that combined with few of this years younger players come together to crest score of players to begin to compete in the conference increase win total to 10 to 15 games if things go well. To win at DI level need experienced players even NDSU learned this year there team had a lot of success but to win conference you need core of seniors when it comes down the stretch which they didn’t have. My hope with these last roster spots were able to find couple of players that puts ahead of schedule and we can keep in the program. Now let’s hear how we cand do this in one or two years to top of the conference. 1 Quote
planet2county Posted Monday at 04:22 AM Posted Monday at 04:22 AM I appreciate your posts. Keep doing what you do. I do not expect a conference title in the next two years. All I expect is improvement to where it is looking like we are trending in the right direction. I will say I don't think the Coach helped himself in the media. I will leave it at that. Jory also didn't have the opportunity to acquire talent in the portal when he started. I know Hutter will be in the Comet Hall of Fame. Fair or not, he will evaluated on this board based on what he does at UND. Brewster was a two time Big Sky coach of the year. I believe he had around a .833 winning percentage in the NAIA and was a NAIA conference coach of the year. Yet, you will hear more about the Summit years. We will see if things trend up this year. Quote
ND-fan Posted Monday at 11:23 AM Author Posted Monday at 11:23 AM Brewstertime here at UND was something unique in yes he had success but I also think his success and health problems eventually brought him to his dismal. His success came early here and I think he thought he was going to move on to next level which never came which is probably known in college AD circles. Second he had major back problems when here which I think effected his work which is not unusual when dealing with on going pain. Then combining that I believe with frustration of not getting opportunities he believed he deserved started environment of putting his time to program and that bled over into his player recruitment and coaching weakening the program. Until he was finally dismissed as coach. Bernhard assistant coach and being former player well liked at school and community was promoted following UND history of working way up in coaching ranks. The problem here this put on long deterioration of program to ultimate deystoying what Roebuck had built here in his tenure. What showed she was not ready to be head coach and did not have enough experience to become head coach and second get on fast curve of learning and developing her coaching skills but followed her history as she played the game. Then it came to assistant coaching changes until administration I believe put pressure on to find help with experienced assistant coaching skills but enter Hutter where we are now. i will not go further but What we have now fan base frustrated and they think we’re in much stronger position and just matter one new higher we will have conference championship in year or two this is not the case now. This is going to take time rebuild we have number of good positives but we also have number deficiencies that need to be addressed plus greatest shake up in division I sports in past 60 years. Basically we’re back where small mid majors are playing for conference championships and zero chance of having impact on national level in major sports. Quote
planet2county Posted Monday at 12:24 PM Posted Monday at 12:24 PM 2023-2024 Season NewUndFan replied to SWSiouxMN's topic in Women's Basketball Jory inherited a many years dumpster fire. He turned that program around in a short amount of time. It takes a couple years to establish a culture and recruit the right players. 1 Quote
NewUndFan Posted Monday at 01:54 PM Posted Monday at 01:54 PM 1 hour ago, planet2county said: 2023-2024 Season NewUndFan replied to SWSiouxMN's topic in Women's Basketball Jory inherited a many years dumpster fire. He turned that program around in a short amount of time. It takes a couple years to establish a culture and recruit the right players. I was just going to state this again. I would argue that Jory inherited a worse program than Hutter did. NDSU was a dumpster fire for many years. Last season UND was in the top half of the league. NDSU back then was bottom every year. NDSU made the commitment to find the best coach possible and was a national search. Not hiring a former player or anyone with NDSU ties. Or a local NAIA coach. Quote
ND-fan Posted Monday at 08:43 PM Author Posted Monday at 08:43 PM The program had been dumpster record wise but they had been poorly coached and little done in weight lifting training done with players. But they had some good players on that first year team and he did good job of recruiting Heaven Hamling coming year plus couple good freshman recruits. The players he inherited were Emily Dietz who became above average center, Rylee Nudell capable guard that first year, Gaiserolva capable experienced forward that had good size and Daniela voegeli ( who later transferred to Mayville who ate up UND when we played them under Hutter) compared to what Hutter inherited this year only two players with proven experience coming back from previous team and several sophomores with limited playing time. This team Hutter inherited had much less talent then Hutter started with. Second NDSU was in process of improving facilities and training facilities and nutrition were improved under his direction. These are only beginning to be addressed now since Hutter was named head coach. I don’t know for sure which program was in overall worse shape between now and then but also plays into it now NDSU is by farther ahead in NIL money for women’s sports compared to UND because I haven’t heard much support but NDSu has invested some money retaining there top players. The fact is all of women sports at UND have fallen behind other Dakota schools as well as private schools in the Summit conference. Especially for basketball and volleyball in last 10 years where we are at bottom conference for both these programs where we were playing in national tournaments 10 years ago. Quote
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