fightingsioux4life Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 minute ago, Wilbur said: Hawks Nest 501 c, make it happen! Or Sioux Crew. May be trademarked. I was referring to revenue sources that we are have not yet tapped into. The traditional sources are not going to be enough in the future. They are barely adequate now. That was the point I was trying to make. Quote
forksandspoons Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago UND should definitely explore charitable gaming at Short or Tall. I see the Spud Jr's new gaming now goes to the Grand Forks Children's Museum that is still in fundraising stage. 4 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 27 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: This is not going to happen. Neither is your myopic focus on relegation. it probably will...it guards against the other d1a confernces getting butt hurt...ok utep you won your crappy mwc champ game...your still ranked 28th overall...not our problem....we didnt' exclude you...your sos and whatnot kept you out...your problem for having added dead weight like niu and ndac....enjoy the blueberry bowl. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 31 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: This is not going to happen. Neither is your myopic focus on relegation. relegation is for pro sports not college. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 9 minutes ago, forksandspoons said: UND should definitely explore charitable gaming at Short or Tall. I see the Spud Jr's new gaming now goes to the Grand Forks Children's Museum that is still in fundraising stage. so if a bar has gambling it's automitcailly tied to a non profit? und doesn't have one bar ? let's f'n go then...short or TALL it is then...lfg chavez 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 9 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: it probably will...it guards against the other d1a confernces getting butt hurt...ok utep you won your crappy mwc champ game...your still ranked 28th overall...not our problem....we didnt' exclude you...your sos and whatnot kept you out...your problem for having added dead weight like niu and ndac....enjoy the blueberry bowl. Low tier bowl games are going extinct in the near future. They are money losers, don't offer enough exposure to be worth it and players who are looking ahead to the NFL draft don't want to get hurt in what is (to them) a meaningless game. Football will always have subdivisions. Once the P4 decide they want their own playoff and don't want G6 schools "polluting it", you will have a G6 playoff tournament. It is only a matter of time. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 35 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Hawks Nest 501 c, make it happen! Or Sioux Crew. May be trademarked. Hawks Nest is a great name idea. I conjured that name up myself awhile back (great minds think alike). Before a 501c is formed however, we need to figure out where our revenue will come from. That is the difference between being competitive or not. 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 11 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Low tier bowl games are going extinct in the near future. They are money losers, don't offer enough exposure to be worth it and players who are looking ahead to the NFL draft don't want to get hurt in what is (to them) a meaningless game. Football will always have subdivisions. Once the P4 decide they want their own playoff and don't want G6 schools "polluting it", you will have a G6 playoff tournament. It is only a matter of time. if the g6 doesn't have a seat at the 1a table are they still consdiered 1a...asking for a school that just bet 17.5 million they are or will be..... i think ohterwise 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 9 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: if the g6 doesn't have a seat at the 1a table are they still consdiered 1a...asking for a school that just bet 17.5 million they are or will be..... i think ohterwise So you think FCS shouldn't exist? Hate to tell you this, but it does and will continue to exist. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just now, fightingsioux4life said: So you think FCS shouldn't exist? Hate to tell you this, but it does and will continue to exist. should it ...sure...will it ...nope....it's on life support like the summit...... it'll just be d1 just like EVERY OTHER D1 sport. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: should it ...sure...will it ...nope....it's on life support like the summit...... it'll just be d1 just like EVERY OTHER D1 sport. Agree to disagree. Besides, it's completely out of our hands. Quote
UND Fan Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 40 minutes ago, forksandspoons said: UND should definitely explore charitable gaming at Short or Tall. I see the Spud Jr's new gaming now goes to the Grand Forks Children's Museum that is still in fundraising stage. The problem is that local charitable organizations have all the bars/clubs locked up. If UND would try to replace one of them, it would not be a popular move. I don’t live in GF. Is my above statement true! Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Agree to disagree. Besides, it's completely out of our hands. there is a reason why ndac paid that ransom...they are betting the lower 1a will have aseat at the table with higher 1a conf....they won't after jmu and tulane took a dump on national tv this fall/winter...its over Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, UND Fan said: The problem is that local charitable organizations have all the bars/clubs locked up. If UND would try to replace one of them, it would not be a popular move. I don’t live in GF. Is my above statement true! who would even know...half of us on here probably don't even know...just 1 bar will keep little jimmy from getting a new hearing aid? Quote
forksandspoons Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 26 minutes ago, UND Fan said: The problem is that local charitable organizations have all the bars/clubs locked up. If UND would try to replace one of them, it would not be a popular move. I don’t live in GF. Is my above statement true! Short or Tall is brand new which is why it could work for UND. I brought up the Spud Jr because theirs being for the Children’s Museum seems like a new non profit that the gaming is supporting in town. So, it’s possible to have different non profits supported outside of the current ones. Im not an expert though so maybe someone else can correct me if wrong. Quote
gfhockey Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 23 minutes ago, forksandspoons said: Short or Tall is brand new which is why it could work for UND. I brought up the Spud Jr because theirs being for the Children’s Museum seems like a new non profit that the gaming is supporting in town. So, it’s possible to have different non profits supported outside of the current ones. Im not an expert though so maybe someone else can correct me if wrong. Fargo ones are getting kicked out of town but am sure there’s a line to get there Quote
Wilbur Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, UND Fan said: The problem is that local charitable organizations have all the bars/clubs locked up. If UND would try to replace one of them, it would not be a popular move. I don’t live in GF. Is my above statement true! I can't speak for Grand Forks, but Fargo-West Fargo is a battle royale. Like the day new possible locations open up or contracts expire there are lines at the door if you've got your paperwork in order. I'm the last one to know the legalities of how it all works. Like its been said before, its a whole new world in collegiate athletics. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I'm curious if UND will allow the Short or Tall to have gambling on premises, as it is on campus and would primarily impact (negatively) students. Quote
F'n Hawks Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 23 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: I'm curious if UND will allow the Short or Tall to have gambling on premises, as it is on campus and would primarily impact (negatively) students. The on campus part I get, but the students are going to gamble regardless if they want to. If it’s an option they should do it. Quote
GoHawks Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 40 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: I'm curious if UND will allow the Short or Tall to have gambling on premises, as it is on campus and would primarily impact (negatively) students. I asked this question to someone at the basketball game on Saturday and they said that it's not on campus? They do serve alcohol so why would gambling be where they draw the line? 1 Quote
nodak651 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago UND should be doing this at the ralph https://fargond.bonfirehub.com/opportunities/211769 https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2026/02/09/how-do-you-create-sports-adjacent-mixed-use-districts-that-are-active-year-round-in-cold-climates/?publicationSource=newsletters&issue=69865c37c2aa6f15ce7ff726&utm_source=sbj&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_facilities Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, nodak651 said: UND should be doing this at the ralph https://fargond.bonfirehub.com/opportunities/211769 https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2026/02/09/how-do-you-create-sports-adjacent-mixed-use-districts-that-are-active-year-round-in-cold-climates/?publicationSource=newsletters&issue=69865c37c2aa6f15ce7ff726&utm_source=sbj&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_facilities und has airballed pretty much everything oon the bronson property since the ralph was build...total whiffs Quote
UNDBIZ Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 30 minutes ago, GoHawks said: I asked this question to someone at the basketball game on Saturday and they said that it's not on campus? They do serve alcohol so why would gambling be where they draw the line? The building isn't owned by UND, but it is built on UND property. Not sure what rights UND retained regarding tenants. Quote
Hawkster Posted 57 minutes ago Posted 57 minutes ago 2 hours ago, forksandspoons said: Short or Tall is brand new which is why it could work for UND. I brought up the Spud Jr because theirs being for the Children’s Museum seems like a new non profit that the gaming is supporting in town. So, it’s possible to have different non profits supported outside of the current ones. Im not an expert though so maybe someone else can correct me if wrong. I think there's a limit as to how many gaming licenses are available in GF. I'm sure that heavily regulated as much as liquor licenses. That's why there's such a battle to get those spots. Quote
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