Kab Posted Saturday at 08:44 PM Posted Saturday at 08:44 PM 11 minutes ago, nodakgirl93 said: What's stopping the Dakotas and Montana schools from coming together and making their own FBS conference? Add a few other schools. The ncaa Quote
bubbaball69 Posted Saturday at 09:25 PM Posted Saturday at 09:25 PM 7 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Increases revenue streams and marketability. Increased attention, coverage and publicity. Ultimately, in doing it, you have to win or it means nothing, but need to learn from the past. NDSU will likely win. What will UND do? The narrative in 2004 when NDSU went up to division I (FCS) and UND stayed behind in division II was “good riddance” and “NDSU will fail”. Ultimately it started the hockey-only emphasis for UND; UND athletics has been playing catchup to NDSU athletics ever since. UND needs to be very strategic here. They need partners (South Dakota, South Dakota State, Montana, Montana State) and they need to be aggressive. They need to be willing to spend aggressively (unprecedented) athletically or risk being mitigated completely within their own state. Grand Forks is a hockey town, but North Dakota is a football state. UND needs to make the next move here, of which being patient is the likely one, but it’s not the guaranteed right one. Next move by UND is an important one. Are you suggesting UND moves to FBS cause that might be the dumbest thing I've seen on this sub. We havent even made it to a FCS national title game. As for the other sports we are technically a mid major school because of our size of your school, but spend virtually nothing on anything not Hockey or Football. This doesn't have anything to do with UND. FCS is just fine for UND, you dont move until SEC and Big18 Finnish taking the rest of the big teams then split off into there own thing then the NCAA will be asking for teams to move up and make another conference only then do you move up. 1 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted Saturday at 09:42 PM Posted Saturday at 09:42 PM 29 minutes ago, bubbaball69 said: Are you suggesting UND moves to FBS cause that might be the dumbest thing I've seen on this sub. We havent even made it to a FCS national title game. As for the other sports we are technically a mid major school because of our size of your school, but spend virtually nothing on anything not Hockey or Football. This doesn't have anything to do with UND. FCS is just fine for UND, you dont move until SEC and Big18 Finnish taking the rest of the big teams then split off into there own thing then the NCAA will be asking for teams to move up and make another conference only then do you move up. UND currently lacks an invitation to move to FBS and isn't likely to invest $10 million for such a transition, as far as I know. While it's not wise for UND to move up to FBS immediately, as you say, the school should closely observe the actions of regional rivals like Montana, Montana State, South Dakota State, and South Dakota regarding their football programs. FYI, prior FCS national championships don’t dictate a program's path; instead, factors like geography, politics, and funding play bigger roles. Being optimistic about NDSU's situation simply because of its location (growing Fargo) or athletic success is not solid as the financial implications of moving up are significant. I agree that understanding the evolving landscape of college football is essential for UND to avoid becoming stagnant. Don’t repeat prior mistakes. NDSU's decisions will impact UND, and it’s beneficial for UND to strategically plan its move within the next few years to better the outcome. 1 3 Quote
Hawkster Posted Saturday at 10:37 PM Posted Saturday at 10:37 PM 2 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: not allowed...but you can always sue But then we'd have to change your handle to Suefan97. 1 Quote
Wildfan Posted Saturday at 11:33 PM Posted Saturday at 11:33 PM 1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said: UND currently lacks an invitation to move to FBS and isn't likely to invest $10 million for such a transition, as far as I know. While it's not wise for UND to move up to FBS immediately, as you say, the school should closely observe the actions of regional rivals like Montana, Montana State, South Dakota State, and South Dakota regarding their football programs. FYI, prior FCS national championships don’t dictate a program's path; instead, factors like geography, politics, and funding play bigger roles. Being optimistic about NDSU's situation simply because of its location (growing Fargo) or athletic success is not solid as the financial implications of moving up are significant. I agree that understanding the evolving landscape of college football is essential for UND to avoid becoming stagnant. Don’t repeat prior mistakes. NDSU's decisions will impact UND, and it’s beneficial for UND to strategically plan its move within the next few years to better the outcome. Until this year, it seems the prior 5 there have been more and more traction gaining on splitting the P4 and G6 with the G6 pulling the higher teams from FCS. Curious if that actually slowed down. You would have to think before committing $10 million that it seems that NCAA is currently shifting to staying status quo with FBS as the expanded CFP have given the opportunity to the G6. Quote
Hawkster Posted yesterday at 12:25 AM Posted yesterday at 12:25 AM 49 minutes ago, Wildfan said: Until this year, it seems the prior 5 there have been more and more traction gaining on splitting the P4 and G6 with the G6 pulling the higher teams from FCS. Curious if that actually slowed down. You would have to think before committing $10 million that it seems that NCAA is currently shifting to staying status quo with FBS as the expanded CFP have given the opportunity to the G6. I don't foresee a split. The change coming is that the G6 will implement their own playoff system and will heavily curtail the bowl games. The Big Boys don't want another JMU getting into their playoff picture. 1 1 Quote
Wildfan Posted yesterday at 02:22 AM Posted yesterday at 02:22 AM 1 hour ago, Hawkster said: I don't foresee a split. The change coming is that the G6 will implement their own playoff system and will heavily curtail the bowl games. The Big Boys don't want another JMU getting into their playoff picture. I did find it ironic how much they complained about JMU making the playoffs, but at the same time mentioned nonstop about how Cignetti turned Indiana from dumpster to National Champions in such a short time, and occasionally would mention playmakers he brought with him from JMU to Indiana. If we had a alternate universe to see if JMU would've been more dangerous during the CFP would've been interesting. 1 Quote
bison73 Posted yesterday at 02:37 AM Posted yesterday at 02:37 AM 11 hours ago, Kab said: Montana boards don’t seem too concerned about this, one said good riddance to their fans one is wondering what happens to Montana state game in Vegas in 2027 Game is still on. Quote
CMSioux Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago will miss the rivalry, won't miss their fans. Interesting to see if the trolls continue to hang around here after they move. 1 Quote
UNDBIZ Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 20 minutes ago, CMSioux said: will miss the rivalry, won't miss their fans. Interesting to see if the trolls continue to hang around here after they move. They always have. Quote
cowboys5xsbs Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, CMSioux said: will miss the rivalry, won't miss their fans. Interesting to see if the trolls continue to hang around here after they move. Their fans will still be obnoxious 2 Quote
TwamleyShuffle Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago If anything ther fans will be more obnoxious 3 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 3 hours ago, CMSioux said: will miss the rivalry, won't miss their fans. Interesting to see if the trolls continue to hang around here after they move. Head-to-head football games will once again be gone (just as the sore loser corrupt ag college likes it), unfortunately, but the rivalry will certainly continue off the field … until the on the field resumes. The schools are only 75 miles apart, and despite what some people may think, North Dakotans know that North Dakota is a football state. 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 2 hours ago, cowboys5xsbs said: Their fans will still be obnoxious 50 minutes ago, TwamleyShuffle said: If anything ther fans will be more obnoxious They will remain as cocky a**holes … Quote
CMSioux Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Bubba's not gonna like the FCS ticket prices that come with the "upgrade". Quote
Kab Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 17 hours ago, bison73 said: Game is still on. How do you know Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 15 minutes ago, cowboys5xsbs said: $17 million … that’s not honest money. And anyone supporting UND should demand for the truth and ensure we aren’t seeing misappropriation. I suspect this do to the redundant political narrative of UND is for hockey and NDSU is for football. ND is a football state so that is not equal footing. Rick Berg (former politician) is entering as interim president for NDSU … In other news, hope NDSU fails. Sure, it’s time they go up based on success, but hard to justify it financially. I hope they fail. Fiscal irresponsibility and misappropriation is a likely issue, and UND needs to connect with South Dakota State, South Dakota, Montana, Montana State, etc. and closely collaborate on the future. UND needs to control what they can control and can’t focus on NDSU to fail. Learn from 20 years ago. 2 2 Quote
Popular Post cowboys5xsbs Posted 9 hours ago Popular Post Posted 9 hours ago 3 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: $17 million … that’s not honest money. And anyone supporting UND should demand for the truth and ensure we aren’t seeing misappropriation. I suspect this do to the redundant narrative of UND is for hockey and NDSU is for football. ND is a football state so that is not equal footing. In other news, hope NDSU fails. Sure, it’s time they go up based on success, but hard to justify it financially. I hope they fail. Fiscal irresponsibility and misappropriation is a likely issue, and UND needs to connect with South Dakota State, South Dakota, Montana, Montana State, etc. and closely collaborating on the future. UND needs to control what they can control and can’t focus on NDSU and others to fail. Learn from 20 years ago. There better not be a freaking dime of state money to support this 1 4 Quote
F'n Hawks Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Wonder how much the buyout to the MVFC is? Also have to keep in mind the significant costs of going to 105 schollys and overall budget increases with a move to FBS 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Just now, F'n Hawks said: Wonder how much the buyout to the MVFC is? Also have to keep in mind the significant costs of going to 105 schollys and overall budget increases with a move to FBS The jealousy in Fargo is real … UND is somehow getting screwed here with misappropriation… and folks need to be held accountable 2 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, F'n Hawks said: Wonder how much the buyout to the MVFC is? Also have to keep in mind the significant costs of going to 105 schollys and overall budget increases with a move to FBS Agree 100%. But I am sure the "Bring on Bama" idiots are already planning their CFP championship parade. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago would ndac need to add a women's sport imeediately? Quote
siouxweet Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 20 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: $17 million … that’s not honest money. And anyone supporting UND should demand for the truth and ensure we aren’t seeing misappropriation. I suspect this do to the redundant political narrative of UND is for hockey and NDSU is for football. ND is a football state so that is not equal footing. Rick Berg (former politician) is entering as interim president for NDSU … In other news, hope NDSU fails. Sure, it’s time they go up based on success, but hard to justify it financially. I hope they fail. Fiscal irresponsibility and misappropriation is a likely issue, and UND needs to connect with South Dakota State, South Dakota, Montana, Montana State, etc. and closely collaborate on the future. UND needs to control what they can control and can’t focus on NDSU to fail. Learn from 20 years ago. Why are you on this can't be honest money thing? Is it jealousy? Their fundraising has been light years ahead of ours and have been on this path for a while it just finally lined up for them. Let them go an good riddance don't let the door hit you on the way out. Our path to an FCS title may have gotten a little easier. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 minute ago, siouxweet said: Why are you on this can't be honest money thing? Is it jealousy? Their fundraising has been light years ahead of ours and have been on this path for a while it just finally lined up for them. Let them go a good riddance don't let the door hit you on the way out. Our path to an FCS title may have gotten a little easier. Don’t assume it’s with honesty. The fundraising propaganda is just what they want to you believe. They’re gone, sure, but $17 million is a significant figure given recent events and history. Me jealous? It goes both ways. Are you aware of the jealously in Fargo? Jealousy is signifiant in Fargo, hence that fan base being one of the most insufferable in all of sports. Ultimately, UND needs to focus on UND. Strategy is key here. 2 Quote
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