New NCHC tv deal

[NoDak Hockey Nation]

50 minutes ago, gfhockey said:

Just curious for the tech geeks what costs does cbs want the schools to incur? Starmans salary or what? I thought each school supplied own camera men

Seems pretty odd.

[FSSD]

7 hours ago, NoDak Hockey Nation said:

Appears that the rumors of a rift in negotiations between CBS and the NCHC were true. Sounds like the NCHC is likely to go without nationally televised games for the next 2 seasons as they want to negotiate the streaming and national deals at the same time. ESPN+ in 2027?

I wonder if NCHC is simply regrouping with StT joining in 2026.  In 2027, you could go to market with: StT, ASU, UND, and Denver.  Plus, do they start to work with UNLV or UMKC to see what could be done.  Have they checked in on Notre Dame to see if they are happy with the Big 10. 

NCHC needs to be proactive in managing it's schools.  How is Miamii doing? What is the status of SCSU and UMD.  I went to a UMD series this year and it was maybe 1/2 full both nights.  Do, both of them have the resources to compete in the new NIL world.  Are we preparing for another major shift in college hockey?

[Dustin]

4 hours ago, NoDak Hockey Nation said:

go without nationally televised games for the next 2 seasons

Seems to me that if the conference is willing to give up two seasons of national broadcasts on CBSSN in order to position itself with leverage to get a better deal with somebody else, then the CBSSN deal really isn't worth that much.  From the other standpoint, how eager is somebody else to deal with the NCHC?  Maybe the CBSSN deal is as good as it's going to get for a conference/sport that is the NCHC.  Couldn't the conference sign a 2 year deal and then open it up for a big package deal after that??

[Dustin]

22 minutes ago, FSSD said:

I wonder if NCHC is simply regrouping with StT joining in 2026.  In 2027, you could go to market with: StT, ASU, UND, and Denver.  Plus, do they start to work with UNLV or UMKC to see what could be done.  Have they checked in on Notre Dame and to see if they are happy with the Big 10. 

NCHC needs to be proactive in managing it's schools.  How is Miamii doing? What is the status of SCSU and UMD.  I went to a UMD series this year and it was maybe 1/2 full both nights.  Do, both of them have the resources to compete in the new NIL world.  So, we be preparing for another major shift?

I like a lot of what you're saying here.  Markets like the Twin Cities and Phoenix have to add extra value to the conference that didn't exist in 2014, when Denver (and to a lesser extent, Colorado Springs) were the biggest marketing potential.  I'm assuming UND's fans and alumni nationwide is also a factor that makes national television deals possible.  I don't know if I'm ready to see the NCHC get too excited about a place like UNLV (yet), but I wanted Notre Dame from the get-go as a charter member.  IIRC, their NBCSN (which doesn't exist anymore) contract was part of the deal-breaker for the NCHC.  UND, St. Thomas, Denver, ASU, and Notre Dame would be a very strong portfolio to leverage negotiations.  

[nodak651]

6 minutes ago, Dustin said:

I like a lot of what you're saying here.  Markets like the Twin Cities and Phoenix have to add extra value to the conference that didn't exist in 2014, when Denver (and to a lesser extent, Colorado Springs) were the biggest marketing potential.  I'm assuming UND's fans and alumni nationwide is also a factor that makes national television deals possible.  I don't know if I'm ready to see the NCHC get too excited about a place like UNLV (yet), but I wanted Notre Dame from the get-go as a charter member.  IIRC, their NBCSN (which doesn't exist anymore) contract was part of the deal-breaker for the NCHC.  UND, St. Thomas, Denver, ASU, and Notre Dame would be a very strong portfolio to leverage negotiations.  

All of Notr Dames home games are on Peacock, no?  That would still be a deal breaker unless the NCHC streaming deal were also through Peacock I'd think.

[Dustin]

47 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

All of Notr Dames home games are on Peacock, no?

This I am not sure of.  That was the situation in 2014 with NBCSports, but I am not sure what the Big 10 affiliation did to change that, if anything.  the NCHC thought Notre Dame was controlling the narrative too much when it came to TV, so they didn't let 'em in.  A mistake IMO.

[NoDak Hockey Nation]

2 hours ago, Dustin said:

Seems to me that if the conference is willing to give up two seasons of national broadcasts on CBSSN in order to position itself with leverage to get a better deal with somebody else, then the CBSSN deal really isn't worth that much.  From the other standpoint, how eager is somebody else to deal with the NCHC?  Maybe the CBSSN deal is as good as it's going to get for a conference/sport that is the NCHC.  Couldn't the conference sign a 2 year deal and then open it up for a big package deal after that??

Schlossman says the schools make most of their dough from the regional streaming broadcasts through NCHCtv, not the CBS games

[siouxkid12]

6 hours ago, gfhockey said:

Just curious for the tech geeks what costs does cbs want the schools to incur? Starmans salary or what? I thought each school supplied own camera men

I would suspect CBS wants each school to cover the production costs. My guess is CBSSN values their airtime to be pretty valuable. 

[siouxfaninseattle]

CBSSN televises something like 8 games a year and the playoffs, and no games before January. I've never cared much for their idea of a contract.

[FSSD]

2 hours ago, nodak651 said:

All of Notr Dames home games are on Peacock, no?  That would still be a deal breaker unless the NCHC streaming deal were also through Peacock I'd think.

Yes all Notre Dame home games are on Peacock.  It would still potentially give the conference Irish road games.  Trust me, I understand that working with the Irish could be working with the devil.  Let's face it:

NCHC has UND, DU, StT and ASU

Big Ten:  UW, OSU, UM, UM, MSU, PSU and Irish.  If they start adding USC or UCLA or UW or UO.  Those are 4 more big pieces.

Hockey East:  BC, BU, Prov, UConn

The NCHC is going to need to start developing pieces to complete:  Like I said, UNLV, Ariz, USAF, UMKC, Simon Frazier (BC).  Do you start talking to SEC schools Texas and Georgia.

Notre Dame's home hockey games are broadcast exclusively on Peacock, according to NBC Sports.

[Goon]

I'd like to see NCHC hockey on ESPN+. 

[NoDak Hockey Nation]

1 minute ago, Goon said:

I'd like to see NCHC hockey on ESPN+. 

The schools will lose money on this so I don’t think it’ll happen. They’re more likely to just keep NCHCtv with Sidearm sports and forego Nationally televised games.

[RhettRingers]

UND should work out a deal with TSN

[nodakgirl93]

9 minutes ago, NoDak Hockey Nation said:

The schools will lose money on this so I don’t think it’ll happen. They’re more likely to just keep NCHCtv with Sidearm sports and forego Nationally televised games.

Yes because they overcharge nchc fans for it. Nchc.tv is overpriced for the product you receive 

[Goon]

2 minutes ago, nodakgirl93 said:

Yes, because they overcharge nchc fans for it. Nchc.tv is overpriced for the product you receive 

Some of the other team's broadcasts aren't very good, either. 

[NoDak Hockey Nation]

9 minutes ago, nodakgirl93 said:

Yes because they overcharge nchc fans for it. Nchc.tv is overpriced for the product you receive 

Yet they know people will still pay for it because it’s the only way to watch out of market games.

[Dustin]

10 hours ago, siouxfaninseattle said:

CBSSN televises something like 8 games a year and the playoffs, and no games before January. I've never cared much for their idea of a contract.

IIRC, the early years featured games before the new year, but then became a second half only contract later. 

[Dustin]

28 minutes ago, NoDak Hockey Nation said:

forego Nationally televised games

I hope they at least test the waters with trying to get a contract.  If it doesn't make sense, then don't do it.

[siouxforce19]

1 minute ago, Dustin said:

IIRC, the early years featured games before the new year, but then became a second half only contract later. 

The first year of the NCHC they had the conference opener. They even did double headers. I was in Oxford for the NCHC opener in the inaugural season and after our game, CC and Duluth played on CBS sports. They have really gone downhill in recent years. 

[Dustin]

1 minute ago, siouxforce19 said:

They even did double headers

Yes, I remember this now.  It's definitely harder to find college hockey on TV on a Friday night now than it used to be.

[90siouxfan]

1 hour ago, Dustin said:

Yes, I remember this now.  It's definitely harder to find college hockey on TV on a Friday night now than it used to be.

I disagree, 15 years ago finding anything but radio was rare, especially away games.  Today I have access to so many games for free that it's overwhelming. 

[fightingsioux4life]

2 hours ago, siouxforce19 said:

The first year of the NCHC they had the conference opener. They even did double headers. I was in Oxford for the NCHC opener in the inaugural season and after our game, CC and Duluth played on CBS sports. They have really gone downhill in recent years. 

Which is why the NCHC should just cut ties with CBSSN from now on. No contract is better than any contract with them.

[Dustin]

48 minutes ago, 90siouxfan said:

I disagree, 15 years ago finding anything but radio was rare, especially away games.  Today I have access to so many games for free that it's overwhelming. 

I mean, I guess if you have the NCHC app, ESPN+, and Peacock you'd have lots of choices. But I'm talking about a time when there could be a Friday night where UND was Midco/FSSN (sometimes even nationally on Fox College Sports), the Gophers were on Fox Sports North, Notre Dame was on NBCSports, the Big Ten Network had a game, and the NCHC game of the week was on CBSSN.

[90siouxfan]

5 hours ago, Dustin said:

I mean, I guess if you have the NCHC app, ESPN+, and Peacock you'd have lots of choices. But I'm talking about a time when there could be a Friday night where UND was Midco/FSSN (sometimes even nationally on Fox College Sports), the Gophers were on Fox Sports North, Notre Dame was on NBCSports, the Big Ten Network had a game, and the NCHC game of the week was on CBSSN.

I have none of those apps,note the free part. Onhockey.tv

[FSSD]

Noted this in the GFH article:

https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/schlossman-whats-happening-at-college-hockeys-annual-meetings

Each team's revenue share is different depending on how many subscribers the school pulls in. UND makes more than a half million dollars annually on it.

The NCHC wants both its TV rights and streaming rights to open at the same time in 2027, so it can package them together.