SWSiouxMN Posted November 2, 2023 Author Posted November 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said: Free throws 15-26 need to be better If we take out Hong and Erikson, it is 14-22 from the projected regular rotation players(63.6%). Still not great but better than 57.7%. 8-15 from 3 from the projected regular rotation players will work however. Quote
sioux24/7 Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 I left with 4 to go but from what I saw I think Kraft might have the best chance of being a player here. His shot is legit and he’s got some build to him. His finish off Hong’s great defensive play was awesome. 1 Quote
HoopsFan03 Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 30 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said: I will be very curious to see how fast Mara gets up to speed. He looks pretty lost basketball wise. I’m sure will be even more apparent against legit competition but man is he a freak athlete!! And he’s got really good size. Going to be hard to keep him off the floor even with not very polished basketball skill/IQ. That will come with time and being on the floor more though. Quote
sioux24/7 Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said: He looks pretty lost basketball wise. I’m sure will be even more apparent against legit competition but man is he a freak athlete!! And he’s got really good size. Going to be hard to keep him off the floor even with not very polished basketball skill/IQ. That will come with time and being on the floor more though. Agreed. 1 Quote
ND1 Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: I left with 4 to go but from what I saw I think Kraft might have the best chance of being a player here. His shot is legit and he’s got some build to him. His finish of Hong’s great defensive play was awesome. Wow, he has gotten bigger since leaving Red River. Very nice shot. Quote
McBuckets Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 15 minutes ago, ND1 said: Wow, he has gotten bigger since leaving Red River. Very nice shot. I listened to the game on the radio so not able to see the size Kraft put on since being in a college strength program, but I would say Hong and Bothun have the most potential out of the group. We all know where I stand on Hong, but I am excited to see Bothun in 2 years after he puts on some weight and develops to the college game some more. Quote
sioux24/7 Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 1 minute ago, McBuckets said: I listened to the game on the radio so not able to see the size Kraft put on since being in a college strength program, but I would say Hong and Bothun have the most potential out of the group. We all know where I stand on Hong, but I am excited to see Bothun in 2 years after he puts on some weight and develops to the college game some more. I would agree with Bothun too. I think I will give the edge to Kraft but Hong can be a nice player as well. Maybe Doppler did something after I left but man I just think he’d be better fit in the NSIC unless something clicks for him. Quote
McBuckets Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said: I would agree with Bothun too. I think I will give the edge to Kraft but Hong can be a nice player as well. Maybe Doppler did something after I left but man I just think he’d be better fit in the NSIC unless something clicks for him. Doppler got a couple buckets in the last 2 minutes but yeah he would be a real nice addition for a NSIC team, seems like he loves the midrange which we’ll have to see if that translates to this level. My guess is he’ll have to become a pest on the defensive side of the ball to earn some minutes in the next few years. Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted November 2, 2023 Author Posted November 2, 2023 39 minutes ago, McBuckets said: I listened to the game on the radio so not able to see the size Kraft put on since being in a college strength program, but I would say Hong and Bothun have the most potential out of the group. We all know where I stand on Hong, but I am excited to see Bothun in 2 years after he puts on some weight and develops to the college game some more. If there is one thing that Bothun knows how to do right now: shoot it. Quote
gfhockey Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 9 hours ago, McBuckets said: I listened to the game on the radio so not able to see the size Kraft put on since being in a college strength program, but I would say Hong and Bothun have the most potential out of the group. We all know where I stand on Hong, but I am excited to see Bothun in 2 years after he puts on some weight and develops to the college game some more. Hong don’t miss 2 1 Quote
HoopsFan03 Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 10 hours ago, McBuckets said: I would say Hong and Bothun have the most potential out of the group. We all know where I stand on Hong, but I am excited to see Bothun in 2 years after he puts on some weight and develops to the college game some more. Agree 100% here. Of the 5 bench guys that played the final 11 minutes I was most impressed with those two guys. Hong actually has skill and you could tell that he knew how to play basketball at this level. Redshirting all of last year definitely helps. I could actually see him in a year or two being a solid backup PG. Initiate the offense, make the right reads, be a full court pest on defense, and knock down open 3's. Bothun needs a year or 2 of strength and conditioning at this level to develop more, but he could turn into a really good stretch 4 for UND. I see a lot of Kienan Walter in Bothun. Which is a really good thing! Not sure how Doppler & Erikson are scholarship players on this team......... but Kraft is a good walk-on for this team. He will help the team a lot as a practice player! Always need guys like him on the team! Quote
nodakvindy Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 21 hours ago, GoodGood said: I know. Dumb! Midco is paying. Not dumb. They are also local and actually care about the Summit, so will be a high priority. That isn't the case with ESPN+. More money for UND on media deal is a good thing. 1 1 Quote
GoodGood Posted November 2, 2023 Posted November 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, nodakvindy said: Midco is paying. Not dumb. They are also local and actually care about the Summit, so will be a high priority. That isn't the case with ESPN+. More money for UND on media deal is a good thing. I'm not talking about money. As a consumer it's dumb. I haven't seen one fan base excited about it. In fact, the only people I've seen excited about it is Midco employees. 1 Quote
Kab Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 Thought UND would have posted some video of the game, haven’t seen anything yet Quote
ND1 Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 2 hours ago, Kab said: Thought UND would have posted some video of the game, haven’t seen anything yet Twitter and Instagram have highlights posted Quote
McBuckets Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 15 hours ago, nodakvindy said: Midco is paying. Not dumb. They are also local and actually care about the Summit, so will be a high priority. That isn't the case with ESPN+. More money for UND on media deal is a good thing. Its nice for someone who only cares to watch Summit League games but as a fan of college basketball and other college sports this is just another subscription we have to get plus need ESPN+ to watch some of the non conference games. 1 2 Quote
NewUndFan Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 17 hours ago, nodakvindy said: Midco is paying. Not dumb. They are also local and actually care about the Summit, so will be a high priority. That isn't the case with ESPN+. More money for UND on media deal is a good thing. The Midco broadcasts were the ones that were broadcast on ESPN + so there is no difference other then now I have to have a Midco Plus Subscription, ESPN Plus to catch the games on there that are not played at a Summit League school AND Have a TV subscription to CBS Sports to catch those games AND if I want to watch the Iowa game on Tuesday I need a Big 10 + subscription for $15. Not sure why they didnt just keep with ESPN + definitely more bang for your buck because I can watch other teams as well for exact same price as Midco Plus. 4 Quote
jdub27 Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 3 hours ago, NewUndFan said: The Midco broadcasts were the ones that were broadcast on ESPN + so there is no difference other then now I have to have a Midco Plus Subscription, ESPN Plus to catch the games on there that are not played at a Summit League school AND Have a TV subscription to CBS Sports to catch those games AND if I want to watch the Iowa game on Tuesday I need a Big 10 + subscription for $15. Not sure why they didnt just keep with ESPN + definitely more bang for your buck because I can watch other teams as well for exact same price as Midco Plus. Not arguing those points because they are all 100% valid. Subscriptions cost more than cable these days to watch what you want. Stuff like the Iowa game is the same regardless of what the Summit is doing. They did it because Midco is actually paying them, requiring minimum broadcasts and now all Summit games will be televised (instead of being on whichever platform the home team had, if they even had one). Fenton set up a very successful model that was the same thing with the NCHC and the schools with larger fan bases actually see some return on it. Also, getting away from ESPN allowed them to move the championship, so no more Tuesday night championship game on ESPNU, instead they will have some flexibility on when that can be played. I know one of the big complaints is the Monday/Tuesday finish for semis/finals. If it flops or they get enough negative feedback, ESPN will take them back for the exact same deal they were getting. 1 Quote
nodakvindy Posted November 3, 2023 Posted November 3, 2023 4 hours ago, jdub27 said: Not arguing those points because they are all 100% valid. Subscriptions cost more than cable these days to watch what you want. Stuff like the Iowa game is the same regardless of what the Summit is doing. They did it because Midco is actually paying them, requiring minimum broadcasts and now all Summit games will be televised (instead of being on whichever platform the home team had, if they even had one). Fenton set up a very successful model that was the same thing with the NCHC and the schools with larger fan bases actually see some return on it. Also, getting away from ESPN allowed them to move the championship, so no more Tuesday night championship game on ESPNU, instead they will have some flexibility on when that can be played. I know one of the big complaints is the Monday/Tuesday finish for semis/finals. If it flops or they get enough negative feedback, ESPN will take them back for the exact same deal they were getting. Yep, I understand, but I'm hopeful that the Midco deal is a step toward NCHC.tv moving to that platform, which would save me $115 a year on that service. And again, I like the other wraparound services that Midco provides like weekly highlight shows and better support of the conference than ESPN does. And I've also had lots of mediocre broadcast quality on ESPN+ streams, while all the Midco broadcasts have been much better and more consistent. I get that they aren't every going to show Duke-UNC or other big games, but they are very good at what they do and they are actual invested in the community and in the Summit League. 2 Quote
Nodak78 Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, Esoteric said: Where is Northland from. South of the north pole a bit. Sorry couldn't help myself. https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=ca23c2487372819bJmltdHM9MTY5ODk2OTYwMCZpZ3VpZD0wZTAzYTM5NS1mOGQwLTY5MGItM2U0My1hY2JiZjk3ODY4ZDcmaW5zaWQ9NTI3Mg&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=0e03a395-f8d0-690b-3e43-acbbf97868d7&psq=northland+college&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9lbi53aWtpcGVkaWEub3JnL3dpa2kvTm9ydGhsYW5kX0NvbGxlZ2VfKFdpc2NvbnNpbik&ntb=1 Quote
Esoteric Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: South of the north pole a bit. Sorry couldn't help myself. https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=ca23c2487372819bJmltdHM9MTY5ODk2OTYwMCZpZ3VpZD0wZTAzYTM5NS1mOGQwLTY5MGItM2U0My1hY2JiZjk3ODY4ZDcmaW5zaWQ9NTI3Mg&ptn=3&hsh=3&fclid=0e03a395-f8d0-690b-3e43-acbbf97868d7&psq=northland+college&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9lbi53aWtpcGVkaWEub3JnL3dpa2kvTm9ydGhsYW5kX0NvbGxlZ2VfKFdpc2NvbnNpbik&ntb=1 I wondered if that was Northland College. I have been on the campus a number of times. Quote
jdub27 Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 4 hours ago, SiouxFanSince1990 said: The fact that losing even crosses your mind, shows exactly where basketball is at. Anyone taking his posts seriously says more about them than it does the basketball program. 1 1 Quote
GoodGood Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 29 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Anyone taking his posts seriously says more about them than it does the basketball program. The basketball program has finished 10th and 9th in the summit league the last 2 years. 2 years ago in the opening exhibition we were lucky powerhouse mayville state had its worst team in 5 years and squeezed out a 2 point win. Hopefully this year is better! 2 Quote
Hans8891 Posted November 4, 2023 Posted November 4, 2023 This team looks like it could make some noise in the summit. Lots of skill and lots of length. Still missing a true big, but 1 through 4 are solid. Long and very athletic with better shooting than we have had for a while. King is a legitimate playmaker who can find the open man. I am looking forward to this season. May need to get hotel rooms in Sioux Falls. As to the freshman, Bothun and Kraft were clearly the two that stood out and looked like they belong sooner rather than later. Bothun could be ready to contribute after a redshirt year. Kraft needs to take a year to learn how to play defense at this level and get in the weight room, but Zach may be one of the best shooters we have had in a long time and he gets the ball out of his hands quick. With an offense that moves and finds the open look, Kraft will be able to knock those down. Erickson clearly needs to improve or he will not make it at this level. Doppler showed glimpses of talent, but may be an inbetween size at this level. There is at least some potential there though. Add in Tyree next year and we have a nice looking team for several years to come. Bring on the Summit!!! 3 Quote
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