FSSD Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 Does the development of St. Thomas program help replace the Gopher X Factor in St. Paul in the future? 2 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/20/2023 at 4:17 PM, FSSD said: Does the development of St. Thomas program help replace the Gopher X Factor in St. Paul in the future? Expand Possibly. But the NCHC has to get them in first. 2 Quote
farce poobah Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/19/2023 at 9:28 PM, Oxbow6 said: Can UND just join the Big 10? Expand All we have to do ... is remind them that our football team has won the last 10 national championships and we are definitely in. 2 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 On 3/20/2023 at 4:59 PM, farce poobah said: All we have to do ... is remind them that our football team has won the last 10 national championships and we are definitely in. Expand 1 Quote
BulldogMafia Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 Having the Bulldogs in St. Paul would have helped. 2 Quote
Goon Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/20/2023 at 4:32 PM, fightingsioux4life said: Possibly. But the NCHC has to get them in first. Expand You would have to convince 8 Athletic Directors to let them in. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 4:15 PM, Goon said: You would have to convince 8 Athletic Directors to let them in. Expand Yeah, well it would be a big mistake not to get them in. They are a sleeping giant who will give any conference a boost in multiple ways. Quote
MafiaMan Posted March 23, 2023 Author Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/20/2023 at 4:17 PM, FSSD said: Does the development of St. Thomas program help replace the Gopher X Factor in St. Paul in the future? Expand On 3/23/2023 at 4:15 PM, Goon said: You would have to convince 8 Athletic Directors to let them in. Expand On 3/23/2023 at 4:34 PM, fightingsioux4life said: Yeah, well it would be a big mistake not to get them in. They are a sleeping giant who will give any conference a boost in multiple ways. Expand I’ll have to check out a St Thomas game at their high school rink next season and give you all my report. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 4:35 PM, MafiaMan said: I’ll have to check out a St Thomas game at their high school rink next season and give you all my report. Expand You know doggone well they are in the process of building a brand new arena for their hockey and basketball teams. They mean business with their transition to Division I athletics. They are a sleeping giant. The Summit was smart to snatch them up, the NCHC would be wise to do the same. 2 Quote
MafiaMan Posted March 23, 2023 Author Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 4:37 PM, fightingsioux4life said: You know doggone well they are in the process of building a brand new arena for their hockey and basketball teams. They mean business with their transition to Division I athletics. They are a sleeping giant. The Summit was smart to snatch them up, the NCHC would be wise to do the same. Expand I’m in agreement with you - I’m curious to see what their team looks like and how the attendance is. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 4:46 PM, MafiaMan said: I’m in agreement with you - I’m curious to see what their team looks like and how the attendance is. Expand They'll have their growing pains at first. But with their large and engaged alumni base, they should have no problem getting people to go to the games. Their talent should increase exponentially, as they are a Division I institution now and will attract better athletes and better players. They'll be a tough team to play on the ice in a couple of years. St. Thomas would get the NCHC into the Twin Cities area television market. Their academic profile and reputation would be a great addition to the NCHC. Their alumni base has the resources to make St. Thomas very competitive at the Division I level in all sports (it is only a matter of time before their FB team is invited to the MVFC). There are very few negatives with adding St. Thomas to the NCHC and I really hope the conference does not get hung up on having an odd number of teams (9) as an excuse not to invite them. Opportunities like this don't come up often and the NCHC needs to jump all over this. 3 Quote
siouxkid12 Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 4:46 PM, MafiaMan said: I’m in agreement with you - I’m curious to see what their team looks like and how the attendance is. Expand can't be any worse than St. Cloud 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 5:23 PM, siouxkid12 said: can't be any worse than St. Cloud Expand St. Thomas is 10x the school St. Cloud is. 1 Quote
siouxkid12 Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 5:10 PM, fightingsioux4life said: They'll have their growing pains at first. But with their large and engaged alumni base, they should have no problem getting people to go to the games. Their talent should increase exponentially, as they are a Division I institution now and will attract better athletes and better players. They'll be a tough team to play on the ice in a couple of years. St. Thomas would get the NCHC into the Twin Cities area television market. Their academic profile and reputation would be a great addition to the NCHC. Their alumni base has the resources to make St. Thomas very competitive at the Division I level in all sports (it is only a matter of time before their FB team is invited to the MVFC). There are very few negatives with adding St. Thomas to the NCHC and I really hope the conference does not get hung up on having an odd number of teams (9) as an excuse not to invite them. Opportunities like this don't come up often and the NCHC needs to jump all over this. Expand If they add St. Thomas you might as well go for Mankato 4 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 5:25 PM, siouxkid12 said: If they add St. Thomas you might as well go for Mankato Expand Mankato would be another excellent addition. But I would cap the league at 10 teams. The old WCHA got watered down towards the end with 12 teams. Quote
siouxkid12 Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 5:24 PM, fightingsioux4life said: St. Thomas is 10x the school St. Cloud is. Expand I'm speaking about the fans. It's unbelievable that they couldn't get in their cars for the 77 mile trip to support their team 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 5:27 PM, siouxkid12 said: I'm speaking about the fans. It's unbelievable that they couldn't get in their cars for the 77 mile trip to support their team Expand I know and you are 1000% correct; that was embarrassing. But I also think St. Thomas is a much more attractive school overall. Quote
siouxkid12 Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 5:29 PM, fightingsioux4life said: I know and you are 1000% correct; that was embarrassing. But I also think St. Thomas is a much more attractive school overall. Expand For a school that pissed and moaned to get into the NCHC, they should be one of the biggest supporters. Quote
I Ranger Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 4:37 PM, fightingsioux4life said: You know doggone well they are in the process of building a brand new arena for their hockey and basketball teams. They mean business with their transition to Division I athletics. They are a sleeping giant. The Summit was smart to snatch them up, the NCHC would be wise to do the same. Expand I mentioned this in another thread joking but you obviously never picked up on it but others did. St Thomas is already in the CCHA. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 5:48 PM, I Ranger said: I mentioned this in another thread joking but you obviously never picked up on it but others did. St Thomas is already in the CCHA. Expand They will outgrow that conference in about 5 years. Quote
FSSD Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 5:25 PM, siouxkid12 said: If they add St. Thomas you might as well go for Mankato Expand Or add St. Thomas and dump the Clowns. Addition by subtraction. 1 Quote
Big Green Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 St Thomas needs to prove it. Its not like if the NCHC doesn't invite them they are going somewhere else. It's basically NCHC or CCHA for them. They need to prove they have what it takes to play in the NCHC. As of now they would weaken the league. 1 Quote
jdub27 Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 5:10 PM, fightingsioux4life said: There are very few negatives with adding St. Thomas to the NCHC and I really hope the conference does not get hung up on having an odd number of teams (9) as an excuse not to invite them. Expand Putting them on a pedestal and bending over backwards for them and then being stuck with any resulting mess as they use the conferences as a stepping stone would be one of those negatives. Quote
siouxkid12 Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 7:45 PM, Big Green said: St Thomas needs to prove it. Its not like if the NCHC doesn't invite them they are going somewhere else. It's basically NCHC or CCHA for them. They need to prove they have what it takes to play in the NCHC. As of now they would weaken the league. Expand It's not like Miami of Ohio is making the league strong (8-24-4). Rico is only in his second year and needs another year or two to fully implement his system with his own guys. Let's also no forget that Augustana is going to have a D1 program here soon. Might not be the prettiest team to start out but I believe they are showing the hockey world they want to compete right away. They even have their own NIL marketplace for their student athletes. If the NCHC truly wants to this tournament to continue they need to start looking at local teams. This notion that fans from Western MI, and Miami are going to come to St. Paul (even if their teams don't make it) to watch the conference tournament is a pipedream. 1 Quote
FSSD Posted March 23, 2023 Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/23/2023 at 7:45 PM, Big Green said: St Thomas needs to prove it. Its not like if the NCHC doesn't invite them they are going somewhere else. It's basically NCHC or CCHA for them. They need to prove they have what it takes to play in the NCHC. As of now they would weaken the league. Expand St. Thomas brings many things to the table that SCSU or even UMD do not. One primary example is that Midco Sports channel is now on Xfinity in the Twin Cities. The Summit League tried for years to break through. The first year St. Thomas joins they break through in the TC metro. What other opportunities are available to the Summit Leage and NCHC with St. Thomas in the fold? From a Summit League standpoint, I noticed that St. Johns has declining enrollment and cut several programs. My question now is given this new information. Would St. Johns be willing to look at moving up with St. Thomas now that they have see a path. I would love to see both St. Thomas and St. Johns in the TSL. 1 Quote
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