AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 49 minutes ago, dustnyou said: Are you sure? There may be some truth to that rumor. We only recently get players from the NTDP that committed before they went there or they’re from the area. The U17 head coach (former U18 assistant) is from Grand Forks and has been with the NTDP for awhile. His father worked for the WCHA/NCHC at both Ralph’s every home weekend for 30+ years. Does anyone know why there’s not a positive recruiting pipeline relationship there? I find it odd with that type of connection that we don’t have a single recruit from the NTDP right now, last year, or hardly at all recently. Clearly the NTDP has taken over (from Shattuck) as the “honey hole” for top US born college hockey prospects in the past ten years or so. Located in Ann Harbor, they are the best thing to happen to Michigan Hockey in the past 50 years as kids love it there and commit to stay there. But Minnesota, BU, BC , etc have gotten their fair share of high-Enders from the NTDP and we have gotten 0 lately. (Unless they are from the area or committed before they went there). Does anyone know why? It hasn't been in Ann Arbor for a few years now. Moved to Plymouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said: It hasn't been in Ann Arbor for a few years now. Moved to Plymouth. 20 miles to UMi; 75 miles to MSU. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustnyou Posted March 26, 2023 Share Posted March 26, 2023 38 minutes ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said: It hasn't been in Ann Arbor for a few years now. Moved to Plymouth. Yeah ok. That’s like UND moving from Grand Forks to Reynolds. What a dumb reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 hour ago, dustnyou said: Yeah ok. That’s like UND moving from Grand Forks to Reynolds. What a dumb reply You're the one who had a long winded post not knowing what you were talking about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said: 20 miles to UMi; 75 miles to MSU. But they're not spending any time there. The big difference is they are now older when they commit, used to be everyone was already committed when they joined the program anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Boy the board is crabby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 minute ago, jk said: Boy the board is crabby. Has been since fall of 2016. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 hours ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said: It hasn't been in Ann Arbor for a few years now. Moved to Plymouth. Ann Arbor is a whore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 16 minutes ago, brianvf said: Has been since fall of 2016. Great pun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpudsSioux Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 hours ago, dustnyou said: Are you sure? There may be some truth to that rumor. We only recently get players from the NTDP that committed before they went there or they’re from the area. The U17 head coach (former U18 assistant) is from Grand Forks and has been with the NTDP for awhile. His father worked for the WCHA/NCHC at both Ralph’s every home weekend for 30+ years. Does anyone know why there’s not a positive recruiting pipeline relationship there? I find it odd with that type of connection that we don’t have a single recruit from the NTDP right now, last year, or hardly at all recently. Clearly the NTDP has taken over (from Shattuck) as the “honey hole” for top US born college hockey prospects in the past ten years or so. Located in Ann Harbor, they are the best thing to happen to Michigan Hockey in the past 50 years as kids love it there and commit to stay there. But Minnesota, BU, BC , etc have gotten their fair share of high-Enders from the NTDP and we have gotten 0 lately. (Unless they are from the area or committed before they went there). Does anyone know why? The comment was that they are steering them away from UND; not that they aren’t steering them to them. They may not be actively pushing kids to us but looking at the last 10 years it’s hard to say they’re steering kids away from us (Ausmus, Thompson, Sanderson, kleven, Caulfield, Hain). I’m sure I’m missing some. I think a lot still has to do with geographically where the NTDP is getting kids. Still hard to talk an East Coast kid into wanting to come to Grand Forks. if Laurila doesn’t end up at UND (and Lindberg if he’s at NTDP) that would raise a red flag to me. I would actually argue during the Hak years it appeared moreso that someone was steering away. Seems like there were a ton of decommitments (not just to us) and bolting to the CHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brianvf Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 Harvard also lost soph forward Farrell to NHL signing today too: https://www.uscho.com/2023/03/26/harvards-farrell-leaves-crimson-after-two-seasons-signs-nhl-deal-with-canadiens/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFanatic Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, brianvf said: Harvard also lost soph forward Farrell to NHL signing today too: https://www.uscho.com/2023/03/26/harvards-farrell-leaves-crimson-after-two-seasons-signs-nhl-deal-with-canadiens/ Might have more exit as well. They were pretty loaded only to lay an egg against the Buckeyes…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 Mass exodus predicted from Harvard, Minnesota, and Michigan. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Harvard got crushed with the early signings….LaFerriere too. They have some really nice recruits coming in but they took a hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 This is the week I think we really see some real movement in the portal. Here is my wishlist: Defenseman: Palocsik: Dartmouth - Currently the Top RHD in the portal Pyke: Alaska - Currently the Top LHD in the portal Krys: Brown - Currently the #2 RHD in the portal Goalie: 1A: Haider - Clarkson 1B: Persson - Miami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 hour ago, AJS said: This is the week I think we really see some real movement in the portal. Here is my wishlist: Defenseman: Palocsik: Dartmouth - Currently the Top RHD in the portal Pyke: Alaska - Currently the Top LHD in the portal Krys: Brown - Currently the #2 RHD in the portal Goalie: 1A: Haider - Clarkson 1B: Persson - Miami I'd switch Pyke (LH) for Mason Klee (RH, D, RPI). His brother is a UND F recruit. Rationale? Don't take LH D minutes from the freshmen with a safety blanket named Pyke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 15 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: I'd switch Pyke (LH) for Mason Klee (RH, D, RPI). His brother is a UND F recruit. Rationale? Don't take LH D minutes from the freshmen with a safety blanket named Pyke. Never seen either personally, but seems like talent wise, these two aren't in the same category. If you're thinking Klee is going to be playing Top 4 minutes, we're in trouble. The issue really, is you need a legitimate high end #1 pair guy (Pyke would be) and another Top 4 guy. I believe it was last year, the US Junior team had almost every D-man was LH. Realistically, guys are going to have to play on their off hand next year. A lot of next season is riding on the portal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 I'd envision Klee as a true 9th D option for the unspeakable. Nothing against Pyke but I want our LH D to develop and not give the coaches a "safety binkee". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: I'd envision Klee as a true 9th D option for the unspeakable. Nothing against Pyke but I want our LH D to develop and not give the coaches a "safety binkee". Then have Pyke play on his off hand. Palocsik and Krys are a given. What other RHD do you see that are legitimate Top 4 guys? I was hyper focused originally on both portal guys being RHD. I just don't think it's realistic. Honestly, overall, how many Top pair guys are there in the portal for what you hope would be a playoff team? Like 4? How many 2nd pair guys? Like 8? It's a daunting task this Coaching staff is trying to complete right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 One portal RH D is mandatory minimum. A second is a nicety. But I'm thinking in terms of playable, not top pair. I'll take the bumps and bruises to develop the freshmen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BusinessSoot Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 37 minutes ago, AJS said: Never seen either personally, but seems like talent wise, these two aren't in the same category. If you're thinking Klee is going to be playing Top 4 minutes, we're in trouble. The issue really, is you need a legitimate high end #1 pair guy (Pyke would be) and another Top 4 guy. I believe it was last year, the US Junior team had almost every D-man was LH. Realistically, guys are going to have to play on their off hand next year. A lot of next season is riding on the portal. Scary thought that we are even relying that heavily on the portal. IMO, portal won't matter as much if the forwards don't figure how to score goals consistently 5x5. As much as the defensive woes were exposed this year, lack of scoring by forwards 5x5 has been as big or bigger an issue the past two seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 One small upside is that the young forwards seemed to improve their defensive play later in the season. OTOH, it's hard to develop an aggressive, attacking offense if you lack confidence in the D and goalie behind you. Hopefully, Jake can get some pickpocketing lessons from his cousin this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted March 27, 2023 Author Share Posted March 27, 2023 Portal entrants this morning: BC D Marshall Warren (MIN) UMass D Noah Ellis (VGK) Lowell F Brian Chambers Canisius G Jacob Barczewski Providence D Garrett Sundquist Omaha F Cameron Berg (NYI pick) Cornell F Jack Malone Canisius D Lincoln Erne Bentley D Hunter Toale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, brianvf said: Portal entrants this morning: BC D Marshall Warren (MIN) UMass D Noah Ellis (VGK) Lowell F Brian Chambers Canisius G Jacob Barczewski Providence D Garrett Sundquist Omaha F Cameron Berg (NYI pick) Cornell F Jack Malone Canisius D Lincoln Erne Bentley D Hunter Toale You would add the top 2 to the list. Warren was a first pair guy at BC. Ellis is intriguing to me. He would not be the top pair guy you would need, but I would actually like him as the 2nd / 3rd pair (or 2nd ranked portal d-man). He would be a sophomore, so not as polished as others, I've named, but high upside. RH shot as well. Edit: Think of Ellis as a replacement for Johnson's upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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