UND @ The Herb Stone Monument vs. JBU - Friday Gameday

[siouxkid12]

Seems like most fans are pissed off due to the pronunciation of gabers name rather than their play. What have we become as a fanbase 

[brianvf]

4 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

That’s from Schlossman. (XG is expected goals based on shot location and quality)

Who wants to tell him that and $5 will only get you a 6” ham at Subway, not a 12-4 record. 

Maybe we can compete for the xG national championship this year?
It could be a pink banner in the rafters.

[The Sicatoka]

41 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

It always is.......

#washrinserepeat

Is it wrong to admit I miss Hak’s “battled and battled”?  

[The Sicatoka]

4 minutes ago, brianvf said:

Maybe we can compete for the xG national championship this year?
It could be a pink banner in the rafters.

You can put “NODAK” as the banner header.

[jk]

59 minutes ago, brianvf said:

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that playoff hopes are pretty much dead already. 

Could they turn it around?  Definitely.
Have they shown signs of being a good team?  Definitely.
Have they shown that they can be consistent enough to turn it around and fix the issues?  No.

Even if they win tonight, I have even more doubts about next weekend (putting a team ranked near the bottom of the nation in both goaltending and defense against the best offensive team in the nation sounds like a couple blowout losses to me).

This season is shaping up to be worse than the 01-02 season (first in the new Ralph).  And for a team that was ranked as high as #3 in the preseason polls, that is just mind-boggling and incredibly frustrating.

I just completely disagree that the season is over, which I recognize places me in a small group.  I have thought about a comparison to 2001-02 myself though.  It turned out that Andy Kollar was not ready to be a starting goaltender, and Blais brought in Sembieda as a hail Mary.  Unfortunately, that pass fell incomplete, as he did not stabilize the position.  That's the main issue with this team.  Yes, they make mistakes, blow their own chances and give up good ones, but every team does every game.  You just can't have an 0.870 save percentage and expect to be good.

Super predictable message board response to the xG data.  Of course wins are what ultimately matter, but the advanced stats aren't meaningless.  They give an indication of how the team is actually playing.  Given equal goaltending and an assumption that bounces eventually even out, it tells you this team is not playing poorly.

Back to 2002, this team is more talented and experienced and is playing better than that team did.  It had four freshmen D who would go on to be great and play in a national title game, but their first year was full of growing pains. 

The only hope here is that DeRidder finds his form.  If he becomes a 0.920 guy, this team can play with and beat anyone 

[Oxbow6]

4 minutes ago, jk said:

I just completely disagree that the season is over, which I recognize places me in a small group.  I have thought about a comparison to 2001-02 myself though.  It turned out that Andy Kollar was not ready to be a starting goaltender, and Blais brought in Sembieda as a hail Mary.  Unfortunately, that pass fell incomplete, as he did not stabilize the position.  That's the main issue with this team.  Yes, they make mistakes, blow their own chances and give up good ones, but every team does every game.  You just can't have an 0.870 save percentage and expect to be good.

Super predictable message board response to the xG data.  Of course wins are what ultimately matter, but the advanced stats aren't meaningless.  They give an indication of how the team is actually playing.  Given equal goaltending and an assumption that bounces eventually even out, it tells you this team is not playing poorly.

Back to 2002, this team is more talented and experienced and is playing better than that team did.  It had four freshmen D who would go on to be great and play in a national title game, but their first year was full of growing pains. 

The only hope here is that DeRidder finds his form.  If he becomes a 0.920 guy, this team can play with and beat anyone 

 

[Oxbow6]

Didn't we go thru this inflated analytics/statistics BS one of the last times UND missed the NCAAs cause Schloss was pounding the relevance of puck possession time?

At this stage Ws are all that matter.

[Godsmack]

15 minutes ago, jk said:

I just completely disagree that the season is over, which I recognize places me in a small group.  I have thought about a comparison to 2001-02 myself though.  It turned out that Andy Kollar was not ready to be a starting goaltender, and Blais brought in Sembieda as a hail Mary.  Unfortunately, that pass fell incomplete, as he did not stabilize the position.  That's the main issue with this team.  Yes, they make mistakes, blow their own chances and give up good ones, but every team does every game.  You just can't have an 0.870 save percentage and expect to be good.

Super predictable message board response to the xG data.  Of course wins are what ultimately matter, but the advanced stats aren't meaningless.  They give an indication of how the team is actually playing.  Given equal goaltending and an assumption that bounces eventually even out, it tells you this team is not playing poorly.

Back to 2002, this team is more talented and experienced and is playing better than that team did.  It had four freshmen D who would go on to be great and play in a national title game, but their first year was full of growing pains. 

The only hope here is that DeRidder finds his form.  If he becomes a 0.920 guy, this team can play with and beat anyone 

Speaking of that season Sembieda came in, if I recall didn’t he show up in time for the GLI and stand on his head and help win it for UND? I feel like that’s my recollection. 

[jk]

3 minutes ago, Godsmack said:

Speaking of that season Sembieda came in, if I recall didn’t he show up in time for the GLI and stand on his head and help win it for UND? I feel like that’s my recollection. 

He didn't just stand on his head, he did all the break dancing moves.  Flying all over the blue paint.  But it was not sustainable, finding yourself too often flat on your back ten feet from the crease. 

[Godsmack]

11 minutes ago, jk said:

He didn't just stand on his head, he did all the break dancing moves.  Flying all over the blue paint.  But it was not sustainable, finding yourself too often flat on your back ten feet from the crease. 

Truth! That acrobatic play may have been the reason that cost Vernon his starting job at CC. Fun and entertaining to watch as a fan but also very inconsistent. 
 

[SiouxScore]

3 hours ago, scpa0305 said:

No way. One bad season doesn’t mean you move on. 

I'm not saying anyone should be fired right now but you could also look at it as 3 bad seasons in his last 6 though. Anytime UND does not make the national tournament with the resources we have it is a bad season.

[brianvf]

1 hour ago, jk said:

Given equal goaltending and an assumption that bounces eventually even out, it tells you this team is not playing poorly.

I think the only series this year that we’ve gotten equal goaltending is the UMN series.  They’re playing poorly (and well) in stretches of each game. The problem is that the poorly played portions of each game have costed them with the losses. 

[siouxfaninseattle]

Good goaltending can win games for a mediocre team. It seems we have the mediocre team part of the equation.

[Hans8891]

 Certainly goaltending needs to improve but this has been a team effort in giving up goals.  I can’t count the number of defensive mistakes -bad passes, lack of hustle getting back, failure to clear the zone, losing puck battles etc. - that have left our goaltenders out to dry.  Goalies have been poor but they are certainly not alone.