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16 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Relative to most on here, yes; therefore, I'll take that as a compliment. 

Despite my track record of predictions on here, most would rather blindly dispute all forms of criticism.

To each their own I guess. 

I appreciate contribution most of the time.  I just don't care for the harshness at times.  The only point I was trying to make was we need a QB every year to develop in the program.  This year could be different with a new scheme.  Based on the interview with Danny the offense will be based on the QB talents.  I hope the talent and scheme mesh well.

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10 hours ago, Hawkster said:

But a Grover or Heidelbaugh type QB is almost worse than nothing, and I remember how hyped people were about H when we first signed him.

I have watched the Zavalney kid play football and basketball and he is very similar to Heidelbahl, however, I would say he has more potential as a WR. Zavalney was also a high school QB, so it is nice to see the staff make him a WR right away and not try to make him a "project" qb. Wouldn't be surprised if he moves over to Defense though. In the signing say special they said he had 14 picks in his Junior and Senior year......even though its small town football thats an impressive stat.

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Contrary to expert opinion here....

We need a HS QB in this class. 

Also, they are very high on Grover. He, Boltmann and Kett will be the 3 battling for the job in spring ball and into fall camp.

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20 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

Nose is still a massive need. We should sign another qb too. 

Back in the day.... 2 QB, 10 linebackers, 10 or 12 front line for both O and D, not sure about the rest... our thought.... Will our kid even get on the field in 5 years at UND...

Deapth is important and I want more than the minimum..... but I have been called greedy or pushy...

read over some other college press releases ( why are Gophers and Bison given top billing over the Sioux in the Herald).... seems like most are 20 to 25 leaving a few spots for Feb. signing... zero from Mary...WI and Iowa seem to recruit aggressively too....

I just love college football...bucket list... be in the Georgia Stadium for a home game!

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12 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

If UND's coaching staff starts regularly taking suggestions from people on this board then UND football is worse off than I thought.  

The UND coaches I know are always looking for a good lead, or at least hockey and softball have appreciated the directions I pointed them.

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To me a signing class should look like a 22 man starting roster. You grab specialists (K, P, LS) when you need them or when they fit.

That's not to say that can't "float" the 22 package year to year, meaning this year might be a base 3-4 defense and a 21 group offense, and next year is a nickel defense and an 11 offense; and the next year is a goal line defense (44 heavy) and a 13 package. Heck, one year may be a dime defense and a heavy, goal line offense. 

But in those year-to-years the fundamentals, the minimums, stay: 5 OL, a QB, 3 DL, 3 LB, a safety. What else is needed, or if it's a strong class for < fill in position here > dictates the rest. 

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5 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

To me a signing class should look like a 22 man starting roster. You grab specialists (K, P, LS) when you need them or when they fit.

That's not to say that can't "float" the 22 package year to year, meaning this year might be a base 3-4 defense and a 21 group offense, and next year is a nickel defense and an 11 offense; and the next year is a goal line defense (44 heavy) and a 13 package. Heck, one year may be a dime defense and a heavy, goal line offense. 

But in those year-to-years the fundamentals, the minimums, stay: 5 OL, a QB, 3 DL, 3 LB, a safety. What else is needed, or if it's a strong class for < fill in position here > dictates the rest. 

sounds legit, but if your going to speak martian can you include a link to the decoder ring?   just kidding, decoder rings are generally over my head too

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All that said, let's look at Bubba's 23 for '19. 

6 OL, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB -- to me the need is there: a QB. Otherwise it's a 21 package. 

3 DL, 4 LB, 4 DB -- looks like a base 34. The question become the mix of DL (a nose) and DB (S v CB). 

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On offense the "21 group" means 2 RB, 1 TE, 2 WR on the field. An 11 group is 1 RB, 1 TE, 3 WR. The WRs brag they are so smart, s-m-r-t, because they don't have to be told their number; they can do math. :silly:

I'm guessing you know 34 or 43 defensive fronts and nickel (5 DB) or dime (6 DB) sets. 

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3 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Don't most guys decommit when they think they've got a shot at going up a tier? (See: Case from FCS --> G5 FBS) 

I would agree. Just throwing the Michigan guy out there.

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3 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Don't most guys decommit when they think they've got a shot at going up a tier? (See: Case from FCS --> G5 FBS) 

I'd say a decommit from the Air Force could be a bit different.  May have just decided he didn't want to go the military route.

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19 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Don't most guys decommit when they think they've got a shot at going up a tier? (See: Case from FCS --> G5 FBS) 

Sometimes for medical reasons or whatever it might be guys don't qualify for military academies. I've seen it a few times. Coach offers, kid accepts and the powers to be turn down admittance due to some standard the the administration is rigid on. 

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1 hour ago, bang said:

Sometimes for medical reasons or whatever it might be guys don't qualify for military academies. I've seen it a few times. Coach offers, kid accepts and the powers to be turn down admittance due to some standard the the administration is rigid on. 

All I know is West Point... but I was told all military academies are the same...

before admission is offered all requirements must be met including medical (ask me about the dental x-rays that showed wisdom teeth... we had to go to a federally approved oral surgeon to have them removed and x-rays before and after were sent to West Point)....

more likely he realized the strict environment and academic standards and didn’t want to commit... think 4 years of basic training with a curriculum of civil engineering.... with all students in the class 4.0!

Football players are not given special privileges either! Too bad he is not coming to UND

GO SIOUX

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32 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

Great to see ZERO write-ups on UND football on the homepage of the gf herald website.  Of course there was one on moo u's transfer from ISU though.

Careful, Kory Wenzel may be reading this forum and will chew you out for making "baseless claims". (sarcasm) :silly:

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15 minutes ago, Mama Sue said:

All I know is West Point... but I was told all military academies are the same...

before admission is offered all requirements must be met including medical (ask me about the dental x-rays that showed wisdom teeth... we had to go to a federally approved oral surgeon to have them removed and x-rays before and after were sent to West Point)....

more likely he realized the strict environment and academic standards and didn’t want to commit... think 4 years of basic training with a curriculum of civil engineering.... with all students in the class 4.0!

Football players are not given special privileges either! Too bad he is not coming to UND

GO SIOUX

I thing you're right he's not coming here but I don't believe he's currently committed to anywhere. 

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5 hours ago, UNDvince97-01 said:

Contrary to expert opinion here....

We need a HS QB in this class. 

Also, they are very high on Grover. He, Boltmann and Kett will be the 3 battling for the job in spring ball and into fall camp.

Who said a HS QB shouldn’t be the focus?

If referring to me, I simply said the focus should be either HS or drop down depending on who is more talented. Why not take the best player? QB position desperately needs a boost. 

Also, Zimmerman has no shot? 

Favorites are Ketteringham and Boltmann. Zimmerman will be in the mix but I’m afraid Grover’s ceiling is 2nd string. 

Very high on Grover? Just like Heidlebaugh and Bolinske? 

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5 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

To me a signing class should look like a 22 man starting roster. You grab specialists (K, P, LS) when you need them or when they fit.

That's not to say that can't "float" the 22 package year to year, meaning this year might be a base 3-4 defense and a 21 group offense, and next year is a nickel defense and an 11 offense; and the next year is a goal line defense (44 heavy) and a 13 package. Heck, one year may be a dime defense and a heavy, goal line offense. 

But in those year-to-years the fundamentals, the minimums, stay: 5 OL, a QB, 3 DL, 3 LB, a safety. What else is needed, or if it's a strong class for < fill in position here > dictates the rest. 

I completely agree with your assessment.

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16 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

the focus should be either HS or drop down depending on who is more talented. Why not take the best player? QB position desperately needs a boost. 

Why is it an either-or?  If a transfer is better than at least 2 QBs currently on the roster, bring him in.  If a HS recruit has potential to start in 3 years, bring him in.  Recruiting, especially at the QB position, needs to consider the future in addition to immediate need.

We need a HS recruit with the potential to start down the road in this class.  1 in the last 4 classes (5 if they punt again this year) is bad for the future of this team.  Coaching staff needs to get it done.

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6 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

Why is it an either-or?  If a transfer is better than at least 2 QBs currently on the roster, bring him in.  If a HS recruit has potential to start in 3 years, bring him in.  Recruiting, especially at the QB position, needs to consider the future in addition to immediate need.

We need a HS recruit with the potential to start down the road in this class.  1 in the last 4 classes (5 if they punt again this year) is bad for the future of this team.  Coaching staff needs to get it done.

Sure, bring in both in such a scenario.

Let’s actually see one first. 

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