Meat man 01 Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 How many other ones think that Bubba and his band of coaches are not ready to take you ND football team up & Beyond division 2 play they will never be able to compete against the bison or other teams if they don't start to play and get better recruits time to move on and build a better team with coaches Quote
Popular Post gfhockey Posted September 9, 2018 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2018 Dude we just played a top ten fbseteam relax 6 Quote
darell1976 Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 3:57 PM, Meat man 01 said: How many other ones think that Bubba and his band of coaches are not ready to take you ND football team up & Beyond division 2 play they will never be able to compete against the bison or other teams if they don't start to play and get better recruits time to move on and build a better team with coaches Expand All because we lost to #9 Washington? Your point is valid if we lose 45-3 to Sam Houston or maybe even a MAC team but we played a power 5 conference title favorite, sorry but the likes of the Bison or SDSU is not on the same level as Washington. 3 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 Defensive staff has my vote of confidence offensive staff starting with Rudolph is a joke special teams ... blah 3 Quote
darell1976 Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 4:10 PM, UND-FB-FAN said: Defensive staff has my vote of confidence offensive staff starting with Rudolph is a joke special teams ... blah Expand Whoa wait a minute....we have special teams? Quote
Popular Post Irish Posted September 9, 2018 Popular Post Posted September 9, 2018 - I'm not reading this as a reaction to losing to Washington. This is Bubba's fifth year and a legit question. What we have learned so far this year is that Bubba is Bubba and probably will not change a lot. So .... can we take the next step? Pro's - stopped the sideline dancing and has instilled a better work ethic, worked hard to improve the game day experience. Other than last year has generally improved the defense. Tied for a Big Sky conf. Championship - has recruited some talented players. Cons - Has given us perhaps the worst O coordinator I have seen in my 50 years as a fan and refuses to change. Immediately after winning the Big Sky, pisses away our first home playoff game in ages with perhaps the worst overall coaching job I have ever seen in the second half of the game. Failure to adequately recruit the QB position - Studs was a gamer for sure and one tough cookie but still - last year we had a 4th year starter who couldn't throw downfield, locked on to a receiver, and had trouble throwing a screen pass. We need a good QB recruit every year. Has not shown the ability to recruit and keep O linemen - In a Bubbaworld O linemen are the key to our team. Has not recruited talented receivers (we had better skills here during our D-2 days) - Has shown almost no ability to adjust in general, but especially during the game. Special teams are pathetic - our lack of coverage is frustrating and lack of kickers may be a season breaker. In summary - when we evaluate Bubba we need to take his assistants too as he has shown he will never make changes. He will always remain the guy who thinks "if we punt from here we can really put them back". In my mind it's playoffs or bust this year. 1 4 Quote
shep Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 I read the first post in this thread and could not possibly take this seriously. Quote
Hawkster Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 4:50 PM, Irish said: - I'm not reading this as a reaction to losing to Washington. This is Bubba's fifth year and a legit question. What we have learned so far this year is that Bubba is Bubba and probably will not change a lot. So .... can we take the next step? Pro's - stopped the sideline dancing and has instilled a better work ethic, worked hard to improve the game day experience. Other than last year has generally improved the defense. Tied for a Big Sky conf. Championship - has recruited some talented players. Cons - Has given us perhaps the worst O coordinator I have seen in my 50 years as a fan and refuses to change. Immediately after winning the Big Sky, pisses away our first home playoff game in ages with perhaps the worst overall coaching job I have ever seen in the second half of the game. Failure to adequately recruit the QB position - Studs was a gamer for sure and one tough cookie but still - last year we had a 4th year starter who couldn't throw downfield, locked on to a receiver, and had trouble throwing a screen pass. We need a good QB recruit every year. Has not shown the ability to recruit and keep O linemen - In a Bubbaworld O linemen are the key to our team. Has not recruited talented receivers (we had better skills here during our D-2 days) - Has shown almost no ability to adjust in general, but especially during the game. Special teams are pathetic - our lack of coverage is frustrating and lack of kickers may be a season breaker. In summary - when we evaluate Bubba we need to take his assistants too as he has shown he will never make changes. He will always remain the guy who thinks "if we punt from here we can really put them back". In my mind it's playoffs or bust this year. Expand You nailed it. I fully agree, Bubba absolutely can't recruit. Muss, for all his problems got better players to come here. A couple months ago I blasted for being too negative about Bubba's lack of quality commits, but the lack of success is very apparent. Playoffs or bust is right, but I really think by this stage of the game we should have the expectations of a playoff win as well. 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 5:43 PM, Hawkster said: You nailed it. I fully agree, Bubba absolutely can't recruit. Muss, for all his problems got better players to come here. A couple months ago I blasted for being too negative about Bubba's lack of quality commits, but the lack of success is very apparent. Playoffs or bust is right, but I really think by this stage of the game we should have the expectations of a playoff win as well. Expand Mussman had some high end guys mixed in with some flunkies. We had no depth at a lot of spots under him. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 5:50 PM, geaux_sioux said: Mussman had some high end guys mixed in with some flunkies. We had no depth at a lot of spots under him. Expand And the team culture was awful. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 5:52 PM, UNDBIZ said: And the team culture was awful. Expand Yup, lots of selfish divas who thought they were bigger than the program. Not all, but enough to ruin things. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 5:54 PM, sioux24/7 said: I like Freund Expand Literally everyone like him. He’s a great guy. Quote
Kab Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 I think as we start to get better recruits others will follow, Bubba is trying to weed out the bad ones before they get here dont need that culture here Quote
Hawkster Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 5:52 PM, UNDBIZ said: And the team culture was awful. Expand Well I didn't say he was a good coach, I just stated that Muss did indeed attract some very quality players to this program and was better at recruiting then Bubba. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted September 9, 2018 Posted September 9, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 6:21 PM, Hawkster said: Well I didn't say he was a good coach, I just stated that Muss did indeed attract some very quality players to this program and was better at recruiting then Bubba. Expand I disagree. The few home runs he smashed allow some to forget about the many strikeouts. 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 6:46 PM, geaux_sioux said: I disagree. The few home runs he smashed allow some to forget about the many strikeouts. Expand Recruiting was and has been iffy for both. UND would have a playoff win by now if either could recruit top end players. Quote
bincitysioux Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 3:57 PM, Meat man 01 said: How many other ones think that Bubba and his band of coaches are not ready to take you ND football team up & Beyond division 2 play they will never be able to compete against the bison or other teams if they don't start to play and get better recruits time to move on and build a better team with coaches Expand Champions in one of the best FCS conferences in Year #3..........… Quote
shep Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 3:34 AM, bincitysioux said: Champions in one of the best FCS conferences in Year #3..........… Expand Sorry, but this thread is for those who do NOT want to see any good signs about Bubba and who actually hope this season sucks so there's an excuse to fire him. Que the "horrible 2nd half loss to Richmond" reminders in 3...2...1 Quote
MafiaMan Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/9/2018 at 4:06 PM, gfhockey said: Dude we just played a top ten fbseteam relax Expand I need to save this post for when the hockey team plays a top ten team on the road and loses... Quote
Popular Post shep Posted September 10, 2018 Popular Post Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 12:26 PM, MafiaMan said: I need to save this post for when the hockey team plays a top ten team on the road and loses... Expand Hello apples...this is oranges...nice to meet you. 1 4 Quote
MafiaMan Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 12:27 PM, shep said: Hello apples...this is oranges...nice to meet you. Expand gfhockey lost his damn mind when the hockey team lost a mid-season exhibition game a few years ago...yet he preaches more patience with Bubba? Talk about North Dakota nice... Quote
ND1 Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 The hockey team plays in the “FBS” division of hockey, the football doesn’t 1 Quote
gfhockey Posted September 10, 2018 Posted September 10, 2018 On 9/10/2018 at 12:26 PM, MafiaMan said: I need to save this post for when the hockey team plays a top ten team on the road and loses... Expand But we are in the same division as the top ten hockey team? 1 Quote
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