Coach Jones?

[fightingsioux4life]

5 hours ago, nodak651 said:

Really?  Big Sky Basketball is one of the worst conferences in the country.  Right now it's ranked 29th of 32.

I still think it is stronger than the Great West FB conference was when we were in it.

[hoops44]

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On 1/3/2017 at 11:35 AM, hoops44 said:

If Jones had zero % chance of coaching next season any half wit would know that he would have been canned by now....If by chance UND gets a BSC title or NCAA bid seriously doubt he gets canned...

Well, no chance of either of those things happening.....

[The Sicatoka]

Hoops: 

Pro tip for you -- If you want to quote a post you don't copy and paste. You click the "Quote" in the bottom of the post you want to quote; and then you type below that. 

 

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[fightingsioux4life]

I am thrilled that the MBB team has had so much success this year, but anyone who says they saw it coming are not being totally honest. This is the first Jones coached team to really fulfill their potential.

[The Sicatoka]

Quinton Hooker is a guy I'd love to see hang around this program for a while. 

http://admin.inforum.com/sports/4186413-how-quinton-hooker-became-one-unds-all-time-greats

[geaux_sioux]

Takes him 11 years to figure it out? Yea, he's a keeper all right.

[hoops44]

and you 

6 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Takes him 11 years to figure it out? Yea, he's a keeper all right.

some people never figure out how to make an intelligent post

[UND-FB-FAN]

9 minutes ago, hoops44 said:

and you 

some people never figure out how to make an intelligent post

This is the first regular season Big Sky Conference title for a Brian Jones' team (1 out of 5; 20%). A Brian Jones' team has yet to win the Big Sky Conference tournament (0 out of 4; 0%). Can Brian Jones' program maintain the success, even into next week? Just facts and logical inquiry, @hoops44

There is no reason for harsh comments; if you can't debate, leave it at that.

[The Sicatoka]

7 minutes ago, hoops44 said:

some people never figure out how to make an intelligent post

Oh how so indeed. 

 

(I'm pretty sure I pegged the snark-o-meter there. 

[hoops44]

21 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

This is the first regular season Big Sky Conference title for a Brian Jones' team (1 out of 5; 20%). A Brian Jones' team has yet to win the Big Sky Conference tournament (0 out of 4; 0%). Can Brian Jones' program maintain the success, even into next week? Just facts and logical inquiry, @hoops44

There is no reason for harsh comments; if you can't debate, leave it at that.

big deal lowest paid coach in league ...Only BSC school where mens hoops is the distant 2nd string winter sport... Amazing to win the title Ever ..Figuring things out has nothing to do with winning a conference championship if that was the case the same coach would win every year.. Rahe at Weber gets 350K Mens Hoops is the the schools Signature Sport.  Their arena holds 13k fans.... They should win almost every year... UND winning is unbelievable ...how often does lowest paid coach win the Title.... With Jones UND basketball has ALWAYS got more out than they put in.  Lowest Paid coach ...Never Finished Last

[UND-FB-FAN]

9 minutes ago, hoops44 said:

big deal lowest paid coach in league ...Only BSC school where mens hoops is the distant 2nd string winter sport... Amazing to win the title Ever ..Figuring things out has nothing to do with winning a conference championship if that was the case the same coach would win every year

So UND should fire Jones and hire a coach worth 150 to 200k per season? If Jones continues to win, I'm obviously fine with him continuing to lead UND men's basketball. However, to your point, if UND goes on another stretch of unaccomplishment, then UND needs to hire someone valued at the "Big Sky level". 

[geaux_sioux]

9 minutes ago, hoops44 said:

big deal lowest paid coach in league ...Only BSC school where mens hoops is the distant 2nd string winter sport... Amazing to win the title Ever ..Figuring things out has nothing to do with winning a conference championship if that was the case the same coach would win every year

He's not unsuccessful because he's not paid well. He's not paid well because he's unsuccessful.

[hoops44]

2 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

So UND should fire Jones and hire a coach worth 150 to 200k per season? 

Of course any body knows ....you get out what you put in

[hoops44]

UND wants a BSC Championship level program find a coach worth 400k a year and pay him...Then if they do not win a title...you can complain all you want without sounding like a total idiot

[UND-FB-FAN]

25 minutes ago, hoops44 said:

big deal lowest paid coach in league ...Only BSC school where mens hoops is the distant 2nd string winter sport... Amazing to win the title Ever ..Figuring things out has nothing to do with winning a conference championship if that was the case the same coach would win every year.. Rahe at Weber gets 350K Mens Hoops is the the schools Signature Sport.  Their arena holds 13k fans.... They should win almost every year... UND winning is unbelievable ...how often does lowest paid coach win the Title.... With Jones UND basketball has ALWAYS got more out than they put in.  Lowest Paid coach ...Never Finished Last

Well, in the past 5 seasons, Weber State and Rahe have done well (2 out of 5 [40%] seasons both regular season and conference tournament champions). With that said, he won the conference regular season and conference tournament his first season (2006-2007) which set the table for his tenure and salary. Jones' program did not win the BSC regular season until his fifth try.

[UND-FB-FAN]

2 minutes ago, hoops44 said:

UND wants a BSC Championship level program find a coach worth 400k a year and pay him...Then if they do not win a title...you can complain all you want without sounding like a total idiot

400k? That's over a 4-fold increase; makes little sense to quadruple the salary when one could remove the "less valued" and hire with double the salary. Also, quadrupling the salary is not plausible. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

11 minutes ago, hoops44 said:

UND wants a BSC Championship level program find a coach worth 400k a year and pay him...Then if they do not win a title...you can complain all you want without sounding like a total idiot

Value hire: Half the price for twice the coach; this also exists in reality, @hoops44

It explains why low level coaches get hired by bigger institutions: salary obviously does not always represent ability. There are many factors besides salary to consider.

 

[hoops44]

2 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

400k? That's over a 4-fold increase; makes little sense to quadruple the salary when one could remove the "less valued" and hire with double the salary. Also, quadrupling the salary is not plausible. 

What does the mens Hockey coach make....Webers coach make 350K...You want the best program get the best coach!!!   Sell out the Betty ...raise ticket prices, Build a new arena and become the Gonzaga of the Summit ....than maybe the chronic cry babies will be pacified

[cberkas]

3 minutes ago, hoops44 said:

What does the mens Hockey coach make....Webers coach make 350K...You want the best program get the best coach!!!   Sell out the Betty ...raise ticket prices, Build a new arena and become the Gonzaga of the Summit ....than maybe the chronic cry babies will be pacified

Berry's contract is maxed after winning a National Title last year, I think it's 400,000. Some of that might go to Jackson and Shaw, or they have a separate contract for them.

[darell1976]

20 minutes ago, hoops44 said:

UND wants a BSC Championship level program find a coach worth 400k a year and pay him...Then if they do not win a title...you can complain all you want without sounding like a total idiot

400k?? Weber may pay their coach close to that because to Weber basketball is their #1 sport. Men's basketball is roughly in the 3 to 4 spot battling with women's basketball.

Jones has 19 wins this season the most since the 2010-11 season, 14 conference wins the most ever, so this is the greatest season (SINGULAR) ever in his 11th seasons at UND. He loses one of the greatest players ever to be at UND, will the team keep up the same hype next season? I think for winning the regular season give him a one year extension. Make it to the dance and extend his contract to include his first season into the Summit League. I would think UND, if given an extension, would give him a raise for winning the conference. No way its 400k, or else give Bubba a salary like Nick Saban for the job he did turning the football program around. 

[hoops44]

10 minutes ago, darell1976 said:

400k?? Weber may pay their coach close to that because to Weber basketball is their #1 sport. Men's basketball is roughly in the 3 to 4 spot battling with women's basketball.

Jones has 19 wins this season the most since the 2010-11 season, 14 conference wins the most ever, so this is the greatest season (SINGULAR) ever in his 11th seasons at UND. He loses one of the greatest players ever to be at UND, will the team keep up the same hype next season? I think for winning the regular season give him a one year extension. Make it to the dance and extend his contract to include his first season into the Summit League. I would think UND, if given an extension, would give him a raise for winning the conference. No way its 400k, or else give Bubba a salary like Nick Saban for the job he did turning the football program around. 

recruits love it when the coach recruiting them has one year left...outstanding idea darell

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

Quinton Hooker is a guy I'd love to see hang around this program for a while. 

http://admin.inforum.com/sports/4186413-how-quinton-hooker-became-one-unds-all-time-greats

Hooker has been a gift to UND. My grandson Quinton had a picture with Quinton Hooker yesterday.

[darell1976]

29 minutes ago, hoops44 said:

recruits love it when the coach recruiting them has one year left...outstanding idea darell

We saw what happened when Muss got his extension and Faison had enough and bought him out. He doesn't want a repeat. Also you say recruits don't like one year contracts but yet thats what they have in South Dakota and how many dance trips did SDSU have?

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

1 hour ago, hoops44 said:

UND wants a BSC Championship level program find a coach worth 400k a year and pay him...Then if they do not win a title...you can complain all you want without sounding like a total idiot

UND just received (worked for) 4 BSC Championships. Now, did that with around $400000 in 4 head coach salaries: VB, FB, WBB, MBB. Don't need to pay one coach $400,000. Coaches are now/should getting their raises for accomplishments, would assume Jones will also, even with our challenging budget finances.

[dmksioux]

27 minutes ago, darell1976 said:

We saw what happened when Muss got his extension and Faison had enough and bought him out. He doesn't want a repeat. Also you say recruits don't like one year contracts but yet thats what they have in South Dakota and how many dance trips did SDSU have?

Pretty sure South Dakota legislature got that changes a few years back.

edit:. Looks like it changed last year.  https://apnews.com/7d80c3e698824029b7be3dcaa7d28b2e