Former Players

[Siouxperman8]

Just saw that former UND OL Paul Sturdevant passed away suddenly on Sunday at 63.  Sturdy played in the early '80's and was a great guy who was quick to laugh and to get a laugh out of others too.   He had coached the OL at Perham hs for a number of years.  

Rest in peace Sturdy. 

https://www.schoenebergerfuneralhome.com/obituaries/paul-sturdevant 

[78 und grad]

On 3/7/2016 at 5:57 PM, dmksioux said:

Will he be the next Jimmy Kleinsasser for the Vikings??

Be nice if he could be. I doubt we’ll see another jimmy kleinsasser in the near future. A freak of nature. Go sioux

[F'n Hawks]

 

[geaux_sioux]

When he transferred there I figured he’d end up drafted. Wonder if his stock would have been higher had he stayed? It’s legitimately possible.

[Brim006]

I haven't seen a peep about Bo during or after the draft, so it must be safe to say he doesn't even have a shot at a practice squad or anything at this point? Despite UND being mediocre since the move to FCS, it's actually quite surprising how few NFL players they have produced just solely due to playing in the MV and BS before that. 1 OL draftee who was through and through UND the whole way in the past 10-15 years? Hopefully I'm missing some... Woof

Hopefully the development process improvement is as big as the winning culture improvement is with the new coaching staff. It would be exciting to see a guy get drafted at least once in a great while. Or signed afterwards. Some other MV teams are getting more guys drafted in a single day than UND has in the past 2 decades. Bo was debatably one of the best UND players in the past 5-10 years and he doesn't even get interest? Only up to go from here for Schmidt and the boys!  

[geaux_sioux]

13 minutes ago, Brim006 said:

I haven't seen a peep about Bo during or after the draft, so it must be safe to say he doesn't even have a shot at a practice squad or anything at this point? Despite UND being mediocre since the move to FCS, it's actually quite surprising how few NFL players they have produced just solely due to playing in the MV and BS before that. 1 OL draftee who was through and through UND the whole way in the past 10-15 years? Hopefully I'm missing some... Woof

Hopefully the development process improvement is as big as the winning culture improvement is with the new coaching staff. It would be exciting to see a guy get drafted at least once in a great while. Or signed afterwards. Some other MV teams are getting more guys drafted in a single day than UND has in the past 2 decades. Bo was debatably one of the best UND players in the past 5-10 years and he doesn't even get interest? Only up to go from here for Schmidt and the boys!  

Bo is too slow for the NFL to look at him seriously. The list of NFL pros since Kuper is Kenny G and Matt W. Some guys like Hardin and Rattelle had opportunities but no other guys really even having a good look. In other words, we somehow always punch above our weight. We’ll see how Kilty does. We need more guys making it and obviously need to recruit better athletes in general.

[Brim006]

2 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Bo is too slow for the NFL to look at him seriously. The list of NFL pros since Kuper is Kenny G and Matt W. Some guys like Hardin and Rattelle had opportunities but no other guys really even having a good look. In other words, we somehow always punch above our weight. We’ll see how Kilty does. We need more guys making it and obviously need to recruit better athletes in general.

That's a bummer for Bo, I was optimistically thinking he would at least sneak onto a PS somewhere. 

I didn't count Kenny G. since he transferred to NIU after UND. But the other guys in that bucket would include Kyle Hergel and Kilty too. Before that I think we have to go all the way back to around 2004-2005 for Chris Kuper. Crazy

Nice to see UND winning some of the recruiting battles that they would've been losing in the recent past though. That is a small step in the right direction! 

[forksandspoons]

3 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Bo is too slow for the NFL to look at him seriously. The list of NFL pros since Kuper is Kenny G and Matt W. Some guys like Hardin and Rattelle had opportunities but no other guys really even having a good look. In other words, we somehow always punch above our weight. We’ll see how Kilty does. We need more guys making it and obviously need to recruit better athletes in general.

Toivonen and Maag had NFL opportunities as well. Both awesome players, but Bo is a better WR than both. Just doesn’t have the measurables, unfortunately. 

 

Not sure if we can count Kyle Hergel haha 

[geaux_sioux]

5 minutes ago, Brim006 said:

That's a bummer for Bo, I was optimistically thinking he would at least sneak onto a PS somewhere. 

I didn't count Kenny G. since he transferred to NIU after UND. But the other guys in that bucket would include Kyle Hergel and Kilty too. Before that I think we have to go all the way back to around 2004-2005 for Chris Kuper. Crazy

Nice to see UND winning some of the recruiting battles that they would've been losing in the recent past though. That is a small step in the right direction! 

I count Kenny because we were his only opportunity. Forgot about Hergel. Either way. It’s a crazy short list and it’s gotta change. 

[Brim006]

1 minute ago, forksandspoons said:

Toivonen and Maag had NFL opportunities as well. Both awesome players, but Bo is a better WR than both. Just doesn’t have the measurables, unfortunately. 

 

Not sure if we can count Kyle Hergel haha 

Ah yes, I forgot about Toivonen and Maag. I recall Toivonen getting some playing time and even a few catches in pre-season games. His body type got him the opportunity and he did quite well with his opportunity, but it still wasn't enough for a roster shot unfortunately due to a pretty stacked roster that year. 

Still pretty wild that quite a few local NSIC D2 teams have been producing comparable numbers of NFL talent as UND. Mankato, Augustana, UMD, and even the late St. Cloud team had a few recently. Mankato likely the most impressive list since 2010 in Thielen, Chris Reed and Shane Zylstra who all had/have substantial playing time holding starting positions for multiple years. Hell even lowly late UMC had a kid who played there for 2 years before they folded and he transfered to NDSU and is still playing in the NFL (Mason Miller). 

[fightingsioux4life]

7 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

I count Kenny because we were his only opportunity. Forgot about Hergel. Either way. It’s a crazy short list and it’s gotta change. 

I believe it will in the next several years.

[Brim006]

12 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

I count Kenny because we were his only opportunity. Forgot about Hergel. Either way. It’s a crazy short list and it’s gotta change. 

Agreed. Statistically speaking, playing middle of the road ball in the MV and BS for as many years as UND has, they should have had at least twice as many as they have. So even without improvements they would've been bound to have more in the future just by the laws data playing at that level and conference. But with improvements added into the mix as well, I think UND is about to see it happening much more often. 

[sioux24/7]

Wasn’t there another OL that had an opportunity with the Cowboys? Think he transferred here from a D2. Can’t remember the name. 

[gundy1124]

17 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said:

Wasn’t there another OL that had an opportunity with the Cowboys? Think he transferred here from a D2. Can’t remember the name. 

Michael Coe

[Nodak78]

The transfer from UNI made the PS.  Maybe the roster for a short time.  Ge made his mark at UND.  Very little playing time at UNI.

[Sioux94]

I had been thinking the same thing this weekend during the draft as many others, as to our lack of drafted.  NDSU seems to have an OL drafted every year or every other year. And the most important position in all of sports, QB, NDSU has had twice as many at that one position get drafted or made rosters on NFL teams than UND has at all positions. Not good.

[SIOUXFAN97]

15 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

I had been thinking the same thing this weekend during the draft as many others, as to our lack of drafted.  NDSU seems to have an OL drafted every year or every other year. And the most important position in all of sports, QB, NDSU has had twice as many at that one position get drafted or made rosters on NFL teams than UND has at all positions. Not good.

i would refrain from using the word "quarterback' and "mr trey" in the same sentence......

[Sioux94]

13 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

i would refrain from using the word "quarterback' and "mr trey" in the same sentence......

He still got drafted in top 5 and was a better college QB than UND has likely ever had, his numbers in that one season were impressive and he looked impressive.  Easily better than any QB we have on our roster right now. 

[Sioux94]

18 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

i would refrain from using the word "quarterback' and "mr trey" in the same sentence......

Since you coined the term Mattress Cam, who just got drafted by the NFL, and also said Jerry should have been the starter over Tommy his redshirt season, but then Jerry couldn't even beat out Simon. A QB analyst you are not. 

[SiouxBoys]

8 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

Since you coined the term Mattress Cam, who just got drafted by the NFL, and also said Jerry should have been the starter over Tommy his redshirt season, but then Jerry couldn't even beat out Simon. A QB analyst you are not. 

But he rode his bike by a practice one time?

[SIOUXFAN97]

2 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

He still got drafted in top 5 and was a better college QB than UND has likely ever had, his numbers in that one season were impressive and he looked impressive.  Easily better than any QB we have on our roster right now. 

two words

je  rry

[SIOUXFAN97]

29 minutes ago, Sioux94 said:

Since you coined the term Mattress Cam, who just got drafted by the NFL, and also said Jerry should have been the starter over Tommy his redshirt season, but then Jerry couldn't even beat out Simon. A QB analyst you are not. 

i would refrain from using "quarterback" and "simon" in the same sentence (and heck tommy two gloves) ESPECIALLY after lamenting about the lack of talent at UND in the last 10 years...have some awareness.

[Hawkster]

1 hour ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

i would refrain from using the word "quarterback' and "mr trey" in the same sentence......

Lance and Stick at least signed with teams for the coming year, albeit as backups.    Wentz can't even get a team.   Lance always struck me as a good QB, he just should have stayed in college longer and matured.      We'll see how good Miller is.  I highly doubt any of them ever start another game.

[SIOUXFAN97]

3 minutes ago, Hawkster said:

Lance and Stick at least signed with teams for the coming year, albeit as backups.    Wentz can't even get a team.   Lance always struck me as a good QB, he just should have stayed in college longer and matured.      We'll see how good Miller is.

if both stick and mr trey would give up the idea that they are nfl talent there is a league up north that they could've "grown" with (like warren moon)...and then try to come to the nfl....too late for the mouth breather but mr trey is probably only 24 but he would have stick his tail bt his legs and move to saskatoon or prince edward island...which he aint doing.

[SIOUXFAN97]

5 minutes ago, Hawkster said:

Lance and Stick at least signed with teams for the coming year, albeit as backups.    Wentz can't even get a team.   Lance always struck me as a good QB, he just should have stayed in college longer and matured.      We'll see how good Miller is.

miller sucks...botton line