petey23 Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 Got my email this morning. Will be voting Fighting Hawks again. Not that I am in love with it, but it is the lesser of 3 evils and as I have said before not very likely that this will be a long term name for UND(none of the remaining will be). It is generic but has some good logo and mascot potential and is the only one of the 3 with any potential to garner any long term additional revenue for UND through apparel and merchandise sales which is good for UND and good for me and the company I work for.If Nodaks or Roughriders are chosen you will get a lukewarm at best response from the current students which will feed down to the future students and young people in the area and across the state. I believe alum will continue to buy the same merchandise and apparel available to them now and slapping the new name on an item will not motivate someone who is a Fighting Sioux alumni to purchase an item with a name on it that has no meaning to them.Don't like Roughriders as to me it is a "western" based name and a local high school already has the name and I have never liked the name to start with. That said, I could live with the name but would rather not.Nodaks is terrible unless we are planning on going D3, moving Twamley to East Grand Forks and joining the MIAC. 1 Quote
OgioloD Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 Got my email this morning. Will be voting Fighting Hawks again. Not that I am in love with it, but it is the lesser of 3 evils and as I have said before not very likely that this will be a long term name for UND(none of the remaining will be). It is generic but has some good logo and mascot potential and is the only one of the 3 with any potential to garner any long term additional revenue for UND through apparel and merchandise sales which is good for UND and good for me and the company I work for.If Nodaks or Roughriders are chosen you will get a lukewarm at best response from the current students which will feed down to the future students and young people in the area and across the state. I believe alum will continue to buy the same merchandise and apparel available to them now and slapping the new name on an item will not motivate someone who is a Fighting Sioux alumni to purchase an item with a name on it that has no meaning to them.Don't like Roughriders as to me it is a "western" based name and a local high school already has the name and I have never liked the name to start with. That said, I could live with the name but would rather not.Nodaks is terrible unless we are planning on going D3, moving Twamley to East Grand Forks and joining the MIAC.No one outside of GF will know or give a crap that a local high school is RR. With that said, anything but Hawks #43. 2 Quote
petey23 Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 No one outside of GF will know or give a crap that a local high school is RR. With that said, anything but Hawks #43.Except me I guess....but just one of a few reasons I don't like it. 1 Quote
UNDhoops Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 sure hope you're right about this being temporary, Petey. I could learn to like Roughriders or Nodaks but I think they left a lot of potentially good nicknames on the cutting room floor Quote
Popular Post Siouxperfan7 Posted November 2, 2015 Popular Post Posted November 2, 2015 as I have said before not very likely that this will be a long term name for UND(none of the remaining will be). sure hope you're right about this being temporary, Petey. I could learn to like Roughriders or Nodaks but I think they left a lot of potentially good nicknames on the cutting room floorHate to state the obvious, but the name that is chosen between these 3 will be the name that UND will be known as. They are not going to repeat this process again because people refuse to transition, or are to stubborn to accept change. Hate the names, hate the process, hate the reason we are going through this whole process, but this name is going to be the name for a very long time. That is why everyone that votes must really look at all 3 names and decide on a name that is best for UND. 5 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 Got my email this morning. Will be voting Fighting Hawks again. Not that I am in love with it, but it is the lesser of 3 evils and as I have said before not very likely that this will be a long term name for UND(none of the remaining will be). It is generic but has some good logo and mascot potential and is the only one of the 3 with any potential to garner any long term additional revenue for UND through apparel and merchandise sales which is good for UND and good for me and the company I work for.If Nodaks or Roughriders are chosen you will get a lukewarm at best response from the current students which will feed down to the future students and young people in the area and across the state. I believe alum will continue to buy the same merchandise and apparel available to them now and slapping the new name on an item will not motivate someone who is a Fighting Sioux alumni to purchase an item with a name on it that has no meaning to them.Don't like Roughriders as to me it is a "western" based name and a local high school already has the name and I have never liked the name to start with. That said, I could live with the name but would rather not.Nodaks is terrible unless we are planning on going D3, moving Twamley to East Grand Forks and joining the MIAC.im pretty sure that a large majority of the 400 collegiate teams named _____ hawks are d2, d3, or naia...zero teams named nodaks or roughridersjust saying Quote
SiouxVolley Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 Got my email this morning. Will be voting Fighting Hawks again. Not that I am in love with it, but it is the lesser of 3 evils and as I have said before not very likely that this will be a long term name for UND(none of the remaining will be). It is generic but has some good logo and mascot potential and is the only one of the 3 with any potential to garner any long term additional revenue for UND through apparel and merchandise sales which is good for UND and good for me and the company I work for.If Nodaks or Roughriders are chosen you will get a lukewarm at best response from the current students which will feed down to the future students and young people in the area and across the state. I believe alum will continue to buy the same merchandise and apparel available to them now and slapping the new name on an item will not motivate someone who is a Fighting Sioux alumni to purchase an item with a name on it that has no meaning to them.Don't like Roughriders as to me it is a "western" based name and a local high school already has the name and I have never liked the name to start with. That said, I could live with the name but would rather not.Nodaks is terrible unless we are planning on going D3, moving Twamley to East Grand Forks and joining the MIAC.So you want to one up Dickinson St with their Blue Hawks? Wouldn't even be the second university in the state with that NAIA name. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 Google Fighting Hawks in images It has the most logo potential, IMO. The logo makes or breaks this. If a top-notch, unique logo is produced, it will go over more smoothly. Plus, it is representative of the state, again, IMO.I'm voting Fighting Hawks. 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 It has the most logo potential, IMO. The logo makes or breaks this. If a top-notch, unique logo is produced, it will go over more smoothly. Plus, it is representative of the state, again, IMO.I'm voting Fighting Hawks.so said the last 50 schools that adopted a bird as a mascot and logo....someone load the ______ hawk gif please! 2 Quote
SiouxVolley Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 It has the most logo potential, IMO. The logo makes or breaks this. If a top-notch, unique logo is produced, it will go over more smoothly. Plus, it is representative of the state, again, IMO.I'm voting Fighting Hawks.When this process started, a nickname and logo that were uniquely North Dakota were promised.Placing Fighting Hawks on the ballot makes that promise a lie. 1 Quote
UNDBIZ Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 Just curious, what kind of hawk is that? Quote
petey23 Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 Hate to state the obvious, but the name that is chosen between these 3 will be the name that UND will be known as. They are not going to repeat this process again because people refuse to transition, or are to stubborn to accept change. Hate the names, hate the process, hate the reason we are going through this whole process, but this name is going to be the name for a very long time. That is why everyone that votes must really look at all 3 names and decide on a name that is best for UND.I disagree. 10 years tops Quote
petey23 Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 im pretty sure that a large majority of the 400 collegiate teams named _____ hawks are d2, d3, or naia...zero teams named nodaks or roughridersjust sayingmaybe there is a reason for that? Just saying. 1 Quote
petey23 Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 So you want to one up Dickinson St with their Blue Hawks? Wouldn't even be the second university in the state with that NAIA name.Want to? No.But with the choices remaining it wins by default. Quote
Fetch Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) Pretty sure red tailed hawk Edited November 2, 2015 by Fetch Quote
obborg Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 The logo makes or breaks this. And if Hawks or Riders wins we are all at the mercy of an already untrusted leadership to somehow produce a logo that's good enough to elevate a mediocre nickname to greatness.Nodaks, on the other hand already has a built-in logo, the interlocked ND. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 And if Hawks or Riders wins we are all at the mercy of an already untrusted leadership to somehow produce a logo that's good enough to elevate a mediocre nickname to greatness.Nodaks, on the other hand already has a built-in logo, the interlocked ND.That's too conservative for me.Yes, that interlocking ND logo already is in place, but why not look to improve UND's marketing situation, rather than be complacent and accept what's already in place. I for one am curious to see what could be produced to further expand UND athletics branding. If done correctly, a unique hawk logo could gain support. I'd buy apparel sporting a new unique UND hawk logo. Why not? Quote
petey23 Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 And if Hawks or Riders wins we are all at the mercy of an already untrusted leadership to somehow produce a logo that's good enough to elevate a mediocre nickname to greatness.Nodaks, on the other hand already has a built-in logo, the interlocked ND.Which we already use and it adds no additional revenue stream to UND and actually could take away from it. If you have the interlocking ND, UND, or The University of North Dakota myself and many alumni already buy and would continue to buy those items....if you add in Nodaks=no sale. I don't like any of the names but voted for Hawks as that is the only name with a chance of having UND benefit from branded Apparel and Merchandise sales on an ongoing basis. Alum aren't likely to by any of the 3 remaining names on apparel but will continue to buy UND gear while I think students will buy Hawk apparel but would purchase very little of Nodak or RR apparel. 1 Quote
obborg Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 By far the greatest factor in merchandise sales is success in the athletic arena. Quote
Hayduke Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 And if Hawks or Riders wins we are all at the mercy of an already untrusted leadership to somehow produce a logo that's good enough to elevate a mediocre nickname to greatness.Nodaks, on the other hand already has a built-in logo, the interlocked ND.Nope. The Nodak mascot would be some rube, hick or yokel scratching his fat belly with a grin showing off his one remaining tooth. Won't that be awesome.... Quote
obborg Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 The Nodak mascot would be some rube, hick or yokel scratching his fat belly with a grin showing off his one remaining tooth. Those images are being created by your imagination. 1 Quote
Sodacker Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 Voting for a name cause it will sell a few t shirts is about as bad a reason as voting for it because the logo will look cooler when no official logo designs have been released. 1 Quote
choyt3 Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 Just curious, what kind of hawk is that? It's obviously a "Fighting Hawk". duh Quote
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