hoops44 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 The only thing extreme is the worthless drivel that Jones should be fired last season ...Worthless drivel proven wrong.... I was right! Extremely stupid to use overall records for a Low D1 team that plays mostly road games in NC. schedule thank goodness the people in charge at UND are not stupid enough to use that as a criteria,...Again I was right...Extremely Stupid to think a team with the lowest paid coaches by far in the league will be a top team every year.... No law against people making dumb posts, being wrong year after and making the same dumb post again... Definition of Insanity.... ExtreUND is picked 8th and 10th in the preseason polls, if that gives you an idea. I could see them making a mini-run to finish in Top 5 or so. Don't think they got the fire power to win it or anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Hey hoops were you right? You're so smrt. Anyways, so because he is the lowest paid coach means he shouldn't win games? I don't think he has done anything to deserve a pay raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Now we just need FS4L to come in and say we should just go to NAIA, then Darrel to reply with a fire Jones, and Fetch to talk about getting an AHL hockey team named the Fighting Sioux and we've covered all our bases. Nice cheap shot there buddy. Sometimes, the truth hurts, and the truth is that (outside of men's and women's hockey) our other programs (with a few exceptions) have underperformed compared to NDSU, a very similar institution to UND and with some of the same challenges (climate, geography, one-bid conference). The key is leadership and vision or lack thereof. NDSU has had that over the last 10 years and UND has not. We have a lot of work to do in several areas and to deny this is pure ostrich behavior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Hey hoops were you right? You're so smrt. Anyways, so because he is the lowest paid coach means he shouldn't win games? I don't think he has done anything to deserve a pay raise.Agreed. However, whomever comes after Jones will have to be paid more. Otherwise, we might get another mediocre D-I assistant who can't cut it as a head coach. Because that is what we have right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Just so it's clear and I can't speak for others on the other side of Jones still being the coach, we all wish for success of this team. I would never and have never once cheered against UND in any sports. If Jones' team pulls a worst to first hey I would pat him on the back and say congrats, I hope that Eurpoean trip combined with another year for the non freshman matured the team enough to compete not only in conference play but against Wisconsin, UNI and NDSU. Upset wins against any of those 3 would be awesome. I still don't understand how neither South Dakota teams are on the schedule, we had a good stretch playing the Jacks and we still haven't played the Yotes since the GWC days. So good luck to Coach Jones and this year's UND Fighting Hawks or Roughriders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Just so it's clear and I can't speak for others on the other side of Jones still being the coach, we all wish for success of this team. I would never and have never once cheered against UND in any sports. If Jones' team pulls a worst to first hey I would pat him on the back and say congrats, I hope that Eurpoean trip combined with another year for the non freshman matured the team enough to compete not only in conference play but against Wisconsin, UNI and NDSU. Upset wins against any of those 3 would be awesome. I still don't understand how neither South Dakota teams are on the schedule, we had a good stretch playing the Jacks and we still haven't played the Yotes since the GWC days. So good luck to Coach Jones and this year's UND Fighting Hawks or Roughriders.I feel the same way and figured that is what you meant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 I feel the same way and figured that is what you meant.I know some people question that if I bring up the Fire Jones thread or if I talk about NDSU, but I want to reassure my loyalty to UND is always there even if my posts don't think that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Fan Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I will be accused by some of starting my "Jones bitching" too early this year but my post of last night regarding the Youngstown game should probably have been posted here as it relates to the season - not just that game.....After driving many hours to see today's game in person, I left with a sick feeling in my stomach. I just don't see that this group of young players will receive the coaching necessary to get the most out of their considerable talent and become a great team (this year or in the future). Sideline demeanor, lack of adjustments during a game, lack of ability to stop opponents "runs", lack of positive motivation, etc. - the same issues that have haunted us the last few years!There really are some talented, young kids on this team (although we still really need a much stronger presence at the 4 & 5). My concern is that this talent will provide us with a reasonably good record and the coaching situation will not be addressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 We play 5 DI games in Nov/Dec will we get at least 1 win before January 2016?vs UNIAt Bradleyvs NDSUat Kansas Stvs Idaho i say we win 1 of those games but it won't be against UNI, NDSU and KSU. This team is struggling early and looks like a repeat of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmksioux Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 We play 5 DI games in Nov/Dec will we get at least 1 win before January 2016?vs UNIAt Bradleyvs NDSUat Kansas Stvs Idaho i say we win 1 of those games but it won't be against UNI, NDSU and KSU. This team is struggling early and looks like a repeat of last season.Pretty sure we already have a win against BGSU... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Pretty sure we already have a win against BGSU...And that could be it until 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Pretty sure we already have a win against BGSU...which of the next 5 games against DI teams will be a win? I know we have 1 DI win overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmksioux Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 And that could be it until 2016.it very well might be. I'd like to think we'll beat NDSU as we have them at home, but unfortunately there are too many question marks with this team right now...including coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I wish for an effective zone offense. Spent too much time yelling MOVE! CUT! PUT SOMEONE IN THE MIDDLE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 (edited) Can't stand Jones and his constant yelling and pouting while standing on or pacing around the court. Has anybody ever seen him positively reinforcing his players or encouraging them? All he ever seems to do is yell.... would not be a fun person to play for. Edited November 25, 2015 by nodak651 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtime fan Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 As big of a fan as I am of college hoops, I admit I don't keep up with und as much as I should. I follow enough to consider myself dangerous.The one glaring weakness to me seems to be defense. Coach jones doesn't preach it. Never had that big in the middle that could alter or block shots or simply be "that" presence. Plenty of guard play but no big play again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) As big of a fan as I am of college hoops, I admit I don't keep up with und as much as I should. I follow enough to consider myself dangerous.The one glaring weakness to me seems to be defense. Coach jones doesn't preach it. Never had that big in the middle that could alter or block shots or simply be "that" presence. Plenty of guard play but no big play again. Brekke was the closest he ever got. An incidental elbow later.... he never was the same. Wilmer in his Senior year was pretty good. I really hope Shanks can put it together soon, he can be that guy. This team is hard to stop when it is straight man defense. This team MO has always been up-tempo, attack the basketball, positions 1-4 can handle the ball, etc. But when teams zone..... its ugly. Despite them having the necessary weapon to attack the zone, the execution and set up is extremely lacking. From what I have seen, the boxing out has improved but we are getting killed on the inside and teams have gone to zone. Have we run any zone-D ourselves this year? I don't think I saw it when I watched the FGCU and YSU games. Edited November 28, 2015 by SWSiouxMN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd1sufan Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 As big of a fan as I am of college hoops, I admit I don't keep up with und as much as I should. I follow enough to consider myself dangerous.The one glaring weakness to me seems to be defense. Coach jones doesn't preach it. Never had that big in the middle that could alter or block shots or simply be "that" presence. Plenty of guard play but no big play again. Saw Montana play NDSU on Wednesday. Montana has a big man that is very good (and very strong). I think he will be hardbfor the UND big men to handle. But if they can contain him, Montana has next to nothing to go along with him. UND will have a major advantage in all 4 of the other positions. And if Montana is really the favorite to win the league, it looks pretty good for UND tommake some noise in the conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Saw Montana play NDSU on Wednesday. Montana has a big man that is very good (and very strong). I think he will be hardbfor the UND big men to handle. But if they can contain him, Montana has next to nothing to go along with him. UND will have a major advantage in all 4 of the other positions. And if Montana is really the favorite to win the league, it looks pretty good for UND tommake some noise in the conference.Breunig is very good, probably is favorite to win Big Sky POY.Personally I buy Weber as the best in the Sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nd1sufan Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Breunig is very good, probably is favorite to win Big Sky POY.Personally I buy Weber as the best in the Sky. Yes, Breunig is very good. Outside of Iowa State, I don't think NDSU wil see a big man that good the rest of the year. I know Weber is traditionally the calss of the BSC, but I see they were handled pretty easily by SD State earlier this year, but SDSU is very good this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Yes, Breunig is very good. Outside of Iowa State, I don't think NDSU wil see a big man that good the rest of the year. I know Weber is traditionally the calss of the BSC, but I see they were handled pretty easily by SD State earlier this year, but SDSU is very good this year.I see the league tiered this wayTier 1 (THE FAVORITES)WeberMontanaTier 2 (COULD WIN TITLE IF THINGS CLICK)NAUSUUEWUTier 3 (COULD SNEAK IN TOP 5 IN LEAGUE IF THINGS GO RIGHT)IdahoUNDPSUSACUNCTier 4 (PROJECT TEAMS)MSUISU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.