College Hockey Expansion

[Fetch]

Where is AZ state - I may have to move there

[The Sicatoka]

Where is AZ state - I may have to move there

 

Phoenix (specifically the suburb of Tempe).

[Fetch]

Don't be so enthusiastic to get rid of me

[The Sicatoka]

Dude, you asked.

And Allegiant flies direct (GFK to Mesa)! 

Mesa (AZA) is the town on the other side of Tempe. 

 

Here's their website. 

Need help booking?  

[Goon]

I you're staying in Tempe, AZ, I recommend the Butte's.

[MafiaMan]

I you're staying in Tempe, AZ, I recommend the Butte's.

There's that unnecessary apostrophe again...

AZ State's temporary home will seat up to 900 people, which, when full to capacity, will be 9 times the average crowd at a B10 hockey tournament championship game.

[cberkas]

Non NCAA or Men's hockey, Arizona State is starting a women's ACHA D1 team in 2016. Arizona State could possibly have a NCAA D1 woman's team in a few years.

http://www.statepress.com/article/2015/08/asu-adds-womens-club-hockey-for-fall-2016?_h=9041e88d-890d-4b61-9e9a-8b040b89615b

[Yote 53]

University of Iowa is inching closer.  I don't think this Coralville Arena project has the traction it does unless there is an unpublicized understanding with the Iowa AD on adding varsity hockey at Iowa.

http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/big-ten/2015/8/15/9159669/iowa-hockey-coralville-arena

[SiouxVolley]

University of Iowa is inching closer.  I don't think this Coralville Arena project has the traction it does unless there is an unpublicized understanding with the Iowa AD on adding varsity hockey at Iowa.

http://www.sbncollegehockey.com/big-ten/2015/8/15/9159669/iowa-hockey-coralville-arena

Agree.  Iowa and Arizona St to the BTHC.  Women's teams will join too, so a women's BTHC will form too.  Iowa hired Gene Taylor to oversee their hockey teams start.

Edited August 17, 2015 by SiouxVolley

[southpaw]

Agree.  Iowa and Arizona St to the BTHC.  Women's teams will join too, so a women's BTHC will form too.  Iowa hired Gene Taylor to oversee their hockey teams start.

In your scenario, the Big Ten would only have 5 all-B10 teams.  They wouldn't create a conference knowing they'll potentially lose their autobid if Arizona State decides to jump ship.  It's a different case in men's where they have 6 teams that are forced to be in the BTHC.

Why would Iowa hire a guy who has no experience in hockey to start a hockey program? Working at a school 70 miles from a powerhouse hockey program does not make someone an experienced hockey guy.

[UNDBIZ]

In your scenario, the Big Ten would only have 5 all-B10 teams.  They wouldn't create a conference knowing they'll potentially lose their autobid if Arizona State decides to jump ship.  It's a different case in men's where they have 6 teams that are forced to be in the BTHC.

Why would Iowa hire a guy who has no experience in hockey to start a hockey program? Working at a school 70 miles from a powerhouse hockey program does not make someone an experienced hockey guy.

Especially when that powerhouse hockey school has no interest in having a relationship with him to help start up the program.

[SiouxVolley]

In your scenario, the Big Ten would only have 5 all-B10 teams.  They wouldn't create a conference knowing they'll potentially lose their autobid if Arizona State decides to jump ship.  It's a different case in men's where they have 6 teams that are forced to be in the BTHC.

Why would Iowa hire a guy who has no experience in hockey to start a hockey program? Working at a school 70 miles from a powerhouse hockey program does not make someone an experienced hockey guy.

Theres no alternative for ASU women's hockey unless they joined the WCHA.  No Colorado teams.

NDSU has studied adding hockey so many times Gene Taylor has the playbook memorized.  The current Iowa AD wanted more bizon blood.

[southpaw]

Theres no alternative for ASU women's hockey unless they joined the WCHA.  No Colorado teams.

NDSU has studied adding hockey so many times Gene Taylor has the playbook memorized.  The current Iowa AD wanted more bizon blood.

Why is joining the WWCHA a bad thing?  I get that ASU doesn't want to just be associated with UND, Bemidji, MSU, St Cloud State, UMD but if ASU and Iowa both add D1 women's hockey it makes more sense that they join what would become a 10-team WCHA.

I get why they did it on the men's side but there was no talk about MN, Wisco, Michigan, Michigan St and Ohio State creating a Big 10 hockey conference with one part-time member. It didn't happen until Penn State joined... a full-time B10 member.  Until another B10 team adds women's hockey, they won't create a WBTHC.

[SiouxVolley]

Why is joining the WWCHA a bad thing?  I get that ASU doesn't want to just be associated with UND, Bemidji, MSU, St Cloud State, UMD but if ASU and Iowa both add D1 women's hockey it makes more sense that they join what would become a 10-team WCHA.

I get why they did it on the men's side but there was no talk about MN, Wisco, Michigan, Michigan St and Ohio State creating a Big 10 hockey conference with one part-time member. It didn't happen until Penn State joined... a full-time B10 member.  Until another B10 team adds women's hockey, they won't create a WBTHC.

Michigan and Mich St will add women's hockey as soon as Red Berenson is retired.  

The WWCHA will have to add Lindenwood and maybe other CHA teams.

Edited August 17, 2015 by SiouxVolley

[johnsowe]

UND DENVER and ASU to the BIG TEN.  CCHA forms and all is happy

[Fetch]

I can't imagine being back with the goophers 

[johnsowe]

They need some competition.

[Siouxman]

They need some competition.

Nah, I think they like being the big fish in a mud hole.

[southpaw]

Michigan and Mich St will add women's hockey as soon as Red Berenson is retired.  

The WWCHA will have to add Lindenwood and maybe other CHA teams.

please enlighten us as to why Michigan State will suddenly decide to throw cash at the money pit that is women's hockey just because Michigan's men's coach retires. 

[cberkas]

The B1G has no interest in starting a woman's conference in hockey when most of the B1G schools are in the best women's hockey conference.  

[SiouxVolley]

Why in the world is Mich St sponsoring women's hockey clinics if it doesn't plan on adding the sport?

http://www.msuspartans.com/sports/m-hockey/msu-m-hockey-body.html

[southpaw]

Why in the world is Mich St sponsoring women's hockey clinics if it doesn't plan on adding the sport?

http://www.msuspartans.com/sports/m-hockey/msu-m-hockey-body.html

Why haven't they announced a women's team in the four years they've held the clinic?  The same clinic that touts itself as:

The popular clinic - which has sold out each of the previous three years - is designed for the female hockey FAN, not just the seasoned player. 

They even teach you how to tape your stick!  Sounds like they're going after some pretty big players in high school girls hockey.

 And at the risk of repeating myself:

please enlighten us as to why Michigan State will suddenly decide to throw cash at the money pit that is women's hockey just because Michigan's men's coach retires. 

 

Edited August 17, 2015 by southpaw

[SiouxVolley]

 

Why haven't they announced a women's team in the four years they've held the clinic?  The same clinic that touts itself as:

They even teach you how to tape your stick!  Sounds like they're going after some pretty big players in high school girls hockey.

 And at the risk of repeating myself:

 

MSU let's their two women club teams practice in the same rink as the men's:  Munn.  It's a totally different atmosphere than Michigan, which wants a separate rink for women before they would start women's hockey.

http://www.michigandaily.com/sports/womens-hockey-persists-club-sport

Why would Michigan St add women's hockey if it meant conference games against Mercyhurst and Lindenwood?  A:  They are waiting for another Big Ten team and have women's hockey as filler on the Big Ten Network.   MSU isn't going to start at a level that is less than the Big Ten.

 

 

[SiouxVolley]

http://thegazette.com/subject/sports/part-v-will-barta-add-more-sports-to-growing-list-of-facilities-20150730

Iowa AD Barta on Hawkeye hockey.  He doesn't say it will happen, but he says an arena makes one less major barrier for it.

[southpaw]

MSU let's their two women club teams practice in the same rink as the men's:  Munn.  It's a totally different atmosphere than Michigan, which wants a separate rink for women before they would start women's hockey.

http://www.michigandaily.com/sports/womens-hockey-persists-club-sport

Why would Michigan St add women's hockey if it meant conference games against Mercyhurst and Lindenwood?  A:  They are waiting for another Big Ten team and have women's hockey as filler on the Big Ten Network.   MSU isn't going to start at a level that is less than the Big Ten.

 

 

But with you saying 

Agree.  Iowa and Arizona St to the BTHC.  Women's teams will join too, so a women's BTHC will form too.  Iowa hired Gene Taylor to oversee their hockey teams start.

Then why would Michigan State wait for Red Berenson to retire (which I still don't get why that matters for Michigan Women's hockey other than you implying Red has so much pull in the UM athletic department that he can tell them a women's team can't play in the same arena... which just screams Title 9 issues).  

The Big 10 would already have MN, Wisco, Iowa, Penn State and Ohio State in your prophecy but apparently MSU is going to wait until Michigan can play too?