geaux_sioux Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Good question. He was recruited as a PWO by Mussman but never got an opportunity in the QB battle between Mollberg and Bartles in 2013 (hint, hint). Enter Bubba and his staff and they keep him on the roster for depth reasons. Point is, he's not capable. He's a local player that is recognizable. But, he's not a DI QB. Studsrud is getting the 1st unit reps because Hanson is not trusted as capable by Bubba and the coaching staff. Or they just view Studsrud as much better. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 So you would pull the shirt off a guy for 4 games? It seems like a waste of a year to do that. It's not a waste of a year. Either he starts the next 3 years or redshirts next year and starts later. He won't lose a year of playing time. Quote
Bidago Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 North Dakota Class AA football is, well, deceiving. In reality, Class A football in ND is more competitive and actually produces just as talented of teams, if not more talented. (Grafton is AA) I would agree that ND football in general in not at the same level as more populated states. I would think the better teams like Wahpeton, fargo shanley, Dickinson, Minot Ryan, Bismarck st mary, etc. would disagree. AA Quote
BigGame Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 It's not a waste of a year. Either he starts the next 3 years or redshirts next year and starts later. He won't lose a year of playing time. The situation isn't nearly that simple. 1 Quote
darell1976 Posted October 29, 2014 Author Posted October 29, 2014 It's not a waste of a year. Either he starts the next 3 years or redshirts next year and starts later. He won't lose a year of playing time. Going to be big trouble if that road comes true. A major QB contraversey to start 2015. Something that could hurt a season. We could see someone leave (Mollberg/Bartels) if they get beat out by a sophomore with 4 games under his belt. Quote
nodak651 Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Going to be big trouble if that road comes true. A major QB contraversey to start 2015. Something that could hurt a season. We could see someone leave (Mollberg/Bartels) if they get beat out by a sophomore with 4 games under his belt. We would still have a senior backing up a sophomore and whoever else we bring in. Sounds ok to me. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Inside of all of this speculation about "fall 2015" is a belief that Mollberg will be medically cleared for contact then. 2 Quote
southpaw Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Going to be big trouble if that road comes true. A major QB contraversey to start 2015. Something that could hurt a season. We could see someone leave (Mollberg/Bartels) if they get beat out by a sophomore with 4 games under his belt. Why wouldn't there be a controversy anyway? Studsrud could win the starting job next year with zero games under his belt. Play the best QB period. 1 Quote
darell1976 Posted October 29, 2014 Author Posted October 29, 2014 Why wouldn't there be a controversy anyway? Studsrud could win the starting job next year with zero games under his belt. Play the best QB period. I agree play the best, and I am glad it's not my job to pick which one it is. It's the most important position on that offense and I hope Bubba and company picks the right one. Quote
homer Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 The situation isn't nearly that simple. Why? The coaches will play who they feel is the best guy. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Now does everyone see why I wanted a construction camera mounted at the top of the west side grandstand at Memorial to watch the construction of the indoor practice facility (and to watch practices)? Quote
The Sicatoka Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Reality check time folks: If Bartles is a no-go ... it's 2 QBs and the "Squad 51" guy. That's what we should be busting a gut about. Start thinking-good-thinks about Bartles' health ... now! Quote
southpaw Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Now does everyone see why I wanted a construction camera mounted at the top of the west side grandstand at Memorial to watch the construction of the indoor practice facility (and to watch practices)? Because you knew Molberg would be out for the season and Bartels would not practice this week and you're a big fan of scout team offenses being led by Wide Receivers? Quote
The Sicatoka Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Because you knew Molberg would be out for the season and Bartels would not practice this week and you're a big fan of scout team offenses being led by Wide Receivers? Dang right ... now let me get back to filling in my PowerBall and MegaMillions numbers. Quote
SiouxFan100 Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 North Dakota Class AA football is, well, deceiving. In reality, Class A football in ND is more competitive and actually produces just as talented of teams, if not more talented. (Grafton is AA) Hanson is short for the position, does not run an exceptional 40, and doesn't have the pocket presence necessary. From looking at him in practice, he just isn't a DI QB. He regularly makes mistakes. You do realize that "AA" schools are bigger than "A" in North Dakota. The top 3 or 4 teams in "AA" would be competitive with many "AAA". I would think that the top two or three "A" teams would be competitive with half of the "AA" but Shanley would slaughter "A" teams. Grafton was very good in the years that Hanson played for them. Quote
Player21 Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 The situation isn't nearly that simple. It's not a waste of a year. Either he starts the next 3 years or redshirts next year and starts later. He won't lose a year of playing time. This is a unique situation. If Studsrud is better than Hanson he should play. If Studsrud isn't better than Mollberg and Bartels next year, he won't play anyways, so having the title of redshirt is really irrelevant other than the fact that it won't count towards eligibility if he were to redshirt, which he might as well be labeled if he isn't playing anyway. Even if he is the backup next year and either Mollberg or Bartels leaves, he should still remain redshirted if he isn't starting to maintain that extra year of eligibility, he can always be the back up and pull his redshirt status again if needed. There are many players who "waste" a year of eligibility because they aren't playing, so to look at either year as a waste isn't seeing the whole picture. Young players don't tend to play a whole lot anyway, unless they help on special teams or are just flat out better than the upperclassmen at their position. The staff is smart and will do what makes the team the best it can be. It's not high school anymore, these coaches are here to win and they aren't worried about the feelings of players if they aren't playing. The expectation is for the players to earn their playing time. 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 You do realize that "AA" schools are bigger than "A" in North Dakota. The top 3 or 4 teams in "AA" would be competitive with many "AAA". I would think that the top two or three "A" teams would be competitive with half of the "AA" but Shanley would slaughter "A" teams. Grafton was very good in the years that Hanson played for them. AA teams are bigger in terms of enrollment, but there are more A teams in North Dakota. As a result, the top 3 teams in Class A are often just as good as the top 3 teams in Class AA. Grafton's teams that recently participated in the state championship games were not overwhelming; top Class A football schools like Velva, Harvey, and Hazen are often as talented and are recruited just as heavily by college football recruiters. Quote
Hawkster Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 You really think the kid is going to want to redshirt AGAIN next year? He just did it for 9 weeks. Let's use our heads people. This was my thinking as well. I'm sure he'll be itching to play, especially if he gets a taste this year. The other thing is a lot of people expected him to step up and challenge Mollberg and Bartels next year. Mollberg may not even be in good enough shape for spring ball and as much as I like Bartels, he could use a little improvement as well. I don't see Studsrud redshirting next year. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 This was my thinking as well. I'm sure he'll be itching to play, especially if he gets a taste this year. The other thing is a lot of people expected him to step up and challenge Mollberg and Bartels next year. Mollberg may not even be in good enough shape for spring ball and as much as I like Bartels, he could use a little improvement as well. I don't see Studsrud redshirting next year. If he doesn't play he'll redshirt. Quote
Northcountry Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 DAY - BY - DAY. Do what you need to do now to be as good as you can be. Bartels and Mollberg both redshirted with a plan to compete for playing time later - how has that worked out? Studsrud could play at EWU and get hurt, so do you play to protect players or build the program? The only game that matters is one you are playing - do what you have to do to give yourself the best chance, then start preparing for the next one. Quote
Bidago Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 did anyone listen to Bubba on the ground round und sports show last night.....what did he have to say about this weeks game? Quote
bincitysioux Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 did anyone listen to Bubba on the ground round und sports show last night.....what did he have to say about this weeks game? He said they are preparing as if Bartels won't be available, but that can change by Saturday. Said Hanson knows the offense and is a good leader. Said Studsrud can make all the throws. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 He said they are preparing as if Bartels won't be available ... Bartender! 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted November 3, 2014 Posted November 3, 2014 This injuries are an unfortunate side effect of limited depth; however, they are also related to strength and conditioning. Is the UND Football strength and conditioning program where it needs to be? Quote
BigGame Posted November 3, 2014 Posted November 3, 2014 This injuries are an unfortunate side effect of limited depth; however, they are also related to strength and conditioning. Is the UND Football strength and conditioning program where it needs to be? A lot of the guys getting hurt haven't been in the program all that long. I wouldn't jump to strength and conditioning as the main issue at this point. I sort of throw out the QB injuries and several true freshman or transfer players have been injured or have dealt with injuries on and off this season. Quote
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