SIOUXFAN97 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said: Today I learned Kansas is a recruiting hotbed. http://www.databasefootball.com/players/player_bystate.htm?state=KS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 1 minute ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: http://www.databasefootball.com/players/player_bystate.htm?state=KS http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2015/4/15/8143431/states-most-players-recruits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, Gothmog said: Yes, SDSU has done remarkably well in FCS, better than might have been reasonably expected.. But many of the schools listed as part of this theoretical conference are also fairly recent DII move ups, and some of them were more successful at the DII level than was SDSU. If they have not had much success moving up to FCS, why would anyone assume that they will have more success moving to FBS? I don't believe the WAC move would be successful, but IF it occurred and UND was successful at FBS it'd be because they moved before South Dakota State and North Dakota State, and thus gained a recruiting advantage similar to what vaulted the xDSUs ahead of the UxDs. As for the bolded portion, without looking it up I'm going to guess that all of them other than maybe Sac St were more successful at the DII level than SDSU. It'd be difficult to be worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmog Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 1 minute ago, JohnboyND7 said: http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2015/4/15/8143431/states-most-players-recruits It's probably worth noting Wichita's proximity to Big 12, Big 10, and SEC schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakotadan Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 38 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said: Simple, don't read it and chose to remain uninformed. The only way I'd be uninformed was if you were actually providing facts and real information. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, JohnboyND7 said: http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2015/4/15/8143431/states-most-players-recruits Unrelated: What the heck is going on in New York? 20 million people and just 5-10 top-rated recruits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 4 minutes ago, Gothmog said: It's probably worth noting Wichita's proximity to Big 12, Big 10, and SEC schools. so it is a hotbed...okay thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmog Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: so it is a hotbed...okay thanks. No, hotbed, or not, Wichita State will have a whole lot of competition from better established nearby schools. They're unlikely to get more than table scraps . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, Gothmog said: No, hotbed, or not, Wichita State will have a whole lot of competition from better established nearby schools. They're unlikely to get more than table scraps . apology accepted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksfan29 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 9 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Unrelated: What the heck is going on in New York? 20 million people and just 5-10 top-rated recruits. Must be the urban NYC area that hurts the numbers. I'm not sure, but it would seem that having a FB team in an NYC high school would be a luxury that most can't/don't want to pay for. But that's just a guess. As for Kansas. Any top recruits are going to be leaving the state or going KSU/KU. If Wichita was such a hot bed of recruits WSU would have been good prior to dropping the sport. They weren't. In fact they had not won a conference title in 30 years, one of the reasons they dropped the sport. The city, school and alumni were so apathetic that when a group tried to raise private funds to save the program the dollar figure raised... ZERO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmog Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 30 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: I don't believe the WAC move would be successful, but IF it occurred and UND was successful at FBS it'd be because they moved before South Dakota State and North Dakota State, and thus gained a recruiting advantage similar to what vaulted the xDSUs ahead of the UxDs. As for the bolded portion, without looking it up I'm going to guess that all of them other than maybe Sac St were more successful at the DII level than SDSU. It'd be difficult to be worse. Well, we'll never know what might have happened if UND had moved up at the same time as the XDSUs. But, whose fault is that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 18 minutes ago, Gothmog said: No, hotbed, or not, Wichita State will have a whole lot of competition from better established nearby schools. They're unlikely to get more than table scraps . with this kind of mindset you might want to send an email to these schools to close up shop and drop fb totally akron western michigan eastern michigan central michigan toledo northern illinois miami, oh ohio unc-charlotte south florida central florida appy state georgia southern georgia state florida international florida atlantic western kentucky south alabama troy southern mississippi texas state texas-san antonio la-lafeyette la tech .............. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmog Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 11 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: apology accepted. Imagine whatever you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: with this kind of mindset you might want to send an email to these schools to close up shop and drop fb totally It wouldn't be the worst idea for many of the schools you listed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted August 22, 2016 Author Share Posted August 22, 2016 18 minutes ago, jacksfan29 said: Must be the urban NYC area that hurts the numbers. I'm not sure, but it would seem that having a FB team in an NYC high school would be a luxury that most can't/don't want to pay for. But that's just a guess. As for Kansas. Any top recruits are going to be leaving the state or going KSU/KU. If Wichita was such a hot bed of recruits WSU would have been good prior to dropping the sport. They weren't. In fact they had not won a conference title in 30 years, one of the reasons they dropped the sport. The city, school and alumni were so apathetic that when a group tried to raise private funds to save the program the dollar figure raised... ZERO! The Koch Brothers weren't billionaires at the time. Now the Shockers and WSU business and entrepreneurial function are a high priority. Would UND hockey be the same without Engelstad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted August 22, 2016 Author Share Posted August 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, mooncountry said: Faison made some interesting comments on 790 this morning... He sure made Summit/MV sounded desirable but no standing invites... Some teams in their area would have mutual interest in the WAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmog Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 27 minutes ago, mooncountry said: Faison made some interesting comments on 790 this morning... He sure made Summit/MV sounded desirable but no standing invites... It'll be interesting to see how SV deals with this if it progresses. I'm betting on "this is a ruse by Kennedy/Faison to a) extract more money from donors for the inevitable FBS WAC, or b) curry favor with the legislature to get approval and funding for the inevitable FBS WAC." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 2 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: So a recognition that some Big Sky schools will go FBS was Faulty? Corporations paid me for my insight into problem solving. It's never precise at first, but you demand that. How did you and Bozoville's prediction that UND wouldn't go DI Go? All the board was saying that. Certainly all Bisonville aren't that Idiotic? Of course it wasnt the whole board silly. Most new you would follow us sooner or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 56 minutes ago, mooncountry said: Faison made some interesting comments on 790 this morning... He sure made Summit/MV sounded desirable but no standing invites... I found his comment they were committed to funding football for now comment strange. I would assume they are committed to funding for football---period. Not just for now. Or am I reading that wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 2 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: So a recognition that some Big Sky schools will go FBS was Faulty? Corporations paid me for my insight into problem solving. It's never precise at first, but you demand that. How did you and Bozoville's prediction that UND wouldn't go DI Go? All the board was saying that. Certainly all Bisonville aren't that Idiotic? Precise??? Dude you arent in the same stratosphere with that prediction. Plus there is a laundry list of others. Should I go on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 10 minutes ago, bison73 said: Of course it wasnt the whole board silly. Most new you would follow us sooner or later. who had d1 sports first again? just wondering 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 Faison isn't very good at public speaking or interacting with other people in general. I wouldn't read too much into any off the cuff radio comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmog Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, bison73 said: I found his comment they were committed to funding football for now comment strange. I would assume they are committed to funding for football---period. Not just for now. Or am I reading that wrong? I didn't hear what he said, but the implication seems to be that, at some point in the future, they may not be committed to "funding" football. If it means anything at all, it must mean at the current level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmog Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: who had d1 sports first again? just wondering You do understand the difference between having a DI sport, and being a DI school, don't you? Bemidji State has a DI sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted August 22, 2016 Share Posted August 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Gothmog said: You do understand the difference between having a DI sport, and being a DI school, don't you? Bemidji State has a DI sport. to 98% of college football fans if your school isn't fbs you are still d2..hence the espn tweet about wentz not playing against "d1 talent each and every week" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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