MafiaMan Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 When (not if) Muss is fired, should he retained as as a position coach or coordinator, or just let him be gone from the program altogether. Yea, because that's what every new head coach wants...the former head coach reporting to him. No possible conflict there...
Bison06 Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Scottie hazelton?? Honest question, because his name has come up multiple times as a replacement. What makes anyone on this board think he will take the UND job if offered. He is an NDSU guy, I honestly doubt he would want to coach at UND. Could be wrong though.
geaux_sioux Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Honest question, because his name has come up multiple times as a replacement. What makes anyone on this board think he will take the UND job if offered. He is an NDSU guy, I honestly doubt he would want to coach at UND. Could be wrong though. I wouldn't consider him an NDSU guy. Fuchs and Vigen, now those are NDSU guys. Did Hazelton even coach against UND at NDSU? And for those who think that makes it impossible look no further than Bo Schembechler who was an OSU guy before being the all time Michigan man.
PhillySioux Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Honest question, because his name has come up multiple times as a replacement. What makes anyone on this board think he will take the UND job if offered. He is an NDSU guy, I honestly doubt he would want to coach at UND. Could be wrong though. I have no idea what job he would want, but he has coached at 6 schools not located in Fargo and played at Fort Lewis College. This "NDSU Guy" or "UND guy" stuff is nonsense for fans to babble about.
Bison06 Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 I wouldn't consider him an NDSU guy. Fuchs and Vigen, now those are NDSU guys. Did Hazelton even coach against UND at NDSU? And for those who think that makes it impossible look no further than Bo Schembechler who was an OSU guy before being the all time Michigan man. Hazelton is an NDSU guy, don't doubt that. Not having played for the Bison doesn't make him any less of "one of our guys". Setting that aside for a moment though, what about the UND job would be enticing to a man who is in his position?
Bison06 Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 I have no idea what job he would want, but he has coached at 6 schools not located in Fargo and played at Fort Lewis College. This "NDSU Guy" or "UND guy" stuff is nonsense for fans to babble about. Gus Bradley is the connection to Fort Lewis, brought him on at NDSU as a GA. HIs roots lie with NDSU. Call it nonsense if you want.
ericpnelson Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Honest question, because his name has come up multiple times as a replacement. What makes anyone on this board think he will take the UND job if offered. He is an NDSU guy, I honestly doubt he would want to coach at UND. Could be wrong though. Ego or ambition for being the head guy. I and most assume the replacement will make marketably more than Mussman. Maybe ndsu is the most loyal place in the world but I think most people look at job offers on an individual basis as in what's best for their career goals and what's best for the well being of their family. Case in point, this weekend we saw a former player coach against us in our marquee sport.
Bison06 Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Ego or ambition for being the head guy. I and most assume the replacement will make marketably more than Mussman. Maybe ndsu is the most loyal place in the world but I think most people look at job offers on an individual basis as in what's best for their career goals and what's best for the well being of their family. Case in point, this weekend we saw a former player coach against us in our marquee sport. This is part of my point. I don't see anything enticing about coming to UND as the head guy for him. It seems like an enormous step backwards, regardless of money. Where do you go from UND? He is already in a great position as a DC at a Mid level FBS school who has position coach experience at a major FBS program. Not to mention a national championship as a DC in FCS. Just seems to me like UND wouldn't be a move in the right direction for his career. I am just surprised to hear his name come up on this board.
choyt3 Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Honest question, because his name has come up multiple times as a replacement. What makes anyone on this board think he will take the UND job if offered. He is an NDSU guy, I honestly doubt he would want to coach at UND. Could be wrong though. You mean like Greg McDermott and Ben Jacobson?
Bison06 Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 You mean like Greg McDermott and Ben Jacobson? Not to nitpick, but it seems appropriate to point out that they came from UND to NDSU. Not the other way around.
ericpnelson Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 This is part of my point. I don't see anything enticing about coming to UND as the head guy for him. It seems like an enormous step backwards, regardless of money. Where do you go from UND? He is already in a great position as a DC at a Mid level FBS school who has schoolsposition coach hasexperience at a major FBS program. Not to mention a national championship as a DC in FCS. Just seems to me like UND wouldn't be a move in the right direction for his career. I am just surprised to hear his name come up on this board. That's a fair question. This board isn't a search committee but rather a wish list. The idea would be he has success here and gets his chance at fbs a la Jerry Kill. As far as FCS and the open positions UND still isn't that bad of choice for the rank despite the last few years. Talk to event promoters who do stuff for other schools. North Dakota has great support for its sports. Ask objective opinions and it's disporportionately impressive.
MafiaMan Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 I have no idea what job he would want, but he has coached at 6 schools not located in Fargo and played at Fort Lewis College. This "NDSU Guy" or "UND guy" stuff is nonsense for fans to babble about. Right on. Bo's a good example...Dean Blais is another one. Sioux fans conveniently seem to forget where he played his college hockey.
geaux_sioux Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Not to nitpick, but it seems appropriate to point out that they came from UND to NDSU. Not the other way around. And the rivalry in men's basketball wasn't ever as intense as football or even womens basketball.
Matt Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Whether or not Hazelton would take the job if offered is a totally different concept as to whether or not UND should consider him a candidate for the position. 1
geaux_sioux Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Hazelton is an NDSU guy, don't doubt that. Not having played for the Bison doesn't make him any less of "one of our guys". Setting that aside for a moment though, what about the UND job would be enticing to a man who is in his position? The future is bright with the indoor facility in the immediate future with state of the art facilities. That will make it a great job for recruiting purposes. Also the young talent on the team is obvious and PJ Sparks showed last night that just because the young guys haven't been playing doesn't mean they aren't better. Also UND has no D1 success, that mean a guy can come in here and make it from scratch and leave here a legend. That has to be enticing to any coach with ambition.
gfhockey Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 I think hes gone....faison says no comment... Normally the ad would say "chris mussman is still our football coach as of today"... If not....fire faison for letting our program go in the gutters!
Bison06 Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 The future is bright with the indoor facility in the immediate future with state of the art facilities. That will make it a great job for recruiting purposes. Also the young talent on the team is obvious and PJ Sparks showed last night that just because the young guys haven't been playing doesn't mean they aren't better. Also UND has no D1 success, that mean a guy can come in here and make it from scratch and leave here a legend. That has to be enticing to any coach with ambition. I have to admire your optimism.
geaux_sioux Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 I have to admire your optimism. I prefer to stay positive if possible. 1
CMSioux Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Hardin..."We never came together as a team". Think any player has said those words under Bohl's leadership? Just saying... Yes the year they went 3-8. That was also the year all the genuises on the chat rooms were calling to fire Bohl and all his coordinators. Dang - guess their AD doesn't listen to the chat rooms the way ours does. Not saying a change isn't needed just saying this thread continues to fuel negativity that isn't necessary. Just sayin (oh and I do beleve that all opinioins are still welcome in a chat room.) 1
CMSioux Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 I have to admire your optimism. And we admire your interest in Sioux sports, isn't it time for the daily reminder of how much better FU is than UND in all facets?
geaux_sioux Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Yes the year they went 3-8. That was also the year all the genuises on the chat rooms were calling to fire Bohl and all his coordinators. Dang - guess their AD doesn't listen to the chat rooms the way ours does. Not saying a change isn't needed just saying this thread continues to fuel negativity that isn't necessary. Just sayin (oh and I do beleve that all opinioins are still welcome in a chat room.) I don't think any coach can survive going 3-8 twice. Maybe at a place like Valpo but our program is better than that.
geaux_sioux Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 And we admire your interest in Sioux sports, isn't it time for the daily reminder of how much better FU is than UND in all facets? He's really not that bad. Don't confuse someone who actually brings conversation with those other morons.
MafiaMan Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 And we admire your interest in Sioux sports, isn't it time for the daily reminder of how much better FU is than UND in all facets? Didn't you just say that ALL opinions are still welcome in a chat room right before this post? I also didn't see any Penn State players snapping each other with towels or dancing on the sidelines during the Ohio State debacle. Just sayin'...
zonadub Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 Not to nitpick, but it seems appropriate to point out that they came from UND to NDSU. Not the other way around. now that there is funny. i don't care who you are. thanks for the morning chuckle, bison06
gfhockey Posted November 17, 2013 Posted November 17, 2013 during the bisons 3-8 season were they continusouly blown out? jw... like I have beensaying...I like muss...as on OC coordinator...I think the HC is just too much for him and he doesn't have a good supporting staff.
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