Hak Suspended Two Games

[THETRIOUXPER]

I have had the pleasure of interacting with Hak a few times, and I must say that every time he has been very cordial, courteous, and always carried himself very well. I have the utmost respect for him and always will. If anything, this incident shows Haks passion for his team, the game, and standing up for what is right. Did he get caught up in the heat of the moment? Probably. Would he like to take it back? Absolutely. Is this a career defining moment? Not by a long shot. Get over it.

[The Sicatoka]

I edited your post in the interest of honesty for you.

You're so funny. Ha. Ha.

Nope I write 'em. And I've had to execute consequences unfortunately also.

Trust me: It's no fun for either side (and that's only speaking from the better side of the transaction).

[DamStrait]

When can we expect to find out what punishment the WCHA has meted out to Don Adam for his unarguably and incredibly poor job of officiating in this game? Can anyone review what Peltier did to Trupp and credibly argue that Peltier should not have gotten five and a DQ? That is when Adam lost control of the game and his actions (or lack thereof) need to have consequences.

[dagies]

I'm not going to hold it against him one bit.

When I was working in sales my boss would tell me that it's great to have what appears to be a good working relationship with a client, but you never know if you really have a good relationship until something goes wrong. When something goes wrong, that's when you find out the quality of your relationship.

Pretty much everyone had a lot of respect for Hakstol prior to this incident, and I think for all but a teeny minority that will continue after the fact because of how he has handled himself and the aftermath.

Now, he does it again and that will start to get chipped away, but I don't think there are very many people concerned about that.

I know I'm not.

[LB#11]

When can we expect to find out what punishment the WCHA has meted out to Don Adam for his unarguably and incredibly poor job of officiating in this game? Can anyone review what Peltier did to Trupp and credibly argue that Peltier should not have gotten five and a DQ? That is when Adam lost control of the game and his actions (or lack thereof) need to have consequences.

Dam Straight, DamStrait. I thought what Peltier did to Trupp is what ignited it all. If Adam would have made the correct calls on the penalites there would have been a lot less trouble.

[AZSIOUX]

I have had the pleasure of interacting with Hak a few times, and I must say that every time he has been very cordial, courteous, and always carried himself very well. I have the utmost respect for him and always will. If anything, this incident shows Haks passion for his team, the game, and standing up for what is right. Did he get caught up in the heat of the moment? Probably. Would he like to take it back? Absolutely. Is this a career defining moment? Not by a long shot. Get over it.

exactly, well said

[Boy Named Sioux]

I was so disgusted by the site of Hak 'flying the bird' I turned the channel - which was good b/c there was a great episode of CSI on that I hadn't seen before. It's the one where that porn star gets choked to death during sex by the guy who was smoking crack - classic! One of my favorite episodes, and the best part - they don't allow swearing on primetime network television so I wasn't subjected to anything offensive.

[Oxbow6]

I was so disgusted by the site of Hak 'flying the bird' I turned the channel - which was good b/c there was a great episode of CSI on that I hadn't seen before. It's the one where that porn star gets choked to death during sex by the guy who was smoking crack - classic! One of my favorite episodes, and the best part - they don't allow swearing on primetime network television so I wasn't subjected to anything offensive.

[skateshattrick]

When can we expect to find out what punishment the WCHA has meted out to Don Adam for his unarguably and incredibly poor job of officiating in this game? Can anyone review what Peltier did to Trupp and credibly argue that Peltier should not have gotten five and a DQ? That is when Adam lost control of the game and his actions (or lack thereof) need to have consequences.

I am glad that you brought this up because I would like to see that as well. I was at the game, and it happened right below us, in front of the penalty box area. What I saw is that Peltier checked Trupp from behind, but he was fortunately parallel to the boards. Peltier then basically sat on Trupp and cross-checked him several times. Trupp took a punch at Peltier who also took a swing. Malone then came in and went after Peltier. I never condone the 3rd man in like Malone, but it was certainly understandable considering who instigated the situation and Trupp's size. What was amazing is that Peltier only got a minor penalty and Malone got a double minor and a misconduct.

I have not seen the replay, but I would like to see it to confirm what I believed I saw at the time. That is when Hak flipped Adam off, which was not excusable, but understandable considering the history with Don Adam--THE worst official in the WCHA. And that is saying a lot.

[Goon]

THE worst official in the WCHA. And that is saying a lot.

There are quite a few in the WCHA that are close to taking that honor.

[The Whistler]

There are quite a few in the WCHA that are close to taking that honor.

Most of them are tied for last place!

[redwing77]

There are quite a few in the WCHA that are close to taking that honor.

I disagree.

There are quite a few poor officials in the WCHA, but as I've stated many a time, Adam is the worst because he's every bit as bad as all the other guys but also has a complete disregard for player safety on top of it. That makes him a bad AND dangerous official.

Anderson...Shepherd...Mason...Campion... doesn't matter. They all have been inconsistent, incompetent, and called poor games, but I've yet to see any of them act in a manner that placed players on the ice in danger of injury. Adam has.

[hermit]

I've gotten to know Hak personally and I'll echo OBG's words: this is as far removed from what Dave is as the east is from the west. When he said in his public apology that he was embarrassed, he meant it. This is not a coach you'll see standing on the boards whining about a call, or going postal on an official in the tunnel .

Dave Hakstol's character is, from my personal experience, of the highest magnitude.

You only saw the outward persona that he wants you to see.

[hermit]

Ahh,

Hermit's just the troll under the bridge.

I like to hear him ramble, he sounds "Hockey Helmet Special."

I have been watching the Sioux for a lot longer than most of you and have probably known a lot more players on a personal level than any of you. Hak is not the angel that you think he is.

[hermit]

Here's what I don't get Hermit, and feel free to correct me:

I just sat here reading your posts and I've noticed that most if not all of your posts on this topic are consisted of you talking down about Hakstol(your right to do so) and the UND program(again, your choice).

Yet, when someone decides to refute(sp?) your claims with facts or counter-arguments, you ignore it and move on to your next negative post.

I'm all for you speaking your mind on a message board like this, but if you're going to start by writing negative comments(Hakstol) and assinine statements(Oshie), you should be adult-enough to listen and respond to the arguments from people on the other side of the fence, including myself, instead of making your next negative post about Hakstol, the team, or UND for that matter.

Have a Wonderful Day.

Once there is a counter-arguement of substance then I could respond. You have a wonderful day and thank you for the polite responce.

[Sioux-cia]

You only saw the outward persona that he wants you to see.

OMG! I thought you were just some guy with a 'holier than thou' attitude but now I see your some guy with a vendetta. You have to take that somewhere else!! As far as I'm concerned, this last statement of your's just ended whatever credibility you may have had before you posted it.

[aleah]

OMG! I thought you were just some guy with a 'holier than thou' attitude but now I see your some guy with a vendetta. You have to take that somewhere else!! As far as I'm concerned, this last statement of your's just ended whatever credibility you may have had before you posted it.

yeah! I couldn't agree more!

[Siouxdonyms]

It will be interesting to see what affect Hakstol's suspension has on the team in the series against Denver. I think, undoubtedly, it will motivate them to go that extra mile for him. He's demonstrated that he's a coach who will stand behind his players, and now the players will do the same in return. This could turn out to be something that brings this team closer together, and this is the time of the year for that to happen!

[hermit]

OMG! I thought you were just some guy with a 'holier than thou' attitude but now I see your some guy with a vendetta. You have to take that somewhere else!! As far as I'm concerned, this last statement of your's just ended whatever credibility you may have had before you posted it.

Just pointing out the truth which people who have him on a throne fail to see. In reality I think he is the best coach in college hockey and when Blaiser left I said why look for a coach when the best candidate is already here. I am more concerned with the integrity of the team and the university as a whole than most of you. People were saying that Steve Johnson should be hired as coach. Which was not an option since Steve did not have a degree at the time. Hak was and still is the best coach that UND could have hired, I just do not worship the guy like others. How many of you were down on him when things were not going good? Most of you like everyone else? I never lost faith in his coaching abilities like many others did.

[dagies]

I have been watching the Sioux for a lot longer than most of you and have probably known a lot more players on a personal level than any of you. Hak is not the angel that you think he is.

I know one who would disagree with you.

[Goon]

It will be interesting to see what affect Hakstol's suspension has on the team in the series against Denver. I think, undoubtedly, it will motivate them to go that extra mile for him. He's demonstrated that he's a coach who will stand behind his players, and now the players will do the same in return. This could turn out to be something that brings this team closer together, and this is the time of the year for that to happen!

I think Eades will do a fine job.

[Sioux-cia]

Just pointing out the truth which people who have him on a throne fail to see. In reality I think he is the best coach in college hockey and when Blaiser left I said why look for a coach when the best candidate is already here. I am more concerned with the integrity of the team and the university as a whole than most of you. People were saying that Steve Johnson should be hired as coach. Which was not an option since Steve did not have a degree at the time. Hak was and still is the best coach that UND could have hired, I just do not worship the guy like others. How many of you were down on him when things were not going good? Most of you like everyone else? I never lost faith in his coaching abilities like many others did.

I don't see anyone on this thread putting Hak on the mantel and praying homage to him. There has been overwhelming agreement that what he did was wrong. There has been disagreement on the fairness of his punishment.

You are the only one who has alluded that Hak has committed other indiscretions but when asked you're silent, you're the only one who is attacking his character, you're the only one who doesn't seem to be able to accept his apology and UND imposed punishment.

IMHO, you're purpose here is to make Hak look as bad as possible. Yes, you're getting flak from the membership. Because we also believe he's the best hockey coach in college hockey today and because his public character to date had been impeccable. He screwed up. As usual his character shows through, he apologised and has accepted his punishment without public whining.

[redwing77]

Really, hermit, take it from someone who has said stupid things in the past: Not even I would spout off like you have, dude. Seriously? Implications of Hakstol's past? Indiscretions? What? The fact that Hak has had MANY opportunities to RIGHTFULLY send his players on the warpath and didnt makes no difference, huh? (Oh crap. Sioux-cia, I just joined you and being hostile and abusive because I used the term "warpath") Well, I have one thing to say: PROVE IT. It's put up or shut up time, buck-o.

Hakstol's image took a blow, but he's done far less than some of the coaches revered in college athletics like Kelvin (?) Sampson of IU, Hayes or Haynes or something like that, Bear Bryant, Bob Knight (why is it that I can think of basketball coaches?), whatshisface from Cincinnati that didn't care at all if his players ever went to class, and the list goes on.

He flipped the bird at Don Adam! HOLY CRAP! You'd think Hakstol relieved himself in the Holy Water at the Vatican the way some of you are judging him from on high.

[bison fan north of GF]

My opinion is that this is too harsh, thoughts?

What?? too harsh?? come on, you guys are so lame on discipline. Bina, Oshie and Towes(?) should have had 2 games out last yr. for the minor in a bar incident. Now Hextall (i know, hakstol) finally gets whats due. No one flips a ref off anywhere without consequences. In Fargo, where everyone wants to live, SU benched Jake Morris 2 games for stealin a sweater from Penneys, and benched Gordon for kickin in a window at a keg party at Moorhead State and should have done a better job when Rocky let those 2 guys off (Reggie Scott?) for the snowball fight with the campus cops. This is lame treatment for your nukker coach as he still gets full pay. The only thing you gotta worry about its that Eades loves this cause he wants the job so bad, he can taste it. Yea baby, go pea in an elevator and try get out of that, even if the power goes out. Ha, Ha, Ha.

[redwing77]

What?? too harsh?? come on, you guys are so lame on discipline. Bina, Oshie and Towes(?) should have had 2 games out last yr. for the minor in a bar incident. Now Hextall (i know, hakstol) finally gets whats due. No one flips a ref off anywhere without consequences. In Fargo, where everyone wants to live, SU benched Jake Morris 2 games for stealin a sweater from Penneys, and benched Gordon for kickin in a window at a keg party at Moorhead State and should have done a better job when Rocky let those 2 guys off (Reggie Scott?) for the snowball fight with the campus cops. This is lame treatment for your nukker coach as he still gets full pay. The only thing you gotta worry about its that Eades loves this cause he wants the job so bad, he can taste it. Yea baby, go pea in an elevator and try get out of that, even if the power goes out. Ha, Ha, Ha.

Uh... here's some vital differences for you:

1. Very few of us think that the punishment is too harsh.

2. Stealing a sweater....flipping the bird... Hmm... I don't get arrested for flipping someone off. You certainly do if you steal a sweater. Just sayin'.

3. Breaking a window with a foot... again... illegal.

4. What the EFF is a "nukker?" Or is that something that you NDSU fans like to yell at UND players like that one person at the NDSU vs UND basketball game a few years back in Fargo?

5. Try to make a point with salient facts. That means, counter it with disciplinary examples NDSU has done that is NOT correlated with BREAKING THE EFING LAW.

And by the way, I live in Fargo, and I can testify that not every NDSU fan is as blind and shallow as this guy.