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Why don't you guys pay the universities strong arm rates and get good seats then?

Don't hold your breath on that one. He is not going to get that much for it I bet. Very small market for it. People that buy these pieces of crap want their own design. Real riders would not be caught dead on it. Maybe a mid-lifr crisis Harley rider would buy it so that they could crash it like so many of them do.

It has much too do with the debate. Your arguement is that you are honoring the Native Americans of the state so how long have they been in the state? The rest of your arguement does not wash. Your comparing apples to oranges.

There has not been a decent Harley made since the Shovelhead. Whoever buys it will either strip it down for parts or repaint it. Best Harley made was the Panhead followed by the Knucklehead then by the Flathead. http://www.hydra-glide.com/ All can be found here.

Like the article said, "Read between the lines." "Hearing Mike Guentzel's reasons for resigning after 14 years as assistant coach of the Gophers men's hockey team, you would believe he has simply done it long enough. However, reading between the lines, you might conclude that leaving wasn't entirely his idea. Guentzel said he met with coach Don Lucia in the middle of the week, "and this was the decision that was made that was best for me and everybody else." He does not say he made the decision. If he had made the decision himself he would have said that he decided it was time.

Can we say groupthink?

This is where I got that he was fired from: http://www.twincities.com//ci_8980001?IADI....twincities.com The Pioneer Press writes it a little different than the Trib did.

Nothing on this? http://www.startribune.com/sports/gophers/17932749.html

Because I know a lot of the crowd that does this. Also from what I have heard from "real" long time fans, the ones who have had season tickets for 30 years.

Why more road games than home games?

This is not even close to being the same thing. You can try and spin it around all you want but it still does not work. When was the name Germany used for the country anyhow? A little over a hundred years? Using a name as a name for something is not the same as using an ethnic group to try and pump your sports teams up. Exactly when was it that the Lakota/Dakota people first moved to the Devils Lake region and why?

What even is your question?

The big ceremony that you alledge gave the university the right to the name was one guy who was only a member of the Standing Rock Tribe. When did UND start using the name and logo?

You are right I will not go to any games there.

If they chose to use the name that is their right. You just made the point for me. If the Native Americans wish to use the names of either Indians, Warriors, or whatever that is their right becaue it is who they are or were. Where as since you are not members of the Lakota or Dakota Nations then you do not have the right to use their name because it does not belong to you. You people are members of the Fighting Sioux Tribe which is not a recognized tribe by the Federal Government. I do not see you tribe at the Pow Wow this week. My error for equating people here with midgets. I put down the midgets who are on a higher evolutionary scale then you people. At least they have cognitive abilities. It is normal for people like you to put what they do not wish to hear on ignore. Head up the as& is easier to deal with than reality. When cherished values are threatened find a scapegoat to blame.

What is the question? It is very hard to understand a batch of mental midgets.

Marshall and Johnnie were out of Vegas when Ralph built the casino. Then how did Ralph keep the union out?

Which arena had a better atmosphere the old or the new? I much prefer the old because it was not such a see and be seen social event like the new.

What do you call someone who has Hitler birthday parties and a portrait painted of himself as an SS officer? The Gaming Commission had only given out one fine before Uncle Ralphies that was larger, that was to the Stardust for letting the Chicago Outfit skim the joint. How did he keep a union controlled by Chicago out when no one else could? The Gaming Commission called his collection the "War Room". Stevie Bluestein was a main business agent organizer at the time and he was also part of Tony Spilotro's crew out of Chicago. The president of the union got killed over not paying the bombers that he had bombing restaurants around the valley for not organizing. So then why was Uncle Ralphie allowed to be non-union? What about Uncle Ralphies partnership with a mob lawyer in Apex?

Go into Bensonhurst and start calling people dagos or wops and see how fast you get your as% kicked. The pure Italians that I know hate those names because they are deragatory. Also no instructors have taught me that the name is wrong, it is never even brought up in classes. I do not go through life with my hood on backwards. I have been watching UND hockey for longer than probably 90% of you and most likely have known more players on a personal level than any of you. I think Uncle Ralphie was a racist Nazi and the best front the Chicago Outfit ever had in Las Vegas. Those Hitler parties were not spoofs. I knew about them back in '86. He was very lucky to not have lost his license but I suppose crawling on your knees to the Gaming Com. did not hurt.

It is their right to use the name, UND does not have that right.

Spin all you want there is no difference that an educated person could see.

No you will not. Your argument lacks total merit. The dominant group can never understand the minority group nor do they care what the minority group thinks or feels. Do people of Polish decent like being called dumb fuc*ing Polacks? Do Irish like being called Micks? Do French like being called Frogs? It does not make sense because you choose for it not to make sense. This will probably get me banned from these boards because I have found if you are against the logo you can be banned. I love how a public forum can be created but don't go against the tide because we don't want that so you are banned. We only want one opinion shared here, ours.

Should we call all Italians Wops, Guinies(sp?) Greaseballs, Dagos, you will never understand.

Problem with Kidder is he always forgot that he played defense and not forward.