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I think BU recently has skewed the expectations of the number of 1st round picks that college usually gets. They have been good, but you could make an argument that UND has been better with much less talent. People talk about Wolanin being our leading scorer as this huge knock on our recruiting, but in fact he had as many points as anybody on BU as well.

Yes, we could use blue chippers, but if they are going to be here for only a short time, they have to be all in or else I would rather have someone else that is. Don’t need any Kieffer Bellows types that are there to pad stats before they move on. Not sure of Wahlstrom’s motivations, but how will guys that might not be all in react to adversity or put their body on the line. I remember Hakstol having sit downs with guys who had opportunity to move on that announced they were staying to make sure their minds were focused on the right priorities. That is a huge part of it. Guys like Jost gave their all in every situation for the benefit of the team. Find guys like that and I don’t mind leaving after a year or two.

Then what are people complaining about, that it isn't benefiting UND as much as it is hockey. Go figure.

If you believe that was Ralph's main purpose in giving the arena, then I can't help you. Everyone knows that Ralph gave it and set it up as he did to help the hockey program remain at the top, then let it benefit the University through the hockey team staying on top.

You say UND is maxed out in hockey but you say it isn't that profitable, but in the same breath you say it needs to support the other programs like NDSU football does.

I am willing to bet that you would have less than 50 percent of the money that the Champions Club brings in if it wasn't for hockey. The only reason that a lot of people are members is because it is required to get season hockey tickets.

Don't feel too sorry, they will probably be the favorite in our league this year.

Might need to tell that to UND "FOOTBALL FAN" and others that try to wedge one program against the other.

I was under the impression that upgrades were from donations. With so many more football alumni than hockey, you would think that they could get some donations from them for things like that and salary upgrades for coaches.

I know ushers in most venues go to the area to make sure nobody is hurt.

Yeah, sometimes perception is the problem. I know if I was Berry going after a recruit that had NHL aspirations (Rizzo) I would tout my experience of getting people to the next level which depending on the athlete could be a benefit. Carle could use some of the guys who just left, but that probably is attributed more to Monty.

True, but I think Carle still has a lot to learn, and would rather be out on the recruiting trail against him rather than Bazin.

Would think hiring someone that has a ton of experience would help a little more in recruiting, even if David Carle is an up and comer.

We made room for JBD, and would have been pretty good at that position without him coming in a year early, so I agree it wouldn't hurt to have another player comparable to Hain that would give us better odds of having one of them making an impact for us in an area we had problems with last year. I will be watching Weiss closely next year if he plays college. It seems odd that teams like Michigan that have an overabundance of recruits can make room for guys and we can't. I always thought since we didn't over recruit we would be able to maneuver our classes a bit to make room for the late bloomer or transfer. Having the last year junior players that are depth and character guys seems like they should be late recruits, not ones we have had in the pipeline for years, unless they were projected for more than what they ended up being. Like I said, be interested to see where some of these guys end up and how they pan out.

To be fair, he put up similar numbers to Jost. Jost had 16 goals 19 assists in 33 games and Mittelstadt had 11 and 19 in 34, and one could argue a better cast of players for Jost with Poolman, Wolanin and sometimes Boeser.

Have you tried it since they switched the bread? I thought it was pretty good, but I haven't been a grinder regular over the years.

For real?

Something on replay is a lot different than in game speed, and the reaction certainly would lead one to believe that it was a high stick.

Yeah, could just be that they are bringing in JBD and that wasn’t originally the plan, and moving Casey Johnson to forward to make up for Senden not coming. Since Schlossman left off Senden on his list of people coming in, maybe that is the case. Wish they had a late recruit that might be able to make an impact, but not holding my breath.

Are they looking at bringing in a new recruit for this upcoming season?

Might not have the ICON arena without their help, but that’s hockey so we should rip on them for not donating to something for other sports.

Basically they need to improve the penalty kill and power play a bit and a lot of those ties change into wins. It won’t take much, but they definitely have to improve because there is not much difference on the down side either.

Wondering if someone else is in the mix and pushing him off would force him to look elsewhere.

Several people have expressed that other sports have been hurt by this bad deal. Look back on the thread.

I don’t think most of us think he is wrong, just the poor way in which he has gone about it.