petey23 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Have heard that from so many fanbases, mostly Gopher fans(who by the way had 2 of the oldest guys ever to play in the WCHA in Woog and Debus) but others as well, even heard it this weekend in St. Cloud. So is it true? Doesn't seem to add up? UND Freshman Forwards(ages are how old they are or will be by seasons end) avg. 19.8 Trupp 20 Frattin 20 Davidson 21 Malone 18 SCSU Freshman Forwards avg. 19.7 Mosey 19 Marvin 19 Roe 20 Barta 21 Osland 20 Volpei 19 UND Sophmore Forwards avg. 20.3 Zajac 21 Vandevelde 21 Forney 19 SCSU Sophmore Forwards avg. 21.3 Lasch 21 Nodl 21 Peckscamp 22 UND Junior Forwards avg. 21.7 Oshie 21 Martens 23 Kozek 21 Miller 22 Duncan 22 Watkins 21 SCSU Junior Forwards avg. 23 Borgen 23 Olson 23 UND Senior Forwards avg. 23 Kaip 24 Radke 22 SCSU Senior Forwards avg. 23.7 Mjelli 25 Hartmann 23 Dey 23 UND Freshman D avg. 20 Lapoint 19 Marto 21 SCSU has no freshman D UND Sophmore D avg. 21 Genoway 21 SCSU Sophmore D avg. 21.7 Ammerman 20 Raboin 23 Gaudet 22 UND Junior D 20.3 Finley 20 Chorney 20 Jones 21 SCSU Junior D avg. 22.5 Carlisle 23 Swanson 22 UND Senior D avg. 25 Bina 25* *had medical redshirt season SCSU Senior D avg. 23 Brocklehurst 22 Anderson 23 Stephenson 24 Doesn't add up? Next excuse? edited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 That is the silly argument that Goofer fans like Happy use. We haven't had a 25 year old canadian for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captsioux Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Im starting to believe that goofer fans learned their math from florida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxMeNow Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 OR spendy Italian shoes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Im starting to believe that goofer fans learned their math from florida. Their math can't be that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxMeNow Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Thier math can't be that bad. or as bad as your sad dog avatar looks...like you NEVER take him out...sad dog indeed!! BUT You're the king of criticsism so have at it...I'm SURE you know best... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAR Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 stupid thread.....no comment needed....opposing fans have used this as an excuse as to why they can't handle the Sioux in years past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 or as bad as your sad dog avatar looks...like you NEVER take him out...sad dog indeed!! BUT You're the king of criticsism so have at it...I'm SURE you know best... What the hell are you talking about? Never take my dog out? By your silly comments your definately not a Lab owner. I took him out for walk today and we were out hunting the other day. Yeah ok... I am pretty sure I am not the king of criticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happy Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 That is the silly argument that Goofer fans like Happy use. We haven't had a 25 year old canadian for a long time. You haven't won a Championship in a long time, either. UND's recruiting has been forced to change, first when the NCAA ban stopped the use of former Major Junior players and the age limit, the expansion of the NHL signing everyone in sight, and lately, with the inability of UND to get older Canadians due to changes in Major Junior eduction benefits. UND built the majority of it's championship teams on having older more Canadian team than teams like Minnesota, and that brought with it many advantages. those days are gone, and now UND is forced, like all the other upper wcha teams, to try to grab younger and younger talent. Often, this talent is awesome, but it tends to be inconsistent, and, with the NHL willing to sign great NCAA talent earlier and earlier, it's gone before it ever gets to mature. Just think of what Toews would do for you if he had lasted four years. hey, look at it this way, your teams were older back when you won championships, now you are just watching NHL draft picks come and go. At least your players aren't going pro in the middle of the season. and, the reason I am very against the past use of older Canadians was the bad effect it had on developing American hockey, for every Canadian that got a scholarship, that was one less American who could have got a degree, and helped out the expansion of American hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share Posted January 7, 2008 You haven't won a Championship in a long time, either. UND's recruiting has been forced to change, first when the NCAA ban stopped the use of former Major Junior players and the age limit, the expansion of the NHL signing everyone in sight, and lately, with the inability of UND to get older Canadians due to changes in Major Junior eduction benefits. UND built the majority of it's championship teams on having older more Canadian team than teams like Minnesota, and that brought with it many advantages. those days are gone, and now UND is forced, like all the other upper wcha teams, to try to grab younger and younger talent. Often, this talent is awesome, but it tends to be inconsistent, and, with the NHL willing to sign great NCAA talent earlier and earlier, it's gone before it ever gets to mature. Just think of what Toews would do for you if he had lasted four years. hey, look at it this way, your teams were older back when you won championships, now you are just watching NHL draft picks come and go. At least your players aren't going pro in the middle of the season. and, the reason I am very against the past use of older Canadians was the bad effect it had on developing American hockey, for every Canadian that got a scholarship, that was one less American who could have got a degree, and helped out the expansion of American hockey. While I agree with some of your points, would it surprise you to find out that UND has not ever had a 25 year old player win a national title(at least one of the last 5 anyway)? 1980 -none, no one older than 23 1982- none, no one older than 22 1987-none, no one older than 23 1997- none, 2 24 year olds 2000-none, very young team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 You haven't won a Championship in a long time, either. I think your confusing us with some other team. I can't remember any players at UND that were over 25 in all my years of watching UND hockey, which is since 1992. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAR Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 While I agree with some of your points, would it surprise you to find out that UND has not ever had a 25 year old player win a national title(at least one of the last 5 anyway)? 1980 -none, no one older than 23 1982- none, no one older than 22 1987-none, no one older than 23 1997- none, 2 24 year olds 2000-none, very young team THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux rube Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 While I agree with some of your points, would it surprise you to find out that UND has not ever had a 25 year old player win a national title(at least one of the last 5 anyway)? 1980 -none, no one older than 23 1982- none, no one older than 22 1987-none, no one older than 23 1997- none, 2 24 year olds 2000-none, very young team Way to put him in a box petey23.Take that happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux_Hab-it Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Nice that one of the biggest spreaders of Sioux Hockey misinformation would expose himself on this site. Oh well if it keeps everyone in UMTC "Happy" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxnami Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 When I first saw the title of this thread I thought this might be the MTU vs. Sioux thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 You must be looking at Frattin's "other ID" according to the roster, he turned 20 last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squirtcoach Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 What's not to love about Canadians, Happy? I love Canadians. I was at the game in St. Cloud Saturday with a Canadian. Great guy. However, giving Austrians scholarships when they could go to Minnesotans, I have a "Happy-sized" problem with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Question: "25 year old Canadians at UND, Where did they go?" Answer: The nursing home? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airmail Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 And here I thought they were all "26" year-old Canadians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA Hockey Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 Today's game is different from when Blais coached, back then recruiting all four year players was a good route, today it isn't and the numbers show for it. The teams that are in the frozen four and the teams that are winning national championships are not four year teams, they are teams that recruit top talent. I think the coaches realize this, which is why we recruit a mix of top level talent and four year players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 You haven't won a Championship in a long time, either. UND's recruiting has been forced to change, first when the NCAA ban stopped the use of former Major Junior players and the age limit, the expansion of the NHL signing everyone in sight, and lately, with the inability of UND to get older Canadians due to changes in Major Junior eduction benefits. UND built the majority of it's championship teams on having older more Canadian team than teams like Minnesota, and that brought with it many advantages. those days are gone, and now UND is forced, like all the other upper wcha teams, to try to grab younger and younger talent. Often, this talent is awesome, but it tends to be inconsistent, and, with the NHL willing to sign great NCAA talent earlier and earlier, it's gone before it ever gets to mature. Just think of what Toews would do for you if he had lasted four years. hey, look at it this way, your teams were older back when you won championships, now you are just watching NHL draft picks come and go. At least your players aren't going pro in the middle of the season. and, the reason I am very against the past use of older Canadians was the bad effect it had on developing American hockey, for every Canadian that got a scholarship, that was one less American who could have got a degree, and helped out the expansion of American hockey. great point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Whistler Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 I think your confusing us with some other team. I can't remember any players at UND that were over 25 in all my years of watching UND hockey, which is since 1992. The last older player I remember was Jason Blake who was 25 or 26 in his senior year. He had transferred from Ferris Bueller State and had to take a year off because of the transfer. Of course he was from Moorhead so that's ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slap Shot Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 The last older player I remember was Jason Blake who was 25 or 26 in his senior year. He had transferred from Ferris Bueller State and had to take a year off because of the transfer. Of course he was from Moorhead so that's ok. One of my favorite players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB#11 Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 While I agree with some of your points, would it surprise you to find out that UND has not ever had a 25 year old player win a national title(at least one of the last 5 anyway)? 1980 -none, no one older than 23 1982- none, no one older than 22 1987-none, no one older than 23 1997- none, 2 24 year olds 2000-none, very young team North Dakota(7)>Minnesota(5) petey23>happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux-cia Posted January 7, 2008 Share Posted January 7, 2008 North Dakota(7)>Minnesota(5) petey23>happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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