AZSIOUX Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 im thinking Ottawa hasn't talked a whole lot to him yet which is why no announcement. Seriously, it is not like they have had anything else on their minds lately. I'm sure there will be an anoucement soon, as to whether or not it is he is going or staying, that is up to Brian. disagree, if ottawa says you are not ready for the nhl or ahl and we want to you to stay at und for 1 more year then its not up to brian, i say hes gone and plays a solid season in the ahl Quote
ScottM Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 Although I still think Brian will sign as soon as the bonus money is worked out, seeing the Sens get their azzes beat up by the Ducks makes me wonder if Ottawa will re-think bring him in as he will not change the dynamic their current d-corps bring to the ice. Might the Sens instead decide to go after some big hitters? Well, they should definitely get a few d-men who aren't afraid to go into the corners or protect their blue line, so I doubt Lee would help there. Pretty sad state of affairs for the NHL if these two teams are "the best". Quote
skateshattrick Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 Well, they should definitely get a few d-men who aren't afraid to go into the corners or protect their blue line, so I doubt Lee would help there. Pretty sad state of affairs for the NHL if these two teams are "the best". They are not "the best", they just happen to be the two teams that survived. Check out this article by notorious Red Wings basher/hater Ted Montgomery, who says that the best team in the Wings-Ducks series did not win. www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/columnist/montgomery/2007-06-05-pronger-finals_N.htm. Any objective person who watched Games 3, 4 and 5 of that series should agree. Quote
Goon Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 They are not "the best", they just happen to be the two teams that survived. Check out this article by notorious Red Wings basher/hater Ted Montgomery, who says that the best team in the Wings-Ducks series did not win. www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/columnist/montgomery/2007-06-05-pronger-finals_N.htm. Any objective person who watched Games 3, 4 and 5 of that series should agree. Thanks for posting that article. My next question to this guy is granted Pronger's hit was questionable, and it debatable wether he should have be suspended. I am cool with the suspension because he is a repeat offender, however, what about Chris Neil? The guy's game consists of one questionable play after another. Last night during the game in the Second Period I believe; Neil was head hunting a duck player in the offensive zone. Now Neil didn't connect because he isn't a good enough player to keep up iwth the skilled boys but it he would have it would have been worse than Prongers hit. Quote
Fetch Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 I think when their names go on the Cup, they will go down in history as the best this year I missed most of the playoffs - Now I wish I had watched more - but in the Finals the Ducks were difinitely the best Quote
skateshattrick Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 Thanks for posting that article. My next question to this guy is granted Pronger's hit was questionable, and it debatable wether he should have be suspended. I am cool with the suspension because he is a repeat offender, however, what about Chris Neil? The guy's game consists of one questionable play after another. Last night during the game in the Second Period I believe; Neil was head hunting a duck player in the offensive zone. Now Neil didn't connect because he isn't a good enough player to keep up iwth the skilled boys but it he would have it would have been worse than Prongers hit. No disagreement. He is as bad or worse than anyone on the Ducks. Alfredsson's slap shot on Niedermeyer was also inexcusable. However, the Ducks are not very likeable because they have this penchant for running goalies and attempting to take out key players--if you saw the hit on Holmstrom, who was Detroit's most effective player to that point--you may agree with that assessment. Don't get me wrong--the Ducks are skilled and they are the champions. They also deserve the Cup and earned it. They were clearly better than Ottawa. I just get annoyed when I hear that the Ducks "physical play" is the reason they are champions. The truth is that they play on the edge and they got a bit lucky against the Wings (which you need to win championships) because they were outplayed for a majority of that series. Detroit matched them physically, and outshot, outchanced and outplayed them for most of that series. Giguere and a little bit of puck luck were the difference. Although the Ducks won and are deserving, it is my opinion (others may disagree) that the best team did not win which apparently is shared by at least one writer who ironically is always ripping the Wings. As Jason Noterman said, "hockey is a funny game." Quote
Goon Posted June 7, 2007 Posted June 7, 2007 No disagreement. He is as bad or worse than anyone on the Ducks. Alfredsson's slap shot on Niedermeyer was also inexcusable. However, the Ducks are not very likeable because they have this penchant for running goalies and attempting to take out key players--if you saw the hit on Holmstrom, who was Detroit's most effective player to that point--you may agree with that assessment. Don't get me wrong--the Ducks are skilled and they are the champions. They also deserve the Cup and earned it. They were clearly better than Ottawa. I just get annoyed when I hear that the Ducks "physical play" is the reason they are champions. The truth is that they play on the edge and they got a bit lucky against the Wings (which you need to win championships) because they were outplayed for a majority of that series. Detroit matched them physically, and outshot, outchanced and outplayed them for most of that series. Giguere and a little bit of puck luck were the difference. Although the Ducks won and are deserving, it is my opinion (others may disagree) that the best team did not win which apparently is shared by at least one writer who ironically is always ripping the Wings. As Jason Noterman said, "hockey is a funny game." I am not going to argue with what you said. I guess I would rather be lucky than good and a few bounces definately went the Ducks way. I thought they were lucky to win the first two games of the finals. Quote
siouxhockey5 Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 anyone see the story on WDAZ last night and what it was about with Brian, saw it but couldnt hear it. Siouxhockey5 Quote
wakeboarding_crazed Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 I didn't see the broadcast, but I hope it was an announcement that Brian is staying for another year at UND. We need all the experience back on D for a strong title run next season, and Lee is an important cog in the mix. Quote
teamsioux Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 He stated final decision hadn't been made yet, I believe he also referenced that Ottawa had been busy. He said there is no deadline as to when final decision will be made. IMO, he is waiting for an offer or a bigger one, very non-committal either way. Quote
HockeyMom Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Way to stick up for yourself, I respect that. Did your Dad teach you to always stand up for yourself to or should Mom get credit for that? You have a problem with moms? Quote
NorthDakotaHockey Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 I can't believe that they sent Paris Hilton back to jail!! I think that I saw Brian sitting with her family in the courtroom . . . . Contract talks can wait. Paris is burning. Quote
greenwinger_13 Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 I saw that broadcast last night too... i also did not hear it i don't understand why he would leave this year so why not just tell us your staying.. Quote
AZSIOUX Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 I saw that broadcast last night too... i also did not hear it i don't understand why he would leave this year so why not just tell us your staying.. well he may not say hes staying because hes trying to work out a deal to sign if that doesnt work out then he will stay obviously, who knows....."yawns" Quote
siouxforeverbaby Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 disagree, if ottawa says you are not ready for the nhl or ahl and we want to you to stay at und for 1 more year then its not up to brian, i say hes gone and plays a solid season in the ahl ok, you have me there. though if they say here is what we will offer you to come though we think that you should stay at UND for one more year, it is still up to him on whether or not he dots that I in his name and puts it down on that line. Now, before you jump all over me, that is hypothetically and I am in no way a hockey expert who knows what the Sens are thinking. Quote
AZSIOUX Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 ok, you have me there. though if they say here is what we will offer you to come though we think that you should stay at UND for one more year, it is still up to him on whether or not he dots that I in his name and puts it down on that line. Now, before you jump all over me, that is hypothetically and I am in no way a hockey expert who knows what the Sens are thinking. ya never know i guess.....i still think hes going Quote
USA Hockey Posted June 8, 2007 Posted June 8, 2007 Typically the longer a player waits the more they want to leave. What could happen is you could have situation similar to Okposo where he wanted to sign but the organization didn't feel he is ready, which I wouldn't blaim Ottawa because I don't feel Brian is ready for the NHL level. Sometimes it's not always based on what the player wants to do but more what the NHL organization wants the player to do. Quote
AZSIOUX Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 Typically the longer a player waits the more they want to leave. What could happen is you could have situation similar to Okposo where he wanted to sign but the organization didn't feel he is ready, which I wouldn't blaim Ottawa because I don't feel Brian is ready for the NHL level. Sometimes it's not always based on what the player wants to do but more what the NHL organization wants the player to do. and to go along with your comment, they would say maybe the AHL would be better for a year as you are not ready for the nhl and to that the player doesnt like so they come back for another year in college. Quote
Sioux Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 does ottowa have a farm team? if not, then where would he go? i recall hearing someone say that they dont. i could be wrong. Quote
dallassiouxfan Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 does ottowa have a farm team? if not, then where would he go? i recall hearing someone say that they dont. i could be wrong. Your wrong. Every NHL team has to have some sort of minor league farm system. How else would they develop players? http://www.binghamtonsenators.com/ Quote
petey23 Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 Anyone think that Brian may want to go and Ottowa offered him the standard deal(not the max and certainly a very small bonus) and said we think you should stay at UND and develop but if you want to go to the AHL here is your deal(2 way contract for sure)? I have a feeling that is kind of what happened with Okposo. Quote
HockeyMom Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 What if he doesn't feel that he's developing the way he would have liked to at UND? Quote
USA Hockey Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 Anyone think that Brian may want to go and Ottowa offered him the standard deal(not the max and certainly a very small bonus) and said we think you should stay at UND and develop but if you want to go to the AHL here is your deal(2 way contract for sure)? I have a feeling that is kind of what happened with Okposo. That's what I was saying above. Quote
Goon Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 What if he doesn't feel that he's developing the way he would have liked to at UND? I suppose you could ask that question. I would say that UND has done a pretty good job developing Commie, Greene, Jones et al... Possible... Quote
Goon Posted June 9, 2007 Posted June 9, 2007 Anyone think that Brian may want to go and Ottowa offered him the standard deal(not the max and certainly a very small bonus) and said we think you should stay at UND and develop but if you want to go to the AHL here is your deal(2 way contract for sure)? I have a feeling that is kind of what happened with Okposo. That is what I read too for KO... Quote
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