Chuck Schwartz Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share Posted April 11, 2007 Which means he would only have less than 1 year of D experience prior to 2008. My point is I think we want him at D next year so that we have more experienced D in 08. He's got plenty of experince on defense. You can't look down the road to project 2008 playing time right now. As it stands (saying that no defense go pro) Chorney, Lee, Finley, Bina, Jones, Genoway, and LaPoint have to play every night. Since you usually only dress 6 defense that leaves one out. Since Genoway can play forward...I would assume he moves up. None of Chorney, Lee, Finley, Bina, Jones, or LaPoint are going to be sitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxhockeyfan11 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 i think that lee is gone and insert lapoint in his spot there is a nice d core. i also think marto should get his shot he's added some weight now and could be a good 4 year player at und Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dagies Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 He's got plenty of experince on defense. You can't look down the road to project 2008 playing time right now. As it stands (saying that no defense go pro) Chorney, Lee, Finley, Bina, Jones, Genoway, and LaPoint have to play every night. Since you usually only dress 6 defense that leaves one out. Since Genoway can play forward...I would assume he moves up. None of Chorney, Lee, Finley, Bina, Jones, or LaPoint are going to be sitting. Defense is a tough thing to learn at this level and Genoway lacks the size advantage to help him in some situations. Genoway has great skills and can be a good defenseman, but there were times this season where his lack of size and experience really hurt him back by the net. That said, in the scenario as you lay it out, he would be the more likely candidate to move to forward. But in that scenario, if he moves back to D in 2008, I don't think he would be as proficient as he could be, but that might just have to be the way things have to be. Part of my answer stems from this year where, even though the Sioux struggled to score up front, the coaches seemed that they wanted Genoway back at D. Maybe this was because they anticipated next year's log jam, I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickboy1956 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Defense is a tough thing to learn at this level and Genoway lacks the size advantage to help him in some situations. Genoway has great skills and can be a good defenseman, but there were times this season where his lack of size and experience really hurt him back by the net. That said, in the scenario as you lay it out, he would be the more likely candidate to move to forward. But in that scenario, if he moves back to D in 2008, I don't think he would be as proficient as he could be, but that might just have to be the way things have to be. Part of my answer stems from this year where, even though the Sioux struggled to score up front, the coaches seemed that they wanted Genoway back at D. Maybe this was because they anticipated next year's log jam, I don't know. D is a logjam if no one leaves early. If Lee or Finley leaves, Lapoint slides in to that spot and that is your top 6 for the majority of the season. D is a tough position to play, and after the fine rookie season Genoway had, it would not make sense to throw that experience away and have him spend a year at forward - and then potentially move back to D the following year. I'm sure the staff were projecting at least one early departure from Lee/Chorney/Finley - especially after the 05 entry draft. It actually would make their lives easier if one would go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 And if no D leave, it also creates a logjam at forward, because Hakstol will almost be forced to put Genoway as a forward (and keep Radke there). With a top 6 of Bina, Chorney, Lee, Jones, Finley, LaPoint and plus Genoway and Marto, it definitely puts Marto as the odd man out. That's unfortunate that he won't be getting much game experience because we'll need it for 08-09 when Bina, Radke, Chorney, Lee, and Finley will all be gone. If Toews or Oshie (or both) decide to stay, I wouldn't be surprised if Hextall or Malone stays in juniors for another season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejm Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 All this speculation is intriguing, and makes for great conversation, but looking at the projected line combos here makes me realize what huge holes Porter and Fabian are leaving! Wow! Big changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Time Hockey Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Genoway is money on the blue line and it would be crazy to move him to forward. No early defectors this year. Toews and Oshie have unfinished business! #8 in '08! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsSiouxGreen Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Genoway is money on the blue line and it would be crazy to move him to forward. No early defectors this year. Toews and Oshie have unfinished business! #8 in '08! I agree! Duncan announced he is coming back, Oshie will follow next, and then Toews wont want to leave that line after the domination the second half of the season. He stated "What my teammates think is going to be very important to me, because they are the ones who know me best." #8 in '08!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Time Hockey Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I agree! Duncan announced he is coming back, Oshie will follow next, and then Toews wont want to leave that line after the domination the second half of the season. He stated "What my teammates think is going to be very important to me, because they are the ones who know me best." #8 in '08!! Hopefully they all work on each other to stay! Still it is very hard to say no to the big $'s. I hope we don't have to wait that long to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB#11 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I agree! Duncan announced he is coming back, Oshie will follow next, and then Toews wont want to leave that line after the domination the second half of the season. He stated "What my teammates think is going to be very important to me, because they are the ones who know me best." #8 in '08!! Don't forget about Taylor Chorney...he's a HUGE part of next years team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I agree! Duncan announced he is coming back, Oshie will follow next, and then Toews wont want to leave that line after the domination the second half of the season. He stated "What my teammates think is going to be very important to me, because they are the ones who know me best.” #8 in '08!! Crazier things have happened, but I agree that Oshie is next to stay and then Toews will have a tough choice...and decides to stay as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsSiouxGreen Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Don't forget about Taylor Chorney...he's a HUGE part of next years team. I am pumped Chorney is returning! He is our core defenseman. It is very possible he may wear the "C" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I am pumped Chorney is returning! He is our core defenseman. It is very possible he may wear the "C" Taylor would be a good choice, but my money is on Bina especially after all he has gone thru. Addendum: Toews wears the "C" if he returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickboy1956 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I don't know if any of you have seen this but here is some video of Derrick LaPoint from the 05-06 season in Wisconsin. http://mfile.akamai.com/16532/wmv/nhl.down...LaPoint_700.asx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray77 Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I don't know if any of you have seen this but here is some video of Derrick LaPoint from the 05-06 season in Wisconsin. http://mfile.akamai.com/16532/wmv/nhl.down...LaPoint_700.asx I hope he goes and plays Junior before coming to UND! Looks like he could use a year of seasoning/maturing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianvf Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I hope he goes and plays Junior before coming to UND! Looks like he could use a year of seasoning/maturing. He has been playing in the USHL this entire year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Time Hockey Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Next years first line Duncan, Oshie, and Toews! Come on JT, fall in with the rest of your teammates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray77 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 He has been playing in the USHL this entire year. Duh...I knew that...sorry. I guess watching that high school footage made my brain go numb. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I am pumped Chorney is returning! He is our core defenseman. It is very possible he may wear the "C" OSHIE - C CHORNEY - A KAIP - A BINA - A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux-cia Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 OSHIE - C CHORNEY - A KAIP - A BINA - A Duncan - C Chorney - A Oshie - A Bina - A Or better yet Duncan - C Chorney - A Towes -A Bina - A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schwartz Posted April 12, 2007 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 I think next year it's Chorney's team. He deserves the C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big A HG Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I saw LaPoint play with Green Bay this past winter, great skater, great passer. Good offensive sense. Not the most physical defensemen, but gets the job done defensively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZSIOUX Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I think next year it's Chorney's team. He deserves the C. yeah, you may be right chorney - C oshie - A duncan - A bina - A cant remember our captains or A's in the past but do players usually wear a letter then maybe not wear one the next season? just thinking of kaip here..how often does a goalie wear a letter, cant be often. didnt briggs wear one this last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickboy1956 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I saw LaPoint play with Green Bay this past winter, great skater, great passer. Good offensive sense. Not the most physical defensemen, but gets the job done defensively. 2nd in the league scoring among D I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 chorney - C oshie - A duncan - A bina - C How about something like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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