Dartmouth joins the anti-Sioux crusade

[Smoggy]

I would hope that ND people could behave better than those Ivy Leaguers, but the name changers need to take a lesson from this fiasco going on out east. Changing the name changes nothing, because the name is not the amswer to the problem.

[redwing77]

And Name and Logo Change supporters like our newest member, 'dumbpeoplesuk' can say what ever they like about Name and Logo supporters and you have no comment?!? What a bunch of b/s.

Cue the obligatory "I don't like what dubpeoplesuk said either but..."

Remember, part of the Logo Change crowd's "fire" that they breathe comes from only ingesting the information they want to believe and completely disregarding or brushing off the information they don't want to see.

Seriously undsportsfan, thanks for proving my point about racism being a racist term.

[ScottM]

okay, now people argue that the nickname just opens the door wide open to racism... and comments like this can easily be stated that they've been caused by the nickname debate...

how can you all say you're being respectful towards native americans? what a bunch of b/s.

[dumbpeoplesuk]

Question is, who"s campus is more hostile? It would appears its hands down Darthmouth and not the UND like their AD is claiming. This is shameful. I was thinking about sending the Dartmouth AD a letter of my own but I am not sure how to write a letter to a clueless pompus lvy leaguer.

For the answer to that and other questions, all you need to do is look at all the forum postings under "Sioux Name" on this message board site. You guys are all sounding pretty hostile and abusive. Not only towards a race of people, but also towards issues of homosexuality, you name it!

[dumbpeoplesuk]

Umm ... Code Orange today.

Florida State University, whose teams are called the Seminoles, decided they had to have a secret meeting to determine an alternative team name in case politically correct pressures forced them to change the name. The university trustees met one afternoon and argued different choices half the night. Finally, at 3 a.m. they agreed on a new alternative name for their teams: The Florida State Bingo Casino Executives.

Linky

grow up -- no opinion is allowed to be addressed here except the racist one or what? Sick and elitist racists -- that is a new brand for me!

[dumbpeoplesuk]

I would hope that ND people could behave better than those Ivy Leaguers, but the name changers need to take a lesson from this fiasco going on out east. Changing the name changes nothing, because the name is not the amswer to the problem.

It is proven fact, though, that it perpetuates the stereotypes that are already out there. So, what harm does it do? You all won't have anything to gripe about and get upset and obsess about? That is about all the harm done. It has also been proven that alumni support does not dwindle, but is heightened with a name change at a major university level. So, again, where is the harm? I suppose nobody will respond to the question either since I am such a "troll."

[Sioux-cia]

http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2006111702020

So, given what has happened at the wonderful, Pro-Native American institution of higher learning - Dartmouth, IF and when the University of North Dakota decides to retire the Fighting Sioux name and logo and if the UND community reacts to the retirement in the same manner as the Dartmouth community has, we can look forward to an abundent 'hostile and abusive' actions against all minorities (none of which occur in the here and now at UND), Native Americans included, for the next three plus decades. Hmmm......

But, fellow members, we will then be hailed as a premiere school by the NC$$ because we will not have a Native American name and logo.

OK, I think I get it now.

[Goon]

For the answer to that and other questions, all you need to do is look at all the forum postings under "Sioux Name" on this message board site. You guys are all sounding pretty hostile and abusive. Not only towards a race of people, but also towards issues of homosexuality, you name it!

You forgot anti-Gopher too.

[choyt3]

Then there's always the hostility towards the spoiled rich white girls that so want to be popular that they feel activism is the only way to go. Don't forget to mention that one. We're a tough lot, the posters at siouxsports.com.

[Goon]

Then there's always the hostility towards the spoiled rich white girls that so want to be popular that they feel activism is the only way to go. Don't forget to mention that one. We're a tough lot, the posters at siouxsports.com.

I thought we wore HALOS.

[ScottM]

grow up -- no opinion is allowed to be addressed here except the racist one or what? Sick and elitist racists -- that is a new brand for me!

Oh cupcake, I really appreciate having you around. You get so wrapped up in your own utopian ideals and get so angry when others don't appreciate your viewpoints. If it makes you feel better, I do find you and your ilk rather amusing. Please, keep up the good work.

[Sioux-cia]

You forgot anti-Gopher too.

Phew!!!!!!! I'm just glad SS.com hasn't banned Mexican-Americans or Jewish people. Otherwise, where would RW77 and I get to play!?!

Is there a thread on Fighing Sioux homosexuality issues that I missed?

[Sioux-cia]

Sick and elitist racists -- that is a new brand for me!

Yes, dear, 'sick and elitist racist' fits you very well.

[PCM]

So, again, where is the harm? I suppose nobody will respond to the question either since I am such a "troll."

Because you admit that changing the name will have no effect, what's the harm in leaving the name as it is?

[redwing77]

Because you admit that changing the name will have no effect, what's the harm in leaving the name as it is?

I thought no one was going to respond because of all the poster attacking he's been doing.

[Diggler]

I wish I could be sick and elitist. Or at least elitist. Being sick isn't fun. Especially when you are shooting things out of the entrance and exit.

[Sioux-cia]

I wish I could be sick and elitist. Or at least elitist. Being sick isn't fun. Especially when you are shooting things out of the entrance and exit.

Poor baby. Clear liquids, rest and no dairy products until it stops.

*oh, oh, am I being a racist against dairy farmers now?*

[HockeyMom]

Especially when you are shooting things out of the entrance and exit.

lol- today the avatar yelled, "FINALLY IT'S IN ONE BIG PIECE INSTEAD OF A BUNCH OF LITTLE PIECES!" in Sam's Club. Fortunately for us it was only coming out one end.

[star2city]

Diversity at Dartmouth: Of pigment, but not opinion

AT DARTMOUTH College, diversity is all the rage. Until someone disagrees with the majority point of view.

This semester a group of Indian activists has responded to a series of perceived and actual slights by demanding complete adherence to its view of the world.

Dartmouth President James Wright actually suggested that, in the name of tolerance, the university might stop tolerating speech that offends others.

But tolerance goes both ways. Demanding respect for one's own views while attempting to silence -- by force or intimidation -- the views of others is the definition of intolerance.

It is clear that at Dartmouth the only diversity not valued is diversity of opinion.

[GeauxSioux]

Dartmouth responds back to Kupchella's letter.

UND NICKNAME: Dartmouth sends letter to Kupchella, calls Hoeven

As for his letter to Kupchella, which was mailed Monday, Wright said,

[dumbpeoplesuk]

Because you admit that changing the name will have no effect, what's the harm in leaving the name as it is?

Oh that is ridiculous. You know where the harm is -- you and all of Grand Forks -- well, North Dakota for that matter -- have been told that it DOES HURT. If a child says, stop, that hurts, we all teach them to quit doing the thing that hurts. Since I have been hurt, over and over on this logo stuff, why can't you just quit bullying and give up that name? Also, my children have been hurt over it so that makes you all guilty of child endangerment, so to speak. If you have not heard about an incident directly related to the logo, that is because SOMEONE has covered it up. This is all logical reasoning.

[Sioux-cia]

Dartmouth.............

[dumbpeoplesuk]

http://www.thedartmouth.com/article.php?aid=2006111702020

So, given what has happened at the wonderful, Pro-Native American institution of higher learning - Dartmouth, IF and when the University of North Dakota decides to retire the Fighting Sioux name and logo and if the UND community reacts to the retirement in the same manner as the Dartmouth community has, we can look forward to an abundent 'hostile and abusive' actions against all minorities (none of which occur in the here and now at UND), Native Americans included, for the next three plus decades. Hmmm......

But, fellow members, we will then be hailed as a premiere school by the NC$$ because we will not have a Native American name and logo.

OK, I think I get it now.

Well, you are not expecting anything new, then, are you? Because you already perpetuate a hostile and abusive environment. I have had black friends that have told me that "at least in the South, they are all outright racist to your face...here, they just smile and then stab you in the back." I agree -- I have seen racism at its worst. You folks are doing a good job of seeing to it that I see the most privileged side of ugly.

[ScottM]

Dartmouth.............

Florida State ...

Fully endorsed, and approved, by the NCAA.

[larsensa]

Well, you are not expecting anything new, then, are you? Because you already perpetuate a hostile and abusive environment. I have had black friends that have told me that "at least in the South, they are all outright racist to your face...here, they just smile and then stab you in the back." I agree -- I have seen racism at its worst. You folks are doing a good job of seeing to it that I see the most privileged side of ugly.

What do you SUK at or on?