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23 minutes ago, gundy1124 said:

At this point we should just open a partnership with Alabama and take 15-20 kids a year that Alabama wants but doesn't have enough roster spots.  Then each year Alabama takes what they want but also brings in a new crop to UND.  I know some basketball programs are doing this type of partnering.  It's an interesting concept.........

It’s the way to do it.

Dusty May who was at FAU and now at Michigan just talked about how he used this type of concept at FAU. Worked out pretty well for him :) 

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45 minutes ago, gundy1124 said:

At this point we should just open a partnership with Alabama and take 15-20 kids a year that Alabama wants but doesn't have enough roster spots.  Then each year Alabama takes what they want but also brings in a new crop to UND.  I know some basketball programs are doing this type of partnering.  It's an interesting concept.........

If only someone had Deboer's phone number!

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46 minutes ago, gundy1124 said:

At this point we should just open a partnership with Alabama and take 15-20 kids a year that Alabama wants but doesn't have enough roster spots.  Then each year Alabama takes what they want but also brings in a new crop to UND.  I know some basketball programs are doing this type of partnering.  It's an interesting concept.........

Finally an outside the box idea!

Kind of like the relationship between MLB clubs and their minor league affiliates.

This sounds like it would benefit both programs.

Posted
2 hours ago, gfhockey said:

I think they should have a robinhood account that donors can put money into invested in a etf such as voo and can only access it after graduating from thst school

they csn still graduate transfer after but need to stick it out till graduation 

Some companies do that to hang onto certain execs for a defined period of time. Leave early, no account. It's a golden parachute account. 

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51 minutes ago, gundy1124 said:

At this point we should just open a partnership with Alabama and take 15-20 kids a year that Alabama wants but doesn't have enough roster spots.  Then each year Alabama takes what they want but also brings in a new crop to UND.  I know some basketball programs are doing this type of partnering.  It's an interesting concept.........

Baseball callsl it the 'farm team'. 

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48 minutes ago, gundy1124 said:

At this point we should just open a partnership with Alabama and take 15-20 kids a year that Alabama wants but doesn't have enough roster spots.  Then each year Alabama takes what they want but also brings in a new crop to UND.  I know some basketball programs are doing this type of partnering.  It's an interesting concept.........

Ick.

Posted
5 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Could you explain that with more than one word?

In this uncertain and volatile environment, we need to think outside the box to be successful.

I think I'd rather go non-scholly than operate as a JUCO.

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4 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

I think I'd rather go non-scholly than operate as a JUCO.

A JUCO? :blink:

We are an FCS program trying to navigate the landmine filled world of NIL and the Transfer Portal.

This would NOT make us a "JUCO".

And, for the record, I would rather drop the sport than EVER go non-scholarship, but that's another topic I hope we never have to discuss.

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4 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

A JUCO? :blink:

We are an FCS program trying to navigate the landmine filled world of NIL and the Transfer Portal.

This would NOT make us a "JUCO".

And, for the record, I would rather drop the sport than EVER go non-scholarship, but that's another topic I hope we never have to discuss.

We wouldn't be a JUCO, we'd just be a team where kids explicitly go to play for 2 years before moving onto a bigger school.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

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2 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

We wouldn't be a JUCO, we'd just be a team where kids explicitly go to play for 2 years before moving onto a bigger school.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

I don't know if it would benefit us or not, but it's an intriguing idea.

UND's stuck in the mud "we've always done it this way" attitude and way of thinking is one of the reasons why our Division I years have not been particularly successful.

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Just now, fightingsioux4life said:

I don't know if it would benefit us or not, but it's an intriguing idea.

UND's stuck in the mud "we've always done it this way" attitude and way of thinking is one of the reasons why our Division I years have not been particularly successful.

I agree it's an interesting idea, just not one I'd like to see implemented.  

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1 hour ago, gundy1124 said:

At this point we should just open a partnership with Alabama and take 15-20 kids a year that Alabama wants but doesn't have enough roster spots.  Then each year Alabama takes what they want but also brings in a new crop to UND.  I know some basketball programs are doing this type of partnering.  It's an interesting concept.........

Essentially what I said yesterday about following BB format for minor leagues.

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54 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

We wouldn't be a JUCO, we'd just be a team where kids explicitly go to play for 2 years before moving onto a bigger school.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

Based on this 80% (perhaps more) of division 1 schools sponsoring football are JUCOs….

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On 12/7/2025 at 8:44 PM, F'n Hawks said:

Figured this topic warranted it’s own thread.

OUT

RB Sawyer Seidle
DL Emmanuel Olagbaju
DB Antonio Bluiett (grad)
WR BJ Flemming

In

I hope you don't mind, I'm using your opening post to track transfers in/out, similar to the 2026 committed recruits thread.

Posted
5 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Based on this 80% (perhaps more) of division 1 schools sponsoring football are JUCOs….

Perhaps, with the primary differentiation being whether it's done "explicitly."

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5 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

Perhaps, with the primary differentiation being whether it's done "explicitly."

Yeah, it’s not the same. Still the option to play 5 years at these “JUCOs” whereas actual JUCOs can’t offer that, but I see your point. I think it’s a bit dramatic.

Posted
1 hour ago, forksandspoons said:

If only someone had Deboer's phone number!

Right, I know it's an NDSU thing to call out Bama (to play them) but in this instance we have the Coaching connection to work with them.

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50 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

I hope you don't mind, I'm using your opening post to track transfers in/out, similar to the 2026 committed recruits thread.

Perfect! Was actually going to ask if you could do so 

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I'm sure it will take a bit to get the "who's in".

I hate the portal.  I'd like to see a limitation on the number of times that you can enter and go to a different university, but I'm sure countless lawsuits would follow from guys that are on university #2 looking for the next great opportunity on university #3.

College football needs a commissioner.  Maybe needs to break away from the NCAA entirely with how big it truly has gotten.  

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6 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

I'm sure it will take a bit to get the "who's in".

I hate the portal.  I'd like to see a limitation on the number of times that you can enter and go to a different university, but I'm sure countless lawsuits would follow from guys that are on university #2 looking for the next great opportunity on university #3.

College football needs a commissioner.  Maybe needs to break away from the NCAA entirely with how big it truly has gotten.  

I agree.  I also think there will be NLI fatigue after a while.  If the boosters pony up at all the schools the end result (W-L's) will be essentially the same for the programs, but with millions of dollars transferring from the boosters to the players.  Will folks want to be indefinitely writing mid-to-high 5 figure or 6/7 figure checks, year after year with no return on investment?  

For extremely wealthy folks I suppose it isn't an issue, but for the typical small business owner it's a different story.

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5 minutes ago, Walsh Hall said:

I agree.  I also think there will be NLI fatigue after a while.  If the boosters pony up at all the schools the end result (W-L's) will be essentially the same for the programs, but with millions of dollars transferring from the boosters to the players.  Will folks want to be indefinitely writing mid-to-high 5 figure or 6/7 figure checks, year after year with no return on investment?  

For extremely wealthy folks I suppose it isn't an issue, but for the typical small business owner it's a different story.

Insightful take!!  Other schools pay SS and Fleming, we pay for a RB and WR, whatever school we "take" those kids from pay other players, etc.  An active paying portal is good for the players in the category of Immediate Financial Gain.  Feed the ego......secondary.  All other impacts on life/team/relationships/personal growth.....tertiary.   I'm positive NFL teams want guys with 3-4 Colleges under their belt because it screams love of game, loyalty and commitment.  Next stop on the run-a-way train, NFL contracts, mark my words.

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