2025 Non-UND FCS News/Scores Thread

[cowboys5xsbs]

39 minutes ago, NDSU grad said:

That’s why non-profits are buying the bars outright. 

Is the beer sales going to the non profit too 🤔

[forksandspoons]

1 hour ago, gfhockey said:

Does anyone know if Chavez sleeves  rolled up or is he out of town still

Is he: 

- Out meeting with UND’s largest donors 

- Out meeting with leaders of SD  and Montana schools 

- In Bora Bora analyzing the ever changing landscape of intercollegiate athletics 

[fightingsioux4life]

8 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

Is he: 

- Out meeting with UND’s largest donors 

- Out meeting with leaders of SD  and Montana schools 

- In Bora Bora analyzing the ever changing landscape of intercollegiate athletics 

I vote for #3.

[GoHawks]

10 hours ago, jdub27 said:

I'm not saying it won't pay off for them in the long run, but this is just an example of how big of a gamble this is when one of the biggest Ndsu homers out there ridicules Sac St's offer as being crazy and is still less than what Ndsu agreed to pay:

 

He's worse than McFeeley so don't take whatever he says seriously.

[AJS]

If we take a step back and really analyze the last handful of years. What would we want to be different (specially athletics)?

• Facilities: Nailed it. Betty is next. Cannot criticize what they've done and their vision. It's unbelievable
• Coaches: Fired Bubba and Berry (with years on their contracts). Told us mediocre isn't good enough. Anyone unhappy with the hires? Like with upgrades to the Betty, hoping B-Ball takes another step. 

 

My question being, based on actions, why wouldn't we think they'd be in the mix for conference realignment? What have they shown that would make us believe they aren't serious about being with other peer schools? How much of the online narrative (cannot emphasize online part) with realignment was based on winning? 

There's no reason not to be optimistic about the future with this leadership. 

 

 

 

[jdub27]

8 minutes ago, GoHawks said:

He's worse than McFeeley so don't take whatever he says seriously.

I don't, but my point was that he was absolutely dragging Sac St for what they were willing to do to get into a conference and then Ndsu turns around and pays an even higher price.

[jdub27]

6 minutes ago, AJS said:

My question being, based on actions, why wouldn't we think they'd be in the mix for conference realignment? What have they shown that would make us believe they aren't serious about being with other peer schools? How much of the online narrative (cannot emphasize online part) with realignment was based on winning? 

UND is choosing to invest in the entire University instead of put all of it's eggs in one basket (non-P4 football). If you look at the continuing transformation on campus with facilities and buildings, student experience and what that has done with enrollment trends, UND is continuing to position itself correctly. 

Ndsu has went the route of showing that they are serious about non-P4 football and they can raise money for that. Obviously it got them to FBS faster but their academic side is still trending negatively, their budget has never totally been fixed and that's before likely upcoming budget cuts again this cycle. Their enrollment trended negatively during an unprecedented football run. Is joining a shell of the MWC really going to be the thing that fixes all that? 

[Fratt Mattin]

15 hours ago, bison73 said:

NDSU has a 111MM athletic endowment. Which allows them to off set the lowest state ,school, and student-fee funds of any public FCS orG5 school. 7.6MM.

 

Comparative endowment(and other allocated funds)

SDSU 22.4mm(12.3mm)

UND 49mm (14.8mm)

Not stunned that NDSU has a leg up here, but the fact that they've more than doubled us up is concerning. What do we think the problem is here and what can we do to compete better?

As an aside, I'd love to know where you got these numbers from. I was looking for these the other day but couldn't find anything

[AJS]

4 minutes ago, Fratt Mattin said:

As an aside, I'd love to know where you got these numbers from. I was looking for these the other day but couldn't find anything

Search a Kolpack article about NDSU athletic endowment. Within last 6 months. Those would be from that article. He got the numbers from the schools.

[SIOUXFAN97]

the more i look online about this 12 million....they are saying it isn't a coindence that 12 million is coming in after the mwc $ from the tv stuff came in well under what they thought (compared to pac12?).....this money goes right to the OG of the mwc to keep them happy for _________years or heck ___________ months?

robbing paul to pay mary or whatever the saying is....

[NDSU grad]

3 hours ago, cowboys5xsbs said:

Is the beer sales going to the non profit too 🤔

Well they own the business so I guess so. The one example I know of is there was a bar in Minot where the hockey boosters had gaming. The bar was doing poor financially because the owners didn’t re-invest in the business. Hockey boosters bought it, put some money into it, and are now reaping the benefits for f the aging. No idea if the bar actually makes money or not. 

[siouxweet]

28 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said:

the more i look online about this 12 million....they are saying it isn't a coindence that 12 million is coming in after the mwc $ from the tv stuff came in well under what they thought (compared to pac12?).....this money goes right to the OG of the mwc to keep them happy for _________years or heck ___________ months?

robbing paul to pay mary or whatever the saying is....

They aren't paying the $12 million up front.  They pay $7 million this year then $1 million each of the next 5 years.

[FSSD]

15 minutes ago, siouxweet said:

They aren't paying the $12 million up front.  They pay $7 million this year then $1 million each of the next 5 years.

I do think he is right, Air Force, New Mexico, and UNLV are robbing Peter to pay Paul.  And in 5 years, Air Force, New Mexico and UNLV are gone to Pac 10 or American.

[FSSD]

I have one question.  Is NDSU able to contiue with it's own media rights deals for football?  Or is that apart of the Moutain West media rights?

[SIOUXFAN97]

27 minutes ago, siouxweet said:

They aren't paying the $12 million up front.  They pay $7 million this year then $1 million each of the next 5 years.

 i know...7 million to the og to keep them happy for _______________days....

the next few payments keep the lights on for ________________months.

[SIOUXFAN97]

5 minutes ago, FSSD said:

I have one question.  Is NDSU able to contiue with it's own media rights deals for football?  Or is that apart of the Moutain West media rights?

good question bc they are forgoing media money for x years....is that so they can do the kvly bs stuff still?

[cowboys5xsbs]

1 hour ago, Fratt Mattin said:

Not stunned that NDSU has a leg up here, but the fact that they've more than doubled us up is concerning. What do we think the problem is here and what can we do to compete better?

As an aside, I'd love to know where you got these numbers from. I was looking for these the other day but couldn't find anything

We put more money into education than sports unlike the ag college 

[SIOUXFAN97]

4 minutes ago, cowboys5xsbs said:

We put more money into education than sports unlike the ag college 

exactly...the sky isn't falling but would you rather have 1a football or what we have athletically all around AND our booming campus and enrollement....easy choice.

[Fratt Mattin]

3 minutes ago, cowboys5xsbs said:

We put more money into education than sports unlike the ag college 

I don't know the actual numbers, but it does feel that way. Certainly when you look at our campus versus their's, you can tell who is investing more in academic facilities.

I also think the recent success of the Forever UND campaign shows where our fundraising priorities lie. $100 million raised for the university endowment in 2024 and another $119 million in 2025

[Fratt Mattin]

18 minutes ago, FSSD said:

I have one question.  Is NDSU able to contiue with it's own media rights deals for football?  Or is that apart of the Moutain West media rights?

As far as I know NDSU football is part of the Mountain West package now. No more games on WDAY