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My mindset is to have athletic teams that compete for league championships, make the playoffs and put a product on the field, ice, court, track that we can support and be proud of. Realistically FB and hockey teams that can and will be national champions and WBB, MBB, VB, Softball etc that can win some playoff games. I will continue to support UND with my attendance, efforts and resources to try to make that happen. 
 

Where I differ with some is that I don’t expect any of that to bring me to the table with the decision makers. They will meet with me, talk to me and listen to me just like the rest of you. 
Also my life is unaffected by the successes or failures of our athletic teams  I’m disappointed for the players and coaches but not for myself  

When I say it doesn’t matter who is to blame it is with all of that in mind. What’s done is done and can’t be changed.  The stated objectives and expectations of the athletic administration for football is to win conference championships, make the playoffs regularly, and compete for and win National Championships. One Big Sky title and one MVFC title with a handful of playoff games seems to have resulted in an extension that I disagree with but that ship has sailed so how do we move forward? For me, it isn’t what someone else should do with their money while I sit back and say I’m done until I see results  I don’t think Chaves will be let go at this time so the question is the FB staff  

Regardless of who coaches next year my  expectation is a very good recruiting year, conference title, playoffs and success in the playoffs  I’ve invested my resources to help make that happen  

 

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42 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

My mindset is to have athletic teams that compete for league championships, make the playoffs and put a product on the field, ice, court, track that we can support and be proud of. Realistically FB and hockey teams that can and will be national champions and WBB, MBB, VB, Softball etc that can win some playoff games. I will continue to support UND with my attendance, efforts and resources to try to make that happen. 
 

Where I differ with some is that I don’t expect any of that to bring me to the table with the decision makers. They will meet with me, talk to me and listen to me just like the rest of you. 
Also my life is unaffected by the successes or failures of our athletic teams  I’m disappointed for the players and coaches but not for myself  

When I say it doesn’t matter who is to blame it is with all of that in mind. What’s done is done and can’t be changed.  The stated objectives and expectations of the athletic administration for football is to win conference championships, make the playoffs regularly, and compete for and win National Championships. One Big Sky title and one MVFC title with a handful of playoff games seems to have resulted in an extension that I disagree with but that ship has sailed so how do we move forward? For me, it isn’t what someone else should do with their money while I sit back and say I’m done until I see results  I don’t think Chaves will be let go at this time so the question is the FB staff  

Regardless of who coaches next year my  expectation is a very good recruiting year, conference title, playoffs and success in the playoffs  I’ve invested my resources to help make that happen  

So our obligation is to put up and shut up?

Do that if you want, but don't expect the rest of us to do it.

The opposite of love isn't hate, it's apathy. Your post has more than a touch of that.

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1 hour ago, Hawkster said:

I heard this from what I consider a reliable source, Bubba supposedly donates part of his salary back to be given to his assistants because their salary is so low.   If true, why are the assistants paid so poorly?   If UND can't afford to pay those under Bubba a fair wage they can't afford to pay the buyout or to pay the next guy more than Bubba (new coaches always seem to get more than the previous one).   There does seem to be bigger problems here, assuming that what I heard is true.

My pet peeve is still that REA keeps 52% of fb ticket revenue.  They then decide how much to give back to the athletic department at the end of the year. It is rolled into all their revenue and expenses. I believe it is completely up to REA how much, if any, they give back.  Some years it has been $1M, other years $0. 

rough numbers - this year we had 71,987 paid attendance. At $20 per seat (guess) 52% would be $748k 

I figure the athletic dept sure could use that. Needed much more than the REA needs it. 

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3 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said:

My pet peeve is still that REA keeps 52% of fb ticket revenue.  They then decide how much to give back to the athletic department at the end of the year. It is rolled into all their revenue and expenses. I believe it is completely up to REA how much, if any, they give back.  Some years it has been $1M, other years $0. 

rough numbers - this year we had 71,987 paid attendance. At $20 per seat (guess) 52% would be $748k 

I figure the athletic dept sure could use that. Needed much more than the REA needs it. 

That putrid situation ends in 2030.

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