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4 minutes ago, Big A HG said:

Since you're always so into semantics and fail to use any sort of figurative reasoning (despite everyone knowing that the game doesn't count, but that's not the point of bringing it up)...here ya go:

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Exactly.  The game doesn't count.
We could have played the Russian National Team and lost 15-1 or we could have played the Hazen JV HS team and won 22-0.
Either way, the game doesn't count.

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the record is the least of my concerns....   the malaise that leads to long stretches of uninspired, disappearing play that kills post season efforts....   but on the other hand, with the tournament qualifications the way they are, losses can be killers too.

The optimist that I chose to be wants an undefeated season where we outscore the opposition eleventy billion to 7....   but you know...  reality

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A split would sure make this weekend look a bit better.
4-3 sure feels a hell of a lot better than 3-4.
Get it done boys.  Guesses on lineup with all these injuries?

OMac - Wilkie - Kunz
James - Boisvert - Perron
Swanson - Schmaltz - Strinden
Andrew - Jammer - Littler

Livanavage - MacDonald
Jubenvill - Emery
Monty - Wiebe

Hobie

That's every available skater that made the trip.
The second line was our most effective last night, have to keep them together.
Does Andrew get his first playing time at UND?  I'd guess we'll be running three lines for most the night and that Jake/MacD/Emery/Wiebe get a boatload of ice time.

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2 minutes ago, Big A HG said:

The point of people bringing it up is it sets a tone for where UND is at to start the year.  It doesn't count, but doesn't make it meaningless.  If it was completely meaningless for the program, don't play an exhibition game...ever.  What's the point?  Obviously Brad sees importance in it.  The loss is not going to change our PWR, but that's not the point.  You lack imagination to think outside of the box and see the bigger picture.  Again, the loss doesn't matter...it's how we lost, why we lost, and what it may or may not mean for the games that do count. 

Exhibition games, especially preseason, are usually for testing out lines, getting D-pairings set, trying out PP and PK groups in live game action, getting skaters and goalies that might not see much ice time some game action, etc.  Which is exactly how Berry used it.
There's no imagination needed to see any bigger picture.  The team sure didn't look good against Augie, but there's no reason to dwell on a game that was played 4 days after the team's first official practice.

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4 minutes ago, brianvf said:

Exhibition games, especially preseason, are usually for testing out lines, getting D-pairings set, trying out PP and PK groups in live game action, getting skaters and goalies that might not see much ice time some game action, etc.  Which is exactly how Berry used it.
There's no imagination needed to see any bigger picture.  The team sure didn't look good against Augie, but there's no reason to dwell on a game that was played 4 days after the team's first official practice.

 

All of that's fine and dandy, and of course it's a good opportunity to do some of that, but nothing is getting cemented in one exhibition game.  How well are you going to test out lines and d-pairings when you come out and skate with 20 pound lead skates anyways?  Where's the energy coming off a long off-season?  Where's the motivation to turn the game around after getting punched in the mouth?  I don't think UND learned anything in that game other than the level of work that was put in wouldn't be good enough to compete at a high level and that's what people are talking about when they make comments about the game.  There is not a single resource I can think of that UND is missing to properly prepare an elite roster of college hockey talent, yet somehow we're still talking about the things that those tools are designed to prevent.  Imagine how bad UND would be if they didn't have the resources they did. /s

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2 hours ago, brianvf said:

We’re the only team in the league that has played a ranked team every week thus far. Flip our schedule with Denver’s and I bet both our and DUs record looks a bit different. 

The game I saw for the first 30 minutes looked like a team in July that was playing their first organized hockey in 3 months. Awful passes, tentative, little chemistry...It was their 7th game for Pete's sake, not their exhibition opener against Augustana. Good teams shouldn't take 30 minutes to start moving their legs. Like others have said, it's not who we're playing, but how we're playing that's disconcerting. It's baffling how a team can be so wildly inconsistent at times. Some fans here are critical of this team's Jekyll & Hyde behavior & rightly so. Another p!ss poor effort again tonight & they'll get swept right out of Ithaca. 

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34 minutes ago, brianvf said:

A split would sure make this weekend look a bit better.
4-3 sure feels a hell of a lot better than 3-4.
Get it done boys.  Guesses on lineup with all these injuries?

OMac - Wilkie - Kunz
James - Boisvert - Perron
Swanson - Schmaltz - Strinden
Andrew - Jammer - Littler

Livanavage - MacDonald
Jubenvill - Emery
Monty - Wiebe

Hobie

That's every available skater that made the trip.
The second line was our most effective last night, have to keep them together.
Does Andrew get his first playing time at UND?  I'd guess we'll be running three lines for most the night and that Jake/MacD/Emery/Wiebe get a boatload of ice time.

That first line badly needs to change tonight. That line should have been changed 5 mins into the second period when we went 15 mins without a SOG last night (around 7 mins left in first  period to 8 mins into the second). Most of the lines need a blender and Swanson really needs to be with a finisher.
 

I agree that you keep the 2nd line intact but blow up the other ones. Obviously Littler and Andrew will stay on the 4th line since Littler showed he’s not ready for D1 speed yet. Double shift Jammer and Schmaltz if needing to rotate onto 4th line if we need to keep Andrew’s shifts limited. 
 

Id like to see Swanson with Jammer tonight because Jammer has more offensive creativity than most guys right now.

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26 minutes ago, brianvf said:

A split would sure make this weekend look a bit better.
4-3 sure feels a hell of a lot better than 3-4.
Get it done boys.  Guesses on lineup with all these injuries?

OMac - Wilkie - Kunz
James - Boisvert - Perron
Swanson - Schmaltz - Strinden
Andrew - Jammer - Littler

Livanavage - MacDonald
Jubenvill - Emery
Monty - Wiebe

Hobie

That's every available skater that made the trip.
The second line was our most effective last night, have to keep them together.
Does Andrew get his first playing time at UND?  I'd guess we'll be running three lines for most the night and that Jake/MacD/Emery/Wiebe get a boatload of ice time.

The roster got thin in a hurry.

I imagine Andrew plays. It would be cool if he potted one.

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Try something like this 

 

Omac Wilkie Strinden
James Boisvert Perron
Kunz Jammer Swanson
Andrew Schmaltz Littler 

or 

Omac-Wilkie-Swanson 
James-Boisvert-Perron
Kunz-Jammer-Strinden
Andrew-Schmaltz-Littler 

Guessing James, jammer, and Strinden would do a lot of double shifting on the 4th line to take shifts from Andrew   

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1 hour ago, hockeytherapy13 said:

Try something like this 

Omac Wilkie Strinden
James Boisvert Perron
Kunz Jammer Swanson
Andrew Schmaltz Littler 

or 

Omac-Wilkie-Swanson 
James-Boisvert-Perron
Kunz-Jammer-Strinden
Andrew-Schmaltz-Littler 

Guessing James, jammer, and Strinden would do a lot of double shifting on the 4th line to take shifts from Andrew   

Hope they can score early.  They might not have much left in the tank at the end if they're running essentially 3 lines and 4-5 D most of the game.

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2 hours ago, 90siouxfan said:

why do we seem to be so injury prone?

Every time I hear a player is injured and not making the trip but were fine the previous game. Makes me think WTH are they doing in practice that they got hurt, again just makes it sound like they get hurt in a controlled environment of practice.

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7 minutes ago, cberkas said:

Every time I hear a player is injured and not making the trip but were fine the previous game. Makes me think WTH are they doing in practice that they got hurt, again just makes it sound like they get hurt in a controlled environment of practice.

Schloss' article said that Berg got injured late in the Sat BU game, but that Komzak was injured during practice this week.
He said Berg practiced this week but couldn't play.

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5 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

For real hockey minds what am I missing with Schmaltz? Of the 7 guys that can play center he's not in my top 6.

Before last night, he was winning something crazy like 70% of his draws on the season. I think he’s played better offensively than last year so far, but that’s not saying much and it’s still early. 

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6 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

For real hockey minds what am I missing with Schmaltz? Of the 7 guys that can play center he's not in my top 6.

My guess is he's up there with that line to enable the fourth line to get shifts with Jammer as their center.  Guessing when they start only playing 2-3 lines tonight that's the first line to change. 

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1 minute ago, Wilbur said:

My guess is he's up there with that line to enable the fourth line to get shifts with Jammer as their center.  Guessing when they start only playing 2-3 lines tonight that's the first line to change. 

Him and Jammer swap shifts as needed. Sounds good to me. 

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