Hawkster Posted January 27 Posted January 27 9 hours ago, Kab said: Is bubba just stubborn or incompetent I hate to say this but I think the best thing would be to tank this season and clean house. With our luck Bubba goes 6-6 and gets an extension Quote
Popular Post UND-FB-FAN Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 1 hour ago, Longtime fan said: Danny bleeds Kelly green. He knows that sticking around Bubba gets him absolutely nowhere. Assistants have to move on from this bubba clown show to further themselves. Sure pay is the most obvious reason why people go elsewhere but Danny was fine with it for as long as he was here. He made a great move to leave bubba and learn the correct way of coaching. Definitely appears that way now. The situation is so horrid for UND football right now that UND alums are ditching Bubba left and right for conference rivals. This is an indirect reflection on the horrible state of UND football, and both Bubba and Chaves are to blame, although some “supporters” likely enabled this a few years ago by sticking their neck out for the “good guy” Bubba. I think everyone can “see clearly” now. You can’t run a program when even the most diehard UND/Grand Forks guys are willing to abandon ship. The house absolutely needs to be completely cleaned out: Culture reset. 8 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 27 Posted January 27 16 minutes ago, Hawkster said: I hate to say this but I think the best thing would be to tank this season and clean house. With our luck Bubba goes 6-6 and gets an extension I am guessing 6-6 is a real possibility but that should still lead to Bubba’s termination, or at least it needs to. A losing season is certainly possible though too. Quote
Midwestern Hawk Posted January 27 Posted January 27 4 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Bubba is a good man but not a great coach. UND / Chaves hung on too long. The central themes on this board, although farfetched, misinformed, and laughable at times, are usually overall spot-on given the passion and love for UND. Bubba has been strung out way too damn long, should’ve been fired in 2017, 2018, or 2021, but now, here we are: this is the result. Agree 100%. Good man, average football coach which is proven with a look at his record. A good coach would have won 50% more games at North Dakota over Bubbas tenure, but moved on after 5-7 years. A great coach would have won 85-90% of his games at UND and been gone in 2-4 years. Quote
gfhockey Posted January 27 Posted January 27 2 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said: Agree 100%. Good man, average football coach which is proven with a look at his record. A good coach would have won 50% more games at North Dakota over Bubbas tenure, but moved on after 5-7 years. A great coach would have won 85-90% of his games at UND and been gone in 2-4 years. So is Landry a great coach? He was in town 2-4 days Quote
Popular Post Longtime fan Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 12 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Definitely appears that way now. The situation is so horrid for UND football right now that UND alums are ditching Bubba left and right for conference rivals. This is an indirect reflection on the horrible state of UND football, and both Bubba and Chaves are to blame, although some “supporters” likely enabled this a few years ago by sticking their neck out for the “good guy” Bubba. I think everyone can “see clearly” now. You can’t run a program when even the most diehard UND/Grand Forks guys are willing to abandon ship. The house absolutely needs to be completely cleaned out: Culture reset. Agreed on a complete culture reset. Let’s check out some culture . Go back to the two finalist for the head coaching position in 2013. You have Bubba . 22-21 head coaching record in D2. You have Kalen. 67-3 in NAIA. Three championships, runner up and semi in 5 years of head coaching . Not to mention he beat D1 und in grand forks. In typical UND fashion….you have to choose ex UNDer. Obvious call for administration. Can hire him for cheap and keep him leashed for years. 2003. Ndsu and sdsu make a bold move to go D1. UND defers . We are witnessing the consequences. 2 3 Quote
Oxbow6 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 10 minutes ago, gfhockey said: So is Landry a great coach? He was in town 2-4 days Good enough to get poached for a better opportunity by your instate rival. 4 Quote
Midwestern Hawk Posted January 27 Posted January 27 4 minutes ago, gfhockey said: So is Landry a great coach? He was in town 2-4 days At this point, does it really matter? 1 Quote
SiouxFan100 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 Well at least other conference teams want our assistant coaches Quote
CMSioux Posted January 27 Posted January 27 12 minutes ago, Longtime fan said: Agreed on a complete culture reset. Let’s check out some culture . Go back to the two finalist for the head coaching position in 2013. You have Bubba . 22-21 head coaching record in D2. You have Kalen. 67-3 in NAIA. Three championships, runner up and semi in 5 years of head coaching . Not to mention he beat D1 und in grand forks. In typical UND fashion….you have to choose ex UNDer. Obvious call for administration. Can hire him for cheap and keep him leashed for years. 2003. Ndsu and sdsu make a bold move to go D1. UND defers . We are witnessing the consequences. There is a ton of missing facts and side issues. 1 Quote
iluvdebbies Posted January 27 Posted January 27 6 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said: Well at least other conference teams want our assistant coaches #hangabanner 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 27 Posted January 27 6 minutes ago, iluvdebbies said: #hangabanner 2023 Assistant Coach Development Award/Championship 3 Quote
Midwestern Hawk Posted January 27 Posted January 27 Just now, UND-FB-FAN said: 2023 Assistant Coach Development Award/Championship Bubba should have been replaced after the 2021 season. 2 Quote
Und246 Posted January 27 Posted January 27 So how does school to the south come out looking in this situation? Quote
Kab Posted January 27 Posted January 27 Who is on the short list to hire for each position coach remember CULTURE Quote
Popular Post gfhockey Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 I hope Landry fails miserable never been so embarrassed for a und alumni 9 Quote
SooToo Posted January 27 Posted January 27 10 hours ago, ksixpack said: ..... Can we be a bit more logical here and a a bit less petty? LOL. New to Sioux Sports? 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 27 Posted January 27 14 minutes ago, SooToo said: LOL. New to Sioux Sports? Once again …The central themes on this board, although farfetched, misinformed, and laughable at times, are usually overall spot-on given the passion and love for UND. Bubba has been strung out way too damn long, should’ve been fired in 2017, 2018, or 2021, but now, here we are: this is the result. Quote
CMSioux Posted January 27 Posted January 27 No matter what you think about opportunity and looking out for yourself. Bottom line is if he was still looking, or had any doubts, he should not have taken the UND job. He could have turned it down and kept looking. 3 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 27 Posted January 27 38 minutes ago, CMSioux said: No matter what you think about opportunity and looking out for yourself. Bottom line is if he was still looking, or had any doubts, he should not have taken the UND job. He could have turned it down and kept looking. UND football is just not a high-reputation, powerful job right now. NDSU and SDSU are regarded as undoubtedly better jobs, and that should infuriate anyone who loves UND. We know NDSU and SDSU have been better for the past decade plus on the court and field, but now it’s spread to the office, head and hearts of UND alumni. That is beyond damaging. This current sad state of affairs has to do with the fragile mediocre trend over the past several years, which falls on the shoulders of Bubba and Chaves. When being aggressive and making the rational contemporary decision was necessary, it was instead deferred, and in some cases, the opposite was actually done. 2 Quote
Popular Post fightingsioux4life Posted January 27 Popular Post Posted January 27 14 hours ago, GoodGood said: It’s a business. Jake’s doing what’s best for him and his family. Absolutely nothing wrong with that So that means you can screw people over all you want and we're all supposed to be fine about it? Integrity matters. Character matters. Your frigging word should matter. I would not want to conduct business with someone who stabs people in the back. I don't think Ralph Engelstad made his fortune by screwing people over. 5 Quote
90siouxfan Posted January 27 Posted January 27 I would think the UND president has to have at least raised an eyebrow to this saga... the gripes of the fans should probably be landing on his desk, not Chaves, he appears worthless. 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted January 27 Posted January 27 3 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: Disappointed Jake left....yes. Hypocrisy......no. My phone blew up last night at the Ralph from my SU insider buddies. This isn’t complicated. Better program. Better career upside. Better pay. It is all about Bidenomics. Amitite?? If Landry had went straight from St. Thomas to NDSU, that wouldn't bother me that much. But he took the job at UND, blubbered about how happy he was to be back.......and then stabbed Bubba and the rest of us in the back on his way out the door to NDSU. It's fairly obvious he used the UND offer to get the NDSU one. Disgusting. But whomever wants to cheer him on down there so you can "be a part of it", go right on ahead. Landry is now the enemy and should be treated as such. 3 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 27 Posted January 27 1 minute ago, fightingsioux4life said: If Landry had went straight from St. Thomas to NDSU, that wouldn't bother me that much. But he took job at UND, blubbered about how happy he was to be back.......and then stabbed Bubba and the rest of us in the back on his way out the door to NDSU. It's fairly obvious he used the UND offer to get the NDSU one. Disgusting. But whomever wants to cheer him on down there so you can "be a part of it", go right on ahead. Landry is now the enemy and should be treated as such. We can displace some of our anger on individuals, sure, but this is a systematic problem at this point. Look at the bigger picture. Quote
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