Who would UND hire?

[jdub27]

14 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

In the case of Schmidt and Luke S., they likely have learned new things and made new connections, but why haven’t they shown more success? 

I guess I thought Schmidt had a pretty good run while with Deboer (34-6 excluding covid). Not a great first, single season at SDSU and I have no clue what the new staff inherited there. 

But you keep championing for Baldwin when he hasn't done much in last decade and his last 3 college stops and one season in the CFL have been flops?

[homer]

24 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Experience doesn’t always equate to success. Some young individuals are really successful and some older guys never quite get the job done, etc., etc., etc.

I agree that experience is nice, but I think a history of success is most important. Winners win. It’s an intrinsic quality for some, although some can learn it, sure. In the case of Schmidt and Luke S., they likely have learned new things and made new connections, but why haven’t they shown more success? Same goes for Freund with UND (2011-2023) and Freuchte (2024). 

Based on getting someone who purely knows winning football, that also coincidentally happens to mean getting someone not recently (or ever) associated with UND football in the past. 

When arguably the best coach in college football wants you to go from Fresno State to Washington to Alabama you are doing something right regardless of what your 2013 stats say

[sioux24/7]

2 minutes ago, homer said:

When arguably the best coach in college football wants you to go from Fresno State to Washington to Alabama you are doing something right regardless of what your 2013 stats say

Why didn’t he end up at Bama? Accepted the SDSU job too soon?

[UND-FB-FAN]

9 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

I guess I thought Schmidt had a pretty good run while with Deboer (34-6 excluding covid). Not a great first, single season at SDSU and I have no clue what the new staff inherited there. 

But you keep championing for Baldwin when he hasn't done much in last decade and his last 3 college stops and one season in the CFL have been flops?

Schmidt was a position coach on staff with a guy (DeBoer) that has won everywhere. And by winning, I mean championships. His next shot at DC (which was this season) went awful. Winning and championships matter and he wasn’t producing anything special along those lines when DC at UND nor now as DC at San Diego State.  
 

Beau Baldwin also has won championships. He did well with Cal. He was shorted at Cal Poly due to limited resources and the pandemic. ASU he was only there one season. Baldwin would be a good hire. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

2 minutes ago, homer said:

When arguably the best coach in college football wants you to go from Fresno State to Washington to Alabama you are doing something right regardless of what your 2013 stats say

He did not want him to be a coordinator.

[jdub27]

14 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

 He did well with Cal. He was shorted at Cal Poly due to limited resources and the pandemic. ASU he was only there one season. Baldwin would be a good hire. 

His offenses were not good at Cal. Ranked 45, 92, 86 in the FBS his 3 years there and the bottom of the PAC12. They were the 7th ranked offense the year before he showed up. 

He's a fine candidate (if he's interested) but saying he's had any sort of sustained success in the decade since he left EWU is just not accurate. He has no ties to UND's recruiting footprint and hasn't coached anywhere even remotely close to this area. Those are big red flags. 

13 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

He did not want him to be a coordinator.

He wanted to call plays to expand his resume and turned him down. 

[bincitysioux]

Baldwins name popped to me at first because of all his success at EWU.  I really enjoyed watching Eastern during those years.

I feel like though, his best years could be behind him.  Just too far removed now from those successful years atop the Big Sky.

Of the names openly discussed, I say Caruso & Johansen are the most intriguing to me.

 

[iramurphy]

3 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Experience doesn’t always equate to success. Some young individuals are really successful and some older guys never quite get the job done, etc., etc., etc.

I agree that experience is nice, but I think a history of success is most important. Winners win. It’s an intrinsic quality for some, although some can learn it, sure. In the case of Schmidt and Luke S., they likely have learned new things and made new connections, but why haven’t they shown more success? Same goes for Freund with UND (2011-2023) and Freuchte (2024). 

Based on getting someone who purely knows winning football, that also coincidentally happens to mean getting someone not recently (or ever) associated with UND football in the past. 

Simple answer: It’s complicated. I don’t believe it’s a good idea to ignore potential candidates cuz of UND ties nor because they are older or younger than 40.  I’m not on the selection committee so my opinion is no more important than anyone else’s posting here. I  might opine if I knew who applied but its irrelevant  

 

 

 

[UND-FB-FAN]

19 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

His offenses were not good at Cal. Ranked 45, 92, 86 in the FBS his 3 years there and the bottom of the PAC12. They were the 7th ranked offense the year before he showed up. 

He's a fine candidate (if he's interested) but saying he's had any sort of sustained success in the decade since he left EWU is just not accurate. He has no ties to UND's recruiting footprint and hasn't coached anywhere even remotely close to this area. Those are big red flags. 

He wanted to call plays to expand his resume and turned him down. 

Trying to somehow elevate Schmidt as a better candidate than Baldwin is silly to me.

You’re trying to say a guy who has never been a collegiate head coach, and also someone who has had limited to really no signifiant success as a coordinator, should be considered a better candidate than a guy who has actually won an FCS national championship as a head coach. 
 

I can appreciate the geography concerns, but football is football, whether played in Cheney, Washington, or Grand Forks, North Dakota. 
 

And yes, Schmidt wanted to call plays, and DeBoer (knowing him well) didn’t want to afford him that opportunity. Perhaps logical based on how it went for him in San Diego in 2024.

[UND-FB-FAN]

4 minutes ago, iramurphy said:

Simple answer: It’s complicated. I don’t believe it’s a good idea to ignore potential candidates cuz of UND ties nor because they are older or younger than 40.  I’m not on the selection committee so my opinion is no more important than anyone else’s posting here. I  might opine if I knew who applied but its irrelevant  

 

 

 

It’s definitely complicated, but winners win. Let’s start there, and hopefully Bill, Erik, and Andy do. 

[UND1983]

Stop with Baldwin you clowns. There is a reason he is in Canada trying to hang on

[UND-FB-FAN]

2 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Stop with Baldwin you clowns. There is a reason he is in Canada trying to hang on

Sure, he knows nothing because he’s in the CFL. Forget about his previous success and connections with Chaves… onward

[Ron Mexico]

Something feels like Scmidt is out or we would be hearing something.

 

So - Fruechte.  Kept that class together - seen it at the pros - looks like a class guy.

 

 

[UND-FB-FAN]

 

5 minutes ago, Ron Mexico said:

Something feels like Scmidt is out or we would be hearing something.

 

So - Fruechte.  Kept that class together - seen it at the pros - looks like a class guy.

 

 

Last time UND elevated their offensive coordinator to head coach (2008) it didn’t work out too great …

Apples to Oranges comparison, sure, but more so just don’t think we should be thinking internal with this critical hire. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

9 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Stop with Baldwin you clowns. There is a reason he is in Canada trying to hang on

It’s not just me …

 

[SiouxFan100]

Starting to feel more comfortable with  Fruechte As our new head coach. He would take some lumps but I think he and UND would come out ahead after a couple years.

[UND1983]

3 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

It’s not just me …

 

Yep would be sweet for a Bison fan who masquerades as national media.  Sweet bro

[Ron Mexico]

How is it none of us appear to have any connections that can at least give us a few rumours or theories???

 

What r we hearing cormer players, GF guys, friends of friends???

[gfhockey]

54 minutes ago, Shawn-O said:

Dad played ball at UND and now is basically the Wes Rydell of central Wisconsin.  Likely has resources to potentially support the program financially, and could very well be reading this.  
 

But never mind the two crackpots tracking tail numbers right?  

Gotta track em it’s the name of the game

[gfhockey]

4 minutes ago, Ron Mexico said:

How is it none of us appear to have any connections that can at least give us a few rumours or theories???

 

What r we hearing cormer players, GF guys, friends of friends???

Lots of activity with tail numbers

 

chavez rolling up his sleeves and being thoro

[SiouxFan100]

When chavez admits he has no idea how this will play out how can anyone else have any inside information 

[gfhockey]

Just now, SiouxFan100 said:

When chavez admits he has no idea how this will play out how can anyone else have any inside information 

Gotta wait and see who apply then make the calls

 

it still open as of now

[UND-FB-FAN]

20 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Yep would be sweet for a Bison fan who masquerades as national media.  Sweet bro

Beau Baldwin didn’t do the bizon any favors in the 2010 FCS quarterfinals …

But I agree on the masquerade part.

Tom Miller included his name in the article for good reason; there’s connections. 

Anyways, there’s other good candidates out there, most of them winners as a head coach, and really none of them have been a coach at UND in the past 10 years.

[UND-FB-FAN]

24 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said:

Starting to feel more comfortable with  Fruechte As our new head coach. He would take some lumps but I think he and UND would come out ahead after a couple years.

Not too sure on that… who’s he going to hire to fix the mess of a defense?

 Plus his offense had a few duds this year. I agree in that there’s potential since he’s young, but it’s too big of a risk compared to what else is out there and who else likely applied. You just don’t simply hire someone cause their young … 

[SiouxFan100]

No doubt the offensive and defensive coordinators are important. I am assuming that whoever is the head coach that they can find capable assistants. Maybe wrong assumption?