Goon Posted Tuesday at 06:22 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:22 PM Quote The report says South Dakota State spends $8.8 million a year on football. North Dakota State is next at $6.41 million and the rest of the league goes as follows in millions: North Dakota $6.02, Missouri State $5.24, Southern Illinois $5.21, Illinois State $4.8, Youngstown State $4.71, South Dakota $4.45, Murray State $4.03 and Northern Iowa $3.8. If UND is spending 6 million plus on football, there's no reason for mediocrity. There's more than enough money to support a successful program. I also heard rumblings that some of the big alumni might be getting ready to call for a change. If UND loses this weekend, I wonder if Bubba's seat gets hotter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted Tuesday at 06:54 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:54 PM 31 minutes ago, Goon said: If UND is spending 6 million plus on football, there's no reason for mediocrity. There's more than enough money to support a successful program. I also heard rumblings that some of the big alumni might be getting ready to call for a change. If UND loses this weekend, I wonder if Bubba's seat gets hotter. I agree with all of this. What is incredibly frustrating is that it is unacceptable that “big alumni” are just getting ready for a change now. Should have been communicated years ago (2017 or 2021). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Goon Posted Tuesday at 06:58 PM Popular Post Share Posted Tuesday at 06:58 PM 2 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: I agree with all of this. What is incredibly frustrating is that it is unacceptable that “big alumni” are just getting ready for a change now. Should have been communicated years ago (2017 or 2021). Hopefully, they will push, and this isn't just talk. Some changes need to be made. I personally, like Bubba, he's a decent human being, but we're stuck in a rut. 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted Tuesday at 07:06 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:06 PM 8 minutes ago, Goon said: Hopefully, they will push, and this isn't just talk. Some changes need to be made. I personally, like Bubba, he's a decent human being, but we're stuck in a rut. Absolutely, this is no indictment on his character as an individual at all, but, division 1 football is a results-driven business. UND is not competing with regional rivals and putting up the results necessary to compete; it’s clearly time for major change. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted Tuesday at 07:09 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 07:09 PM Set up a custom report to look at FB spending by schools of interest. https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports For example: https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/77901c28 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago On 11/18/2024 at 5:23 PM, Cratter said: That's why I advocate going straight to the top. Get a good coach and double their current salary and/or UNDs football coaches. No pussyfooting around with hoping "this guy" will be good. "We don't have money to go FCS"....yet they always find a way. "NDSU doesn't have FBS money to pay a coach".....yet they'd find a way. UND can find a way to bring in the highest paid FCS coach if they really wanted too... Over 6 million UND football budget....double the coaches salary and it's only adds $250,000. Seems doable to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago https://knightnewhousedata.org/reports/e9912f90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND08 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago On 11/19/2024 at 12:22 PM, Goon said: If UND is spending 6 million plus on football, there's no reason for mediocrity. There's more than enough money to support a successful program. I also heard rumblings that some of the big alumni might be getting ready to call for a change. If UND loses this weekend, I wonder if Bubba's seat gets hotter. Agree with everyone's take on this. And honestly...does Saturday even matter? Kinda feels like the damage has been done... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 4 minutes ago, UND08 said: does Saturday even matter? It shouldn't. I hope they win for the sake of the seniors, and all players, and really, even Bubba. But Bubba shouldn't be coaching for his job this Saturday. He should be coaching the last game of his career regardless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 5 minutes ago, UND08 said: And honestly...does Saturday even matter? Kinda feels like the damage has been done... Would be nice to get a road W and send the seniors off on a high note. Whatever happens after that is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post shep Posted 13 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 13 hours ago If you listen to the 360 guys you'll hear Kelly say that it's nice UND has a high GPA and lots of Community Service hours "but I want to win." 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND08 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 5 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Would be nice to get a road W and send the seniors off on a high note. Whatever happens after that is what it is. 6 minutes ago, Dustin said: It shouldn't. I hope they win for the sake of the seniors, and all players, and really, even Bubba. But Bubba shouldn't be coaching for his job this Saturday. He should be coaching the last game of his career regardless. I agree with all of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 12 minutes ago, shep said: If you listen to the 360 guys you'll hear Kelly say that it's nice UND has a high GPA and lots of Community Service hours "but I want to win." I share his feelings on this, but I must point out again that you need not sacrifice good GPA numbers and Community Service hours for wins. And vice-versa. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said: I share his feelings on this, but I must point out again that you need not sacrifice good GPA numbers and Community Service hours for wins. And vice-versa. Is that your opinion or do you have factual comparisons? Is the high GPA compared to... evert student at UND? Every student everywhere? Or to football programs we cherry picked to support the narrative... modern society has fed my cynical nature well lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 41 minutes ago, 90siouxfan said: Is that your opinion or do you have factual comparisons? Is the high GPA compared to... evert student at UND? Every student everywhere? Or to football programs we cherry picked to support the narrative... modern society has fed my cynical nature well lately. A lot of the same habits that make someone a successful athlete also carry over to academics (work ethic, discipline, attitude, commitment, fighting through adversity, time management). With a few regrettable exceptions, our student-athletes have generally done well in the classroom over the years (Karl Goehring is one example). And I don't see why that ever has to change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 2 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: A lot of the same habits that make someone a successful athlete also carry over to academics (work ethic, discipline, attitude, commitment, fighting through adversity, time management). With a few regrettable exceptions, our student-athletes have generally done well in the classroom over the years (Karl Goehring is one example). And I don't see why that ever has to change. A common perception, and probably correct but for the people from Missouri, hard info is king. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Just now, 90siouxfan said: A common perception, and probably correct but for the people from Missouri, hard info is king. Look at all the athletes we have named to academic all-conference teams, in multiple sports on a regular basis. That is "hard data", is it not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 8 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Look at all the athletes we have named to academic all-conference teams, in multiple sports on a regular basis. That is "hard data", is it not? That’s about the only accomplishment our athletic department has - academics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 16 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Look at all the athletes we have named to academic all-conference teams, in multiple sports on a regular basis. That is "hard data", is it not? Show me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Didn't dig too deep but this is from Fightinghawks.com and fall '23. Pretty good GPA across the board other than men's bb. TEAMS FA23 GPA Men's Basketball 2.504 Men's Cross Country 3.640 Men's Football 3.334 Men's Golf 3.546 Men's Hockey 3.387 Men's Tennis 3.431 Men's Track 3.530 Women's Basketball 3.197 Women's Cross Country 3.485 Women's Golf 3.690 Women's Soccer 3.424 Women's Softball 3.361 Women's Tennis 3.789 Women's Track 3.514 Women's Volleyball 3.529 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UND1983 Posted 9 hours ago Popular Post Share Posted 9 hours ago I noticed D2 Northwest Missouri St fired their head coach after missing playoffs two years in a row. Standards. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago from same article. https://fightinghawks.com/news/2024/1/25/general-fighting-hawks-shine-in-classroom-during-fall-2023-semester.aspx Overall, the student-athletes combined for a 3.391 departmental GPA, making it 31 straight semesters above the 3.0 mark as a department. 300 of them – a monster 81 percent – earned at least a 3.0 and an impressive 95 collecting a perfect 4.0 mark for the semester. Of those 95 perfect scores during the semester, a whopping 63 student-athletes maintained a cumulative GPA of 4.0 during their academic careers. In addition, 89 Fighting Hawks earned a selection to the Dean's List while 51 were named to the President's Honor Roll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said: Didn't dig too deep but this is from Fightinghawks.com and fall '23. Pretty good GPA across the board other than men's bb. TEAMS FA23 GPA Men's Basketball 2.504 Men's Cross Country 3.640 Men's Football 3.334 Men's Golf 3.546 Men's Hockey 3.387 Men's Tennis 3.431 Men's Track 3.530 Women's Basketball 3.197 Women's Cross Country 3.485 Women's Golf 3.690 Women's Soccer 3.424 Women's Softball 3.361 Women's Tennis 3.789 Women's Track 3.514 Women's Volleyball 3.529 Good work, how does that compare to the competing universities? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 3 hours ago, UND08 said: Agree with everyone's take on this. And honestly...does Saturday even matter? Kinda feels like the damage has been done... Let’s check the UND at ISUr thread and see if Saturday matters oh… wait… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoopsFan03 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 8 minutes ago, zonadub said: Let’s check the UND at ISUr thread and see if Saturday matters oh… wait… Great point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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