fightingsioux4life Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Saw this piece in today's Heraldo regarding the future renovation of Hyslop into a STEM science facility and the future of HPC Phase II: http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/4391024-proposal-would-convert-unds-hyslop-stem-facility Quote The build-out of the second stage is estimated to cost a further $15 million and would include locker space, coaching offices and facilities for sports medicine, academic support and strength and conditioning. The addition would be backed by private fundraising. Quote "We're planning on there being an HPC two, there's been plans there already," he said. "But we need to answer, are our fundraising efforts realistic, do we have the potential to raise that kind of money? Or do we need to scale it where we can meet fundraising objectives? That's part of what needs to get wrapped up in the master plan." Well, that was encouraging. (sarcasm) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said: Saw this piece in today's Heraldo regarding the future renovation of Hyslop into a STEM science facility and the future of HPC Phase II: http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/4391024-proposal-would-convert-unds-hyslop-stem-facility Well, that was encouraging. (sarcasm) Quote The build-out of the second stage is estimated to cost a further $15 million and would include locker space, coaching offices and facilities for sports medicine, academic support and strength and conditioning. The addition would be backed by private fundraising. Quote "We're planning on there being an HPC two, there's been plans there already," he said. "But we need to answer, are our fundraising efforts realistic, do we have the potential to raise that kind of money? Or do we need to scale it where we can meet fundraising objectives? That's part of what needs to get wrapped up in the master plan." Move forward with a fundraising drive for the original plan, if all funds are not attainable, then scale it. This complete package is a healthy finish for the Athletic Department & the U. Sounds like there is a little doubt in our supporting fan base or a reserved willingness of Pres. Kennedy to dive into the support of the whole plan (Phase II). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Not to worry, the money will coming pouring in now that Faison is gone. Kennedy meant scale it up grandiose style... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 25 minutes ago, Cratter said: Not to worry, the money will coming pouring in now that Faison is gone. Kennedy meant scale it up grandiose style... No, the money is waiting until Mannausau is AD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Kennedy's cuts seemed to strike where there was a strategic opportunity. Hyslop's open space would make a great UPSON II, which is engineering lab space. So swimming had to go. Ray Richards will make way for a new stadium and Hospital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 ...connected by a light-rail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 46 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said: Kennedy's cuts seemed to strike where there was a strategic opportunity. Hyslop's open space would make a great UPSON II, which is engineering lab space. So swimming had to go. Ray Richards will make way for a new stadium and Hospital. would they tear down the swimming pool addition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moser53 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, SiouxVolley said: Kennedy's cuts seemed to strike where there was a strategic opportunity. Hyslop's open space would make a great UPSON II, which is engineering lab space. So swimming had to go. Ray Richards will make way for a new stadium and Hospital. 1. Cuts more of the same. Nikita Sergeyevich Khrushchev. We will bury you. # 2. Is that in the plans? 3. To Fargo no West Fargo 4. People miss Ray Richards. New is good progress. #500million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: would they tear down the swimming pool addition? Think that addition is the prime part for an engineering lab. Petroleum engineering badly needs lab space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 It would be easy to buy land out west of Grand Forks and build a nine hole course. But private investors don't see the demand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moser53 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 If Mac Schneider was running the ship, state the last 15 years moser53 wouldn't be posting all this stuff. All the cuts nickname and the other BS would have not happened. He has common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 6 minutes ago, moser53 said: If Mac Schneider was running the ship, state the last 15 years moser53 wouldn't be posting all this stuff. All the cuts nickname and the other BS would have not happened. He has common sense. No politics. Last informal warning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 17 hours ago, Cratter said: ...connected by a light-rail! C'mon Cratts, get it right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Interesting: Flagship U is tearing down old smaller buildings and planning on turning an athletic building into academics? U showing more interest in HPC phase II, in which it would assume the functions that would be removed from the Hyslop? Ray Richards golf course (80 acres, less roads and right of way) never went for sale in it's 1st year of vacancy, has staying power, as in long term potential? Will the Alerius (Hawk's Nest) fulfill the U's needs for the next few decades? At gossip stages: EERC expansion tees off a double cross swing at the old golf course - fore ... hospital takes it's Mulligan but still whiffs? Power Plant eyes the fairway over the BNSF tracks? First dormitory since Swanson Hall to be built for under par near the large sand trap? Rail baby, light new rail slicing the BNSF heavy rail to connect the old flag-sticks to the Flagship? Unmanned vehicle landing pad replaces the west green? Grab a wood, take a swing ... Hole in one? ... Just Say n. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 The latest Herald article on the future of Gamble seems to promise major donations coming to build a new business school facing University Ave. Those donations may have a part going to athletics. Donations that are solely athletic in nature tend to yield a lot of criticsm from the faculty and associated snowflakes. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 37 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said: The latest Herald article on the future of Gamble seems to promise major donations coming to build a new business school facing University Ave. Those donations may have a part going to athletics. Donations that are solely athletic in nature tend to yield a lot of criticsm from the faculty and associated snowflakes. This is the answer needed to grow enrollment at UND! As much as I loved gamble, a new building is badly needed. Dumping money into that place is a waste. Not enough meeting areas or study space. Thank god for the SMIF room or I never would have studied on campus. That said, isn't the current plan to renovate gamble, rather than build a new school? I Know a new building was being floated while I was there about 5 years ago, but I kind of feel like that ship has sailed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 59 minutes ago, nodak651 said: This is the answer needed to grow enrollment at UND! As much as I loved gamble, a new building is badly needed. Dumping money into that place is a waste. Not enough meeting areas or study space. Thank god for the SMIF room or I never would have studied on campus. That said, isn't the current plan to renovate gamble, rather than build a new school? I Know a new building was being floated while I was there about 5 years ago, but I kind of feel like that ship has sailed? Five years ago they talked about a new business college where Chandler Hall was by the coulee. A decision was made for University for greater visibity so Strinden Hall and nearby buildings were razed. The Foundation seems to have learned from the Engelstad situation to announce major athletic gifts with an academic component. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 17 hours ago, nodak651 said: This is the answer needed to grow enrollment at UND! As much as I loved gamble, a new building is badly needed. Dumping money into that place is a waste. Not enough meeting areas or study space. Thank god for the SMIF room or I never would have studied on campus. That said, isn't the current plan to renovate gamble, rather than build a new school? I Know a new building was being floated while I was there about 5 years ago, but I kind of feel like that ship has sailed? Wind changes often in MN and ND. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 < walking past front yard > < flip something into front yard > http://blogs.und.edu/und-today/wp-content/uploads/sites/68/2018/01/UND-Campus-Master-Plan-30-Year-Vision.pdf < walking away > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said: < walking past front yard > < flip something into front yard > http://blogs.und.edu/und-today/wp-content/uploads/sites/68/2018/01/UND-Campus-Master-Plan-30-Year-Vision.pdf < walking away > Looks like the plan on tearing down Witmer and adding on to Hyslop. The Business school would be attached to Merrifield and Montgomery, not across University. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 7 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: The Business school would be attached to Merrifield and Montgomery, not across University. Montgomery is demolished. The new biz school in its place attached to the Library and Merrifield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 10 hours ago, Cratter said: Montgomery is demolished. The new biz school in its place attached to the Library and Merrifield. Actually they wouldn't demolish it. The idea is they would somehow incorporate some of the structure. Quote "We're going to try to integrate the 'bones' of Montgomery," Light said, "to capture the historical legacy of what Montgomery has meant on campus." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawkota Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 There does not appear to be a HPC Phase II in the 30 year plan. Oops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted January 26, 2018 Author Share Posted January 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, lawkota said: There does not appear to be a HPC Phase II in the 30 year plan. Oops. That had better not be a sign of things to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post iramurphy Posted January 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, lawkota said: There does not appear to be a HPC Phase II in the 30 year plan. Oops. I received an email from the Alumni Assn with an outline of the priority projects which included the HPC Phase 2. They included a Survey which asks us our opinion as to prioritize those 5 areas which also include things like faculty issues/support, the student experience, the environment (buildings) and one other I can't remember maybe reasearch. I listed HPC Phase II at the top of the list because of the importance for marketing and the student experience in addition the value of intercollegiate athletics to the University, community, region, state and alumni. Phase II needs to include locker rooms for all athletes who don't have locker rooms at the Englestad and weight rooms, training facilities not already available, meeting rooms, lounges, offices etc. for those teams not at Englestad. It needs the Sports Medicine research facility. I suggested the Alumni office take $5,000,000 from discretionary funds, ask Altru for an additional $5,000,000 and raise the rest. If Altru opposed the UND Sanford relationship then they need to step up and replace what UND would have gotten from Sanford. Otherwise, they need to work out a joint agreement with UND and Sanford to support this facility, sports medicine and UND athletics. One of the Mayo Clinic guys who chaired their sports med department was interested in reviewing their potential participation in conjunction with their present Altru agreement. I passed that information to Faison and he was going to meet with them but it didn't get done. I believe Phase II is in the UND plan and a priority but I doubt UND plans to ask for State Funds. I believe they should because of the research facility that was supposed to be included in the project. ( Include anything involving concussions and there are grant dollars out there). With Biogenetics and Stem cell research/therapy already here, UND could be one of the nation's leaders in this research if they are willing to invest the time, energy, and resources. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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