Cratter Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 34 minutes ago, Fetch said: I hope the law enforcement is not about to do a modern day Custer move . Pretty scary stuff when you have protestor saying they are ready to die for the cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Mark Ruffalo spreading lies on CNN at the moment. Disgusting how Jake Tapper doesn't bring up the facts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 52 minutes ago, Fetch said: I hope the law enforcement is not about to do a modern day Custer move You mean I bought all this popcorn for nothin'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 44 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: Mark Ruffalo spreading lies on CNN at the moment. Disgusting how Jake Tapper doesn't bring up the facts. Heard on 1310 am this morning arrests were wanted for "terrorizing/vandalizing" (or something) journalists there by the "protestors", I forgot what they all did but it included surrounding the vehicle the reporters escaped to and locked themselves in while protestors starting to block and vandalize it. They called 911 and luckily the police came before it escalated further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Where were these protesters when the pipeline broke on the Yellowstone River last year? Then again if there was oil on Standing Rock they'd welcome all the pipelines you could put in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Who drinks tap water anyway? Stuff will kill ya without the oil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 They have a road block on Highway 1804. Isn't that, by definition, felonious restraint? ND Century Code definition: http://www.legis.nd.gov/cencode/t12-1c18.pdf Quote 12.1-18-02. Felonious restraint. A person is guilty of a class C felony, if he: ... 2. Knowingly restrains another under terrorizing circumstances or under circumstances exposing him to risk of serious bodily injury; or ... But what does "restrains" mean (same reference): Quote 12.1-18-04. Definitions. In this chapter: 2. "Restrain" means to restrict the movement of a person unlawfully and without consent so as to interfere substantially with his liberty by removing him from his place of residence or business, ... Restraint is "without consent" if it is accomplished by: a. force, intimidation, or deception; ... That road block is a Class C Felony. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 2 hours ago, fight on sioux said: That's a pretty awful comment... Not needed either. Sorry Rev. Jesse Jackson............... Hope you're as offended by all the illegal BS that's taking place day after day after day by all these folks who finally decided to stand up for a "cause". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 45 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: They have a road block on Highway 1804. Isn't that, by definition, felonious restraint? ND Century Code definition: http://www.legis.nd.gov/cencode/t12-1c18.pdf But what does "restrains" mean (same reference): That road block is a Class C Felony. It's really unbelievable. And now the news is reporting law enforcement is using tasers and pepper spray. Well no Shiite, Sherlock. When you set up a blockade in the middle of a road and refuse to move, this is what happens. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 On 9/10/2016 at 11:22 AM, SiouxVolley said: Actually agree with you for once. Lack of a pipeline will result in oil trains keeping the tracks full, with oil trains still running through cities like Minneapolis and Seattle resulting in a much more dangerous condition. But stopping the pipeline would help Warren Buffets make hundreds of millions more, like what happened with Keystone. An existing major nat gas pipeline parallels the proposed route of the Dakota Access Pipeline. The earth has been disturbed before with no protest. If it was sacred ground, there is already a pipeline there. The Missouri River is a lake where the Dakota Access Pipeline crosses it. If a leak happens, it would very slowly diffuse into Lake Oahe, unlike a flowing river. Standing Rock didn't respond to many inquiries before when the pipeline plans were drawn up and didn't show up for hearings to lodge complaints. But when construction happens, their tribal leadership becomes all inflamed. The Fort Berthold reservation is where a lot of the oil comes from. Lack of a pipeline will force down the value of Bakken oil, hurting the Mandan, Arikara, and Hidatsa people, which have already blessed fracking. The idea that the pipeline destroyed sacred burial grounds has not been validated by any respected archeologist, but has been put further by anti-oil forces to show a basis that the Sioux are exploited. The land in question is private, not Indian owned. The Green Party wants to end oil based fuel and go to solar or wind. Much of the protesters and their money are behind this, as the Green Party's candidate Jill Stein has made her own spray painting visits. The protests wouldn't be so hypocritical if they were powered by Tesla vehicles rather than gas guzzling pickup trucks. From what Ive been told the NA were offered 10 millions but wanted 20. I guess its only sacred when you arent getting paid what you want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 The protesters know that if any of them get hurt by law enforcement, the media takes their side and they have a big win. Been amazed on Facebook at the comments about how we have to let's the Indians win because they have been treated so unfairly over the years. It's like whatever things the protesters do that's illegal, it's justified by past wrongdoing. That's the opposite of what Martin Luther King taught. But Jesse Jackson hasn't followed King at all, just the almighty dollar. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 http://m.bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-regional/north-camp-cleared/article_06a978e2-1485-5450-b3fe-13ce519fd15f.html Authorities have cleared the camp set up on private land and pushed the protesters back to the main camp on federal land. Sounds like a group of them were able to loop around and set some construction equipment on fire. Some arrests but no major injuries reported. All in all its looking like a pretty successful day for rule of law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 When is Al Sharpton coming? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Also, can't remember where, but saw in a previous report Standing Rock is estimating loss of casino revenue at $1 million. This protest is going to cause much more long term damage to Standing Rock than the pipeline would have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Also, can't remember where, but saw in a previous report Standing Rock is estimating loss of casino revenue at $1 million. This protest is going to cause much more long term damage to Standing Rock than the pipeline would have. Is Devils Lake their casino? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Peaceful protest. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Just now, bison73 said: Is Devils Lake their casino? Prairie Knights south of Mandan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Shooting reported near protest site. Law enforcement not involved. Protesters turning on each other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Siouxphan27 said: And now the news is reporting law enforcement is using tasers and pepper spray. No flash-bangs? No fire hoses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 36 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Shooting reported near protest site. Law enforcement not involved. Protesters turning on each other? There would be some sort of poetic justice in that. "Peaceful Protesters Shoot Each Other Up" ... film at 11 ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Sounds like chicago where is Jackson on that no money to be made there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 http://m.bismarcktribune.com/news/local/mandan/police-report-multiple-instances-of-shots-fired/article_e6819cc3-1f2d-5d5f-9b63-92dcf2c2492b.html One shooting was a random citizen firing at protesters, apparently after being ran off the road by them. He hit a peaceful water protector, who also had a gun, in the hand. Second shooting was peaceful water protector firing on police. She fired 3 shots, but fortunately missed on all 3. Incredible restraint by law enforcement not to fire back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 20 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: One shooting was a random citizen firing at protesters, apparently after being ran off the road by them. That's where my pointing out of the ongoing Class C felony was going. If I'm driving down a highway and get stopped by an illegal road block with masked people do I have legitimate fear of great bodily harm or death? (The lawyers out there see the "key words and tricky phrases" I just invoked.) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 UNDBIZ article did mention there was heated debate whether to remain "peaceful" among the protestors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Molotov-cocktail and shooting at police. Think Democracy Now will cover that story?...attempted murder for F sakes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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