sioux rube Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 The obsession on both sides has reached a new level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmog Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 13 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Better than your "eye test". A resume is a complete body of work. USD's is better than NDSU's to date. There are different levels of "bad teams". Thinking that Bowling Green is near the same level as Missouri State (both team's 3rd best win) is ridiculous. UND blew out Missouri State. Hell, UND would be 4-2 with NDSU's schedule and they are in the bottom half of USD's SOS. I don't agree. Back to my original point. Wins over two current top ten FCS teams on the road trumps anything USD has done. Stop with the Sagarin nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux94 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, Gothmog said: I don't agree. Back to my original point. Wins over two current top ten FCS teams on the road trumps anything USD has done. Stop with the Sagarin nonsense. I haven't read all of the comments on here so maybe somebody already mentioned it. How about the fact that EWU had a new staff and many new players at the beginning of the year, they only scored 10 points on Texas Tech. I thought they would score 30 on them and probably normally would have, but it took them a couple of games to figure things out with a new offensive coordinator etc.. You guys probably would have still won but I think the game would be a little closer if you were playing this weekend than it was the 2nd week of the season. Now since you are an NDSU troll I know you won't even say there is at all a hint of truth in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 15 minutes ago, Gothmog said: I don't agree. Back to my original point. Wins over two current top ten FCS teams on the road trumps anything USD has done. Stop with the Sagarin nonsense. Yes, because the polls your citing have shown to be really accurate and very flexible to move off their initial rankings. The one that is typically the most accurate, AGS, has WIU ahead of EWU (actually WIU, EWU, YSU at 7,8,9). It's also convenient how you keep including best two wins instead of three, which allows you to exclude USD's FBS win. Understandable since that would require you to add in NDSU's third best win, which is Missouri State and that doesn't even come close to helping your case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmog Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 19 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Yes, because the polls your citing have shown to be really accurate and very flexible to move off their initial rankings. The one that is typically the most accurate, AGS, has WIU ahead of EWU (actually WIU, EWU, YSU at 7,8,9). It's also convenient how you keep including best two wins instead of three, which allows you to exclude USD's FBS win. Understandable since that would require you to add in NDSU's third best win, which is Missouri State and that doesn't even come close to helping your case. OK, let's restate that: NDSU's 2 best wins trump USD's three best wins. Wins can not be summed in that way. Two, or even one, quality win can easily trump 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Gothmog said: OK, let's restate that: NDSU's 2 best wins trump USD's three best wins. Wins can not be summed in that way. Two, or even one, quality win can easily trump 3. In the eyes of the committee it's actually all about quality losses 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, Gothmog said: OK, let's restate that: NDSU's 2 best wins trump USD's three best wins. Wins can not be summed in that way. Two, or even one, quality win can easily trump 3. Please quit digging a hole. The hole is deep enough, jump in and we will gladly kick dirt in the hole to cover up your sorry $$$$. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 6 hours ago, moser53 said: Don't underestimate Doug Bergum. If NDSU being like an Oklahoma State is his dream-goal in his lifetime what will we see at SU that will give clues. 10 thousand more students 1 billion endowment. Underestimate the will in Fargo not me. Burgum is raking in the money with the tax breaks at the expense of the Fargo homeowners, but if he thinks his downtown metropolis of high rise buildings are going to carry NDSU into FBS status (namely a huge dome, or stadium) he is up for a ride awakining. I think NDSU will lean on Carson Wentz than Doug Burgum for money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Gothmog said: OK, let's restate that: NDSU's 2 best wins trump USD's three best wins. Wins can not be summed in that way. Two, or even one, quality win can easily trump 3. No they don't and you have zero objective rankings to show NDSU having a better resume. Two or one isn't a resume, they are data points on a body of work. But it's OK, NDSU's resume has already started to get better now that they are done playing teams in the bottom 20% of Division 1 in 4 of their first 5 games. Maybe they will even leapfrog USD in individual Sagarin rankings for the season so next time you bring it up, you can use it as a winning argument instead of a losing one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SiouxBoys Posted October 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 16, 2017 2 hours ago, Gothmog said: OK, let's restate that: NDSU's 2 best wins trump USD's three best wins. Wins can not be summed in that way. Two, or even one, quality win can easily trump 3. For the rest of your time here on this board, you must refer to jdub27 as daddy. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gothmog Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 On 10/16/2017 at 3:51 PM, SiouxBoys said: For the rest of your time here on this board, you must refer to jdub27 as daddy. Umm, no. His argument is a logical fallacy. It simply does not that follow that team A is better than team B (or "has a better resume") simply because team A has played better teams at the midpoint of the season, especially if both teams at undefeated. That's the point and he lost that point. In the end all he could do was restate Sagarin ratings to support his losing argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 On 10/21/2017 at 5:42 PM, Gothmog said: Umm, no. His argument is a logical fallacy. It simply does not that follow that team A is better than team B (or "has a better resume") simply because team A has played better teams at the midpoint of the season, especially if both teams at undefeated. That's the point and he lost that point. In the end all he could do was restate Sagarin ratings to support his losing argument. Being a better team is not the same as having a better resume. Not sure what's so hard to understand about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gundy1124 Posted October 28, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 28, 2017 Montana getting their tits lit by Weber St. This is why I was so pissed about our incompetence in our game against the Griz. They are a pretty average team, we made them look good. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 4 minutes ago, gundy1124 said: Montana getting their tits lit by Weber St. This is why I was so pissed about our incompetence in our game against the Griz. They are a pretty average team, we made them look good. And that one was almost entirely on the coaching staff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxBoys Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 How is Chris Klieman upset about that targeting call on Cox? Completely helmet to helmet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux94 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 1 hour ago, gundy1124 said: Montana getting their tits lit by Weber St. This is why I was so pissed about our incompetence in our game against the Griz. They are a pretty average team, we made them look good. I had posted that I was laughing how Montana fans were puffing their chest after their win against us....saying it was the best their defense has looked etc., and they sure thought they were something. I said I'm glad they had a false sense of greatness and was looking forward to watching them lose. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowHand Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 45 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said: How is Chris Klieman upset about that targeting call on Cox? Completely helmet to helmet. Receiver ducked his head a little bit. No launch, no intent to harm. By definition of the rule its targeting, but the rule needs some tweaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longtime fan Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 1 hour ago, gundy1124 said: Montana getting their tits lit by Weber St. This is why I was so pissed about our incompetence in our game against the Griz. They are a pretty average team, we made them look good. How about sac st at home!? They hadn't won a road game in three years and had a fresh QB . Embarrassing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxBoys Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 13 minutes ago, SlowHand said: Receiver ducked his head a little bit. No launch, no intent to harm. By definition of the rule its targeting, but the rule needs some tweaking. So by rule they got the call 100% correct. Thanks for the clarification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowHand Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Just now, SiouxBoys said: So by rule they got the call 100% correct. Thanks for the clarification. Yes. They made the correct call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 How crazy is the Big Sky? Obviously UND blew up this season. But who had Cal Poly sucking so bad? I had them Top 3 going I to this year along with UND and EWU. As of now, NAU, SUU, and Weber are tops in the league........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share Posted October 29, 2017 43 minutes ago, bincitysioux said: How crazy is the Big Sky? Obviously UND blew up this season. But who had Cal Poly sucking so bad? I had them Top 3 going I to this year along with UND and EWU. As of now, NAU, SUU, and Weber are tops in the league........ No Prothro though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: No Prothro though I see what you did there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Jacks muff a punt up 13, are you f-ing kidding me?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, gundy1124 said: Jacks muff a punt up 13, are you f-ing kidding me?? Watching their game. I’ve seen the jacks use this thing called creativity with their offense. Kinda strange to see. It seems to be working. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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