Non-UND FCS Thread

[UNDBIZ]

2 minutes ago, bison73 said:

Please provide a list to JJ of who will schedule us. You obviously know more than he does.

UND would have.

[JohnboyND7]

5 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

UND would have.

They'll also take a modest check in the mail

[geaux_sioux]

1 minute ago, JohnboyND7 said:

They'll also take a modest check in the mail

Huge savings on travel for NDSU as well

[jdub27]

41 minutes ago, bison73 said:

Please provide a list to JJ of who will schedule us. You obviously know more than he does.

Matt Larsen has never said he wouldnt do a home and home. He said Home and Homes impacts out flexibility which is true. Some how you have extrapolated that statement to mean we wont.

Im not worked up over anything. Actually Im amused that some folks have so much heartburn over our scheduling?????.  I think we all know what the issue with some of you is. Its really not about our scheduling at all.

I'll type it up and get it over to him, I can tell how busy he is doing his show over on the Bison Propaganda Network to call schools up and say "Hey, how would you like to host NDSU and have us bring our 5,000 10,000 25,000+ traveling fan base to your stadium? All you need to do is play a game up in Fargo."

Matt Larsen has said they need 6 home games every year and would like an FBS every year (though that has obviously not worked out). If he were to get what he wants, then there is absolutely zero need for extrapolating to realize you can't have your 2 OOC home games (plus 4 conference home games to reach 6 total) and an FBS game and still have room to honor away games for home/home contracts, it's just simple math. The caveat would be if they did it in on of the few 12 game seasons upcoming like they are doing with Delaware in 2018/2019, though there is no FBS game, instead they are playing Butler at Target Field. So again, I believe that they are struggling to get an FBS opponent they want or makes it worth while and that teams are asking for a good chunk of change to come up to the Fargodome, however I'm not buying they are having a hard time with home/home games, meaning they could find games, they just aren't under the terms they want.

[UNDColorado]

Is lakes bison's real name Sam Hum by chance?

[NDSU grad]

7 minutes ago, UNDColorado said:

Is lakes bison's real name Sam Hum by chance?

Yes. Sam Humann I think. 

[darell1976]

19 minutes ago, UNDColorado said:

Is lakes bison's real name Sam Hum by chance?

What’s he spouting about now? Big 12, SEC, Big 10 admittance? Or is he coming up with lies and other crap about UND on another message board.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

48 minutes ago, UNDColorado said:

Is lakes bison's real name Sam Hum by chance?

 

http://egriz.com/grizboard/viewtopic.php?t=60720&start=75

Posted by gobison

Lakes, it's pretty easy to look up who owns a domain name.
bisonation.com is owned by you, LakesBison aka Sam Humann.
Please, stop being a tool on every college message board and making NDSU fans everywhere look bad.

 

http://www.inforum.com/content/fargo-misdemeanors-1

under Theft

Samuel Paul Humann, 3110 Westgate Drive, $250 costs, deferred imposition for two years.

 

[UNDColorado]

53 minutes ago, darell1976 said:

What’s he spouting about now? Big 12, SEC, Big 10 admittance? Or is he coming up with lies and other crap about UND on another message board.

That guy loves UND and he doesn't even know it. He's on the FCS facebook page talking crap about our team, I mean backups.

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

Interesting post on Bisonville.

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?38353-Playoff-Matchup-2017/page10

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how are these ASSHOLES allowed to post this crap, yet im banned? freakin joke.

Can I please come back? Ill put a disclaimer in sig that bisonville isn't responsible for my comments. FBS or BUST enough with this small timey stuff, "Bring on the Competition" is our motto right?

[darell1976]

7 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said:

Interesting post on Bisonville.

http://www.bisonville.com/forum/showthread.php?38353-Playoff-Matchup-2017/page10

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how are these ASSHOLES allowed to post this crap, yet im banned? freakin joke.

Can I please come back? Ill put a disclaimer in sig that bisonville isn't responsible for my comments. FBS or BUST enough with this small timey stuff, "Bring on the Competition" is our motto right?

So he's banned as Lakes, but yet they let him post his usual crap as El Chapo. That place is a nuclear waste dump and made AGS their second dump site. 

[TX Bison]

2 hours ago, jdub27 said:

I'll type it up and get it over to him, I can tell how busy he is doing his show over on the Bison Propaganda Network to call schools up and say "Hey, how would you like to host NDSU and have us bring our 5,000 10,000 25,000+ traveling fan base to your stadium? All you need to do is play a game up in Fargo."

Matt Larsen has said they need 6 home games every year and would like an FBS every year (though that has obviously not worked out). If he were to get what he wants, then there is absolutely zero need for extrapolating to realize you can't have your 2 OOC home games (plus 4 conference home games to reach 6 total) and an FBS game and still have room to honor away games for home/home contracts, it's just simple math. The caveat would be if they did it in on of the few 12 game seasons upcoming like they are doing with Delaware in 2018/2019, though there is no FBS game, instead they are playing Butler at Target Field. So again, I believe that they are struggling to get an FBS opponent they want or makes it worth while and that teams are asking for a good chunk of change to come up to the Fargodome, however I'm not buying they are having a hard time with home/home games, meaning they could find games, they just aren't under the terms they want.

Who should dictate the terms of home/home contracts?  dub27?  darell1976?  My sister's kids?  That is one of the most ignorant things I've read.  I pose some questions:

1.  Why do you care who NDSU plays OOC?  

2.  What was your complaint last when year when we beat Charleston S and EWU (i intentionally omitted Iowa since you clowns don't think road wins over ranked FBS opponents matter)?  "Oh, you should have played them on the road!!!  GRRRRRR!!!"

3. Should Larsen and staff give up all bargaining power so you can manufacture something else to whine about?

Your complaints are confusing.

[TX Bison]

3 hours ago, UNDBIZ said:

UND would have.

And in this hypothetical argument, I'll take wins over your silly sense of scheduling transparency.  You kids have a serious "little brother" issue.  Go play the teams you play, win and maybe someday we'll meet in the playoffs.  

[bison73]

57 minutes ago, darell1976 said:

So he's banned as Lakes, but yet they let him post his usual crap as El Chapo. That place is a nuclear waste dump and made AGS their second dump site. 

Hes been banned numerous time but keeps coming back under different aliases. They let him stay under elchapo but every post is moderated for content.

[geaux_sioux]

7 minutes ago, TX Bison said:

And in this hypothetical argument, I'll take wins over your silly sense of scheduling transparency.  You kids have a serious "little brother" issue.  Go play the teams you play, win and maybe someday we'll meet in the playoffs.  

Little brother is funny. NDSU has thee most insecure fan base I’ve ever seen. Must be old wounds from being the little AC or something.

[jdub27]

21 minutes ago, TX Bison said:

Who should dictate the terms of home/home contracts?  dub27?  darell1976?  My sister's kids?  That is one of the most ignorant things I've read.  I pose some questions:

1.  Why do you care who NDSU plays OOC?  

2.  What was your complaint last when year when we beat Charleston S and EWU (i intentionally omitted Iowa since you clowns don't think road wins over ranked FBS opponents matter)?  "Oh, you should have played them on the road!!!  GRRRRRR!!!"

3. Should Larsen and staff give up all bargaining power so you can manufacture something else to whine about?

The terms of a home and home are "you play at my place and I'll play at yours", it really is that simple and there are not really any other terms to dictate. I feel pretty confident your sister's kids could probably handle it. The problem is because of NDSU's preferred scheduling philosophy, they don't want to/are unable to do they part where they play at someone else's place. 

1. I don't care, but NDSU fans are being dishonest when they say "no one will play us" when it's more accurate that "no one will place us under the self-imposed conditions we want to base our schedule on". Be honest about it, the want/need of 6 home games and an FBS game has been a huge hurdle and prevented more home/home being scheduled and is a big part of the reason "no one will play us".

2. Not sure what the relevance of that is other than they did go to EWU this year, fulfilling the back-end of the home/home, which is why they either weren't going to have an FBS game or 6 home games. NDSU obviously had given up trying to get an FBS game for this season when they signed the EWU contract in 2014 because the 6 home games take precedent. 

3. Again, I don't care what they do but again, complaining that "no one will play us" is clearly disingenuous. Why does "manufactured" discussion on a non-rivals message board bother you so much?

 

11 minutes ago, TX Bison said:

And in this hypothetical argument, I'll take wins over your silly sense of scheduling transparency.  You kids have a serious "little brother" issue.  Go play the teams you play, win and maybe someday we'll meet in the playoffs.  

An NDSU fan asked for a team, he gave one. NDSU was the one who refused to sign a home/home. Why the need to get so worked up over that?

[UNDColorado]

Lakes is here...just received a personal message from him. Will report back momentarily.

Damn, the headline was Lakes Bison, not from him...got all excited.

[TX Bison]

2 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

The terms of a home and home are play at my place and I play at yours, it really is that simple and there are not really any other terms to dictate unless one team is feeling generous and offers to cover a little bit of travel expenses, though it rarely happens. The problem is because of NDSU's preferred scheduling philosophy, they don't want to/are unable to do they part where they play at someone else's places. 

1. I don't care, but NDSU fans are being dishonest when they say "no one will play us" when it's more accurate that "no one will place us under the self-imposed conditions we want to base our schedule on". Be honest about it, the want/need of 6 home games and an FBS game has been a huge hurdle and prevented more home/home being scheduled and is a big part of the reason "no one will play us".

2. Not sure what the relevance of that is other than they did go to EWU this year, fulfilling the back-end of the home/home, which is why they either weren't going to have an FBS game or 6 home games. NDSU obviously had given up trying to get an FBS game for this season when they signed the EWU contract in 2014 because the 6 home games take precedent. 

3. Again, I don't care what they do but again, complaining that "no one will play us" is clearly disingenuous. Why does "manufactured" discussion on a non-rivals message board bother you so much?

 

An NDSU fan asked a team, he gave you one. Why the need to get so worked up over that?

Im not worked up.  We're 5-0 and going to play the Fighting Pelini's.  That's exciting.

 

And yes, filling a schedule is difficult when we want it done on our terms.  I'll refer you to the attendance numbers of games in Fargo.  We make money when we host games.  

 

Best of luck in Bozeman and the rest of the season.  Seriously.  Would love to see you guys win out and hop the train to Fargo for a playoff game this year.

[TX Bison]

12 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Little brother is funny. NDSU has thee most insecure fan base I’ve ever seen. Must be old wounds from being the little AC or something.

Oh come on.  We scrape the manure from our boots almost every time we go in the house.

[Bison06]

As far as message board conversations go, this is an interesting one, but I have a question.

Are people questioning NDSU's scheduling methods for the sake of calling out inconsistencies in the fan-base's language of "no one will play us" or are people somehow suggesting that NDSU's strength of schedule hasn't been up to par. If it's the first, then I don't know the details that go one behind the scenes of who we've tried to schedule or who we haven't. But if it's the second one then I would suggest everyone take a huge step back and look at NDSU's schedule or the past 7 years and take an objective view of the overall difficulty of their schedule. 

There wasn't one year that NDSU "avoided" someone on the way to their championship so I hope that isn't what is being suggested by questioning NDSU's scheduling methods. 

[Gothmog]

25 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

As far as message board conversations go, this is an interesting one, but I have a question.

Are people questioning NDSU's scheduling methods for the sake of calling out inconsistencies in the fan-base's language of "no one will play us" or are people somehow suggesting that NDSU's strength of schedule hasn't been up to par. If it's the first, then I don't know the details that go one behind the scenes of who we've tried to schedule or who we haven't. But if it's the second one then I would suggest everyone take a huge step back and look at NDSU's schedule or the past 7 years and take an objective view of the overall difficulty of their schedule. 

There wasn't one year that NDSU "avoided" someone on the way to their championship so I hope that isn't what is being suggested by questioning NDSU's scheduling methods. 

What's being suggested is that NDSU should have scheduled UND to a home and home deal years ago instead of acting in what it considered to be its own best interest.

 

[TX Bison]

20 minutes ago, Gothmog said:

What's being suggested is that NDSU should have scheduled UND to a home and home deal years ago instead of acting in what it considered to be its own best interest.

 

Why on earth would we drag our fans to GF if we don't get anything in return?  (Except 400 rushing yards and reps for the 2's and 3's.)

I'll keep asking the question - in who's interest should NDSU act?  

[BarnWinterSportsEngelstad]

54 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

As far as message board conversations go, this is an interesting one, but I have a question.

Are people questioning NDSU's scheduling methods for the sake of calling out inconsistencies in the fan-base's language of "no one will play us" or are people somehow suggesting that NDSU's strength of schedule hasn't been up to par. If it's the first, then I don't know the details that go one behind the scenes of who we've tried to schedule or who we haven't. But if it's the second one then I would suggest everyone take a huge step back and look at NDSU's schedule or the past 7 years and take an objective view of the overall difficulty of their schedule. 

There wasn't one year that NDSU "avoided" someone on the way to their championship so I hope that isn't what is being suggested by questioning NDSU's scheduling methods. 

There was talk about cup cakes and TX saying that their scheduling is a challenge. It's a challenge because you try screw over the opponant in the negotiation, I understad why your AD is doing that, but to come hear and complain about it being a challange to schedule is where the stir begins. Again it's self inflicting. 

We're not really in a position good position this season, but we'll be back. Once we're in the Valley, we'll play a conference schedule and this will be remote, with UND anyway. We will have days like this on other topics, where a barrel of words will be typed in an hour. Looking forward to that!

[geaux_sioux]

1 hour ago, Bison06 said:

As far as message board conversations go, this is an interesting one, but I have a question.

Are people questioning NDSU's scheduling methods for the sake of calling out inconsistencies in the fan-base's language of "no one will play us" or are people somehow suggesting that NDSU's strength of schedule hasn't been up to par. If it's the first, then I don't know the details that go one behind the scenes of who we've tried to schedule or who we haven't. But if it's the second one then I would suggest everyone take a huge step back and look at NDSU's schedule or the past 7 years and take an objective view of the overall difficulty of their schedule. 

There wasn't one year that NDSU "avoided" someone on the way to their championship so I hope that isn't what is being suggested by questioning NDSU's scheduling methods. 

Some are complaining about NDSU because it’s what they do. I wish we would have 6 home games a year personally. Don’t hear anyone complaining that the hockey team never returns the trip to Manitoba.

[TX Bison]

4 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Some are complaining about NDSU because it’s what they do. I wish we would have 6 home games a year personally. Don’t hear anyone complaining that the hockey team never returns the trip to Manitoba.

You're the Voice of Reason my friend.